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Here we determine which articles are featured on the Main Page as Destination of the month (DotM), Off the Beaten Path (OtBP) and Featured travel topics (FTT).


You can nominate any article you would like to see featured. Any destination, region, itinerary or event that passes the "What is an article?" test is eligible for nomination.

However, before nominating, please check that the article follows these basic guidelines:

  • The nominated article should have an article status of guide or star. This includes having at least one good picture, and listings/headers/etc. that match our manual of style.
  • The nominated article must not have been featured since Wikivoyage became a WMF project in 2013.
  • If the article has been nominated previously but failed, any objections should be addressed before nominating it again.
    • See Slush pile to check.
    • If you think a once-slushed destination is now ready to go, list it as new, but with a pointer to the slush pile entry.
  • The article should be good enough to feature within 12 months; as is, or with edits that can be done before the intended time slot.

Well-known and/or popular destinations should be nominated as Destination of the Month, while more obscure destinations should be nominated for Off the Beaten Path. Featured Travel Topic includes travel topics, phrasebooks, itineraries, and other articles not part of the geographic hierarchy, as well as airports (as they are not usually destinations in their own right). Where applicable, you should propose a good time to visit the destination as a month to be featured.

The basic format of a nomination is as follows:

| place=Destination
| blurb='''[[Destination]]''' is a place of contrasts, and as such it...
| status=Guide
| time=March-June
| nominatedBy=~~~~
| comment=Great article and it's just luvvly-jubbly in the springtime.
| DotMImage=[[File:Destinationimage.jpg|thumb|300px]]

Add a nomination to the end of the appropriate section.


You can comment on any nomination based on timeliness and adherence to the criteria above, just add a bullet point (*) and your signed opinion.

Great article and it's just luvvly-jubbly in the springtime. TravelNut 25:25, 31 Feb 2525 (UTC)
* Looks nice, but shouldn't the Do section contain more than just quilting contests? ~~~~

Please note that the following are not considered valid reasons to oppose a nomination:

  • "I don't like it." All objections have to be based on the guidelines above: poor formatting, missing information, etc. Personal opinions, dislikes, etc. do not count.
  • "Wrong time of year." Articles are supported or opposed based on their content. Timing can be worked out later.
  • "Wrong type of place." Articles are supported or opposed based on their content. Whether it's DotM or OtBP can be worked out later.


If an article gets several comments in favor and none against for a week or so, it's eligible to be placed in an appropriate time-slot in the Upcoming queue. If the objections are relatively minor and are being worked on, add them to the Upcoming queue tentatively (add a question mark "?" after the article). Feel free to move the queue around or swap articles if it makes sense. If a nomination clearly does not make the grade and if the objections are not easily fixable, they go into the Slush pile.

Once a nomination has been scheduled, an appropriate banner image and text blurb must be selected. Go to Wikivoyage:Destination of the month candidates/Banners to start that discussion.


Discussions for previously selected destinations are kept in the Archive.



The following queue should contain about the next few months' worth of upcoming destinations. Note that new DotMs are rotated in on the 1st of each month, OtBPs on the 11th and travel topics on the 21st.

Month DotM OtBP FTT
July 2022 Queensland – pending stronger consensus to support Farnborough New Golden Route
August 2022 Newfoundland and Labrador Deventer – pending fixes and stronger consensus to support Istanbul to Izmir
September 2022 Dresden – pending fixes and stronger consensus to support Budderoo National Park – pending stronger consensus to support Around the World in Eighty Days – pending stronger consensus to support
October 2022 Arches National Park – pending fixes and stronger consensus to support Savaii – pending fixes and stronger consensus to support Land Art Trail on Mount Učka – pending fixes and stronger consensus to support
November 2022 Singapore/Orchard – pending fixes and stronger consensus to support Cooch Behar – pending fixes and stronger consensus to support Georgian cuisine
December 2022 Rome/Vatican – pending fixes and stronger consensus to support Gävle – pending fixes and stronger consensus to support Indira Gandhi International Airport – pending fixes (?)
January 2023 Bangkok/Yaowarat and Phahurat – pending fixes and stronger consensus to support Punta Arenas – pending fixes and stronger consensus to support Portuguese phrasebook – pending fixes and stronger consensus to support
February 2023 Milford Sound – pending fixes and stronger consensus to support Jimbaran – pending fixes and stronger consensus to support Driving in South Africa – pending fixes and stronger consensus to support

Try to avoid two overlapping or back-to-back features from the same country, as well as long streaks of features from the same continent.

The schedule is not cast in stone. However, any change made to the schedule should have a compelling reason behind it, and should be effected as far in advance as possible of the article's scheduled term on the Main Page. In particular, unless absolutely necessary, we discourage nominee articles from being slushed or rescheduled after banners have been made for them, which usually happens 2-3 months before being featured.

Whenever an article becomes a current feature, it should be removed from the list, the discussion archived, and (when changing out Featured Travel Topics) a new month added to the end of the queue.

Next changes[edit]

Decisions regarding which images to use as the banners are made at Wikivoyage:Destination of the month candidates/Banners.

The section below provides an opportunity to see what the upcoming featured articles will look like on the Main Page using the banners that are currently most popular on the above page.


On the date of the scheduled change, the DotM, OtBP, or FTT should be changed as close to midnight UTC as possible. When the featured page is changed, please follow the following procedures to do so and archive content to the appropriate pages. At each stage, please double-check that you are correctly moving content.

  1. Update the featured articles on the main page by replacing the current 'banner' template section with those of the appropriate banner for the new DotM/OtBP/FTT found in the Next change section above.
  2. Update the Photo credits page with the banner's original image, title and attribution.
  3. Add the former featured article to the appropriate archive page: Previous Destinations of the month, Previously Off the beaten path, or Previous Featured travel topics.
  4. Remove Template:Featurenomination from newly featured article.
  5. For the former featured article, add the appropriate parameter to the pagebanner template (directly after the image filename) to label the page as having been featured previously.
    • For former DotMs, add: |dotm=yes
    • For former OtBPs, add: |otbp=yes
    • For former FTTs, add: |ftt=yes
  6. Archive the newly featured article's nomination. Simply cut-and-paste the nomination section of the newly featured article from this page to Wikivoyage:Destination of the month candidates/Archive.
  7. Update the Next change section above by adding the banner from the discussion page. View the table in the Schedule section above to determine what next month's change will be, then update the image and blurb in the "Next change" section with that found in the upcoming featured article's nomination.
  8. In the schedule, use <s> and </s> to strikethrough the newly featured article. Remove the row from the table if the newly featured article is the FTT.
  9. Archive the newly featured article's banner by cutting-and-pasting all banner suggestions and the associated discussion into Wikivoyage:Destination of the month candidates/Banners/Archive.

Nominations for Destination of the Month[edit]


Place: Vatican City
Blurb: The world's smallest country is the headquarters of the Roman Catholic Church, and has an impressive art collection. (should not exceed ~145 characters)
Article status: Guide (must be guide or above).
Time to feature: Should be avoided at summer. April includes Easter and good weather. Winter is a good time to avoid crowds.
Nominated by: Yvwv (talk) 01:39, 20 October 2021 (UTC)
Comment: Well-known destination which was slushed in 2017 but has improved a lot since then. One of few relevant destinations for Easter travel.[reply]

  • Close. Some formatting fixes needed, but that can be resolved later, and the translation tag? SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 01:41, 20 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support, pending checks on which listed establishments are still in business, as usual. I haven't been voting here for a while because I'm very ambivalent about travel, given its carbon footprint, and we're also still in a pandemic, but I recently reread and did some edits on this article, and I think it's good and covers a destination that will always attract visitors as long as there are human beings and things to see and do there. We have to hope that'll be a long time... Ikan Kekek (talk) 01:45, 20 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
On hold as Turin is scheduled for May. Can be considered for Christmas 2022 or Easter 2023, as we don't have many destinations with worldwide relevance for these holidays. /Yvwv (talk) 21:16, 2 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • I have some concern with its categorization (being placed as a "district" of Rome instead of treating it as an official country). Yes I know it's the smallest country in the world, but we don't give the same treatment to Monaco or San Marino which are also tiny countries in Europe. OhanaUnitedTalk page 03:29, 18 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
The thing is, would you ever visit the Vatican without visiting Rome? San Marino and Monaco are a bit different as they're not fully surrounded by another city on all four corners. OTOH, I was also first confused when I first saw the categorisation too, and I have a feeling most of our readers will too. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 03:35, 18 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Any other way of treating the Vatican would be more confusing. Regardless of the political arrangement, it's a neighborhood in Rome, period. Ikan Kekek (talk) 03:38, 18 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I remain unconvinced. Going by geography hierarchy, it's country -> region -> city -> district. Vatican is small enough that it doesn't need region, city or district. But putting it as a district of Rome (and not even giving it a city status) seems like a large deviation from the hiearchy. I'm marking it as not yet OhanaUnitedTalk page 20:49, 18 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Have you ever visited the Vatican? It is not its own city. Listen, if tomorrow, my block in Manhattan were declared an independent state, would it suddenly no longer be part of New York City? Ikan Kekek (talk) 22:28, 18 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I have not visited Vatican. Vatican is and will remain an independent state. Your block in Manhattan will not. So please don't apply strawman argument here. OhanaUnitedTalk page 19:59, 24 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
It's not a straw man. The Vatican was the small part of Rome that the Pope was allowed to maintain authority over in a concession by newly unified Italy that they made in order to achieve the withdrawal of French troops from Rome. It's hugely important, but it's simply part of Rome, and don't forget that the traveller comes first on this site, not whether a neighborhood in a particular city is officially treated as an independent country or not. By your standards, we should be using only official districts in our breadcrumb navigation and never including suburbs in any city article - not to mention, always using official names of places - but we do in instances in which that best serves the traveler. Go and visit the Vatican some time and see for yourself how it's just part of Rome. Ikan Kekek (talk) 21:27, 24 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I agree with Ikan in that I don't see how it's unreasonable, from a practical perspective, to classify the Vatican as part of Rome. --Comment by Selfie City (talk) (contributions) 23:21, 24 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Even have a look at San Marino. It's a country, but breadcrumbed under Italy. Why? Because you have no choice but to enter thru Italy. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 23:24, 24 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
The geographic hierarchy of Europe is always under discussion at Talk:Europe/Hierarchy. Southwestern Europe is a proposed continental section which would include the whole Italian peninsula. We can hopefully settle this issue before the article gets featured. /Yvwv (talk) 13:41, 25 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Nearly The article is about both the Vatican and the Borgo and Prati districts of Rome. Although this is stated at the top of the article, it maybe could be clearer and the blurb could also be clear that the article we are featuring is Vatican++. All the eat and sleep listings are actually in Rome. This is correctly a district of Rome. There are a few dead links in the article, and few of the listings have recently been updated. AlasdairW (talk) 18:00, 20 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment: Not a copyvio according to Earwig's. --SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 06:22, 23 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Scheduled provisionally for Christmas 2022. Easter could be considered, but might be too crowded for visitors who are not devout Catholics. /Yvwv (talk) 13:19, 25 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Las Vegas[edit]

Place: Las Vegas
Blurb: Sin City, the uncrowned capital of gambling, offers all kinds of entertainment year round. (should not exceed ~145 characters)
Article status: Guide (must be guide or above).
Time to feature: Events are always ongoing. Spring or fall have the best weather.
Nominated by: Yvwv (talk) 13:18, 1 November 2021 (UTC)
Comment: Slushed back in 2009, but has improved a lot. Can be featured anytime when we do not have too many North American articles.[reply]

Las Vegas (Nevada, USA), The Strip -- 2012 -- 6232.jpg
Comment: Sorry for the lack of geographic diversity, with a fourth DoTM candidate from the American Sun Belt. They all have international appeal to be featured, though. IMO we should run the best and most relevant US article in March 2022, and the next one for fall 2022. /Yvwv (talk) 16:27, 1 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Yvwv: we do have around three Australian destinations featured next year + this December, so don't think it's a huge problem. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 04:59, 3 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]


Place: Singapore/Orchard
Blurb: The main shopping street of Singapore is well known for having an extensive range of malls. (should not exceed ~145 characters)
Article status: Guide (must be guide or above).
Time to feature: June-August
Nominated by: SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 09:00, 25 November 2021 (UTC)
Comment: We haven't add many articles from Singapore being featured recently, and this looks a good one. It's been a long time since I've been to Orchard Road, but I cannot see anything missing from when I went there, although I have yet to look in detail.[reply]

Presenting... the real ION (8200217734).jpg
Scheduled provisionally in August. Any specific reason for the timing? In my opinion, we should designate January for destinations which celebrate Chinese/Lunar New Year, in particular places with favourable weather. Is Singapore too rainy during northern winter? /Yvwv (talk) 20:25, 25 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Possibly, but would also defer to The dog2 on that. My experience there was that it rains nearly most afternoons, but I went there during spring. I would prefer June or July for the w:Great Singapore Sale but around Lunar New Year is also fine with me. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 20:29, 25 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
As most of south, southeast and east Asia get the monsoon rains during northern summer, we tend use these slots for destinations in Europe and North America instead. Singapore seems to be among the exceptions, with more rain in November to January, so for geographic diversity it would make sense to schedule Singapore during northern summer. Is the GSS planned be held as usual in 2022, given the pandemic situation? /Yvwv (talk) 21:00, 25 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
The southeastern coast of Southeast Asia from southern Thailand all the way down to Singapore have their monsoon season in November-January, which is why the dive sites off the east coast of Peninsular Malaysia are closed in those months, because the sea just becomes too choppy. But what you said is true of places like Penang, Bangkok and Ho Chi Minh City, where the dry season is during the northern winter, and in the case of the latter two, also coincides with their winter, meaning the temperatures are not so hot.
As for festivals, while you can of course go to Orchard Road for Chinese New Year (and locals still go to Orchard Road for their Chinese New Year shopping), in reality Chinatown is where you should go if you really want to soak up the festive atmosphere. Orchard Road's street decorations are mainly Christmas-themed, and if I'm not wrong, they have in recent years also added a Menorah for Hanukkah at the request of the local rabbi. It is in Chinatown where you can see street decorations with the Chinese New Year theme, and likewise, for Deepavali (Diwali), you go to Little India for that, and for Hari Raya Puasa (Eid al-Fitr), you go to Geylang Serai for that.
So if you're talking about an appropriate time to visit Singapore if you specifically want to see Orchard Road at its best, I'd say it would be December, when all the Christmas decorations are up. It is during the monsoon, but all the major shopping malls are linked underground, so it is quite easy to find shelter whenever it rains. And in any case, the rains tend to be brief, though intense, so you can always wait inside one of the shopping centres for the rain to stop before heading out. The dog2 (talk) 02:02, 26 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Almost I was last in Singapore in 2005, so I can't say if it is up-to-date, but it looks good. Few of the listings have recent dates, and need to be checked, particularly the eat listings. I have checked the budget and mid-range hotels, and found 3 closed (2 temporarily). AlasdairW (talk) 23:32, 25 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Very close. Needs a more inspiring intro. /Yvwv (talk) 19:28, 6 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Scheduled provisionally again for November 2022, as suggested under #Newfoundland and Labrador. /Yvwv (talk) 14:43, 18 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Bangkok/Yaowarat and Phahurat[edit]

Place: Bangkok/Yaowarat and Phahurat
Blurb: The multicultural district and Chinatown in the capital of the largest overseas Chinese community becomes particularly lively for the Chinese New Year. (should not exceed ~145 characters)
Article status: Star (must be guide or above).
Time to feature: Jan 2023
Nominated by: SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 05:25, 27 November 2021 (UTC)
Comment: Here's an article for the Lunar New Year for 2023. The article is a star, so I'd trust that all requirements are met.[reply]

Arch in Samphanthawong District, Bangkok, Thailand.jpg
Scheduled for Lunar New Year 2023. /Yvwv (talk) 23:44, 28 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]


Place: Yangshuo
Blurb: Famous among backpackers for its scenic karst mountains. (should not exceed ~145 characters)
Article status: Guide (must be guide or above).
Time to feature: March-April and Oct-Nov seem to have the best weather. Possibly January for Lunar New Year.
Nominated by: Yvwv (talk) 16:07, 11 December 2021 (UTC)
Comment: We have no nominees from mainland China. Most venues need to be tagged. Re-categorized from OtBP to DoTM.[reply]

  • Comment: I wonder if this qualifies as OtBP given that this is a heavily touristed area. Anyway, I'll support this nomination if others do. It looks like the article hasn't been updated much recently, so I will try to do some work on it early next year. STW932 (talk) 17:53, 10 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I also think this fits as a DOTM Tai123.123 (talk) 17:56, 10 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Close some brushups needed + coordinates and dead links. I'm neutral on dotm or otbp. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 09:40, 16 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment just want to say it was slushed in 2015, it seems it’s improved since then though. Tai123.123 (talk) 07:34, 23 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for pointing out. See /Slush pile#Yangshuo. /Yvwv (talk) 13:50, 23 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]


Place: Dresden
Blurb: The capital of Saxony once suffered catastrophic damage from Allied bombing in 1945, today it stands as a charming, relaxed and in many ways a beautiful city and a relaxing destination. (should not exceed ~145 characters)
Article status: Guide (must be guide or above).
Time to feature: Not sure tbh
Nominated by: SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 08:55, 18 December 2021 (UTC)
Comment: I'm kind of surprised this has yet to be featured, but there's always a start for everything. Can't see anything missing here.[reply]

  • Support some minor fixes needed but that can be done soon. --SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 08:55, 18 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Very close. Needs a climate graph. The text has a bit of a German accent, and should be proofread by a native English speaker. Just like most of Germany, weather is most pleasant at summer, and the Christmas fair could make the city worth to visit in December. /Yvwv (talk) 13:42, 18 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Scheduled provisionally for October. Could be a bit chilly though, and not sure about festivals or events. /Yvwv (talk) 21:28, 21 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support I visited Dresden about 15 years ago, and the article looks good. I have done some updates, but it is hard to check all the details at the moment as many places are impacted by current restrictions. AlasdairW (talk) 17:59, 28 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Rescheduled in September for milder weather. /Yvwv (talk) 10:27, 25 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]


Place: Gaborone
Blurb: Botswana's capital is just a few decades old, already established as the gateway to this friendly county. (should not exceed ~145 characters)
Article status: Guide (must be guide or above).
Time to feature: March-May or Aug-Oct, weather-wise. Not sure about public events.
Nominated by: Yvwv (talk) 03:20, 3 January 2022 (UTC)
Comment: We have had few African features, and none from Botswana. This article seems to be up to date.[reply]

Three Dikgosi Monument - March 2010.jpg
I did not take the time to fully look at the article earlier, but now I have so I'm going to say it needs work. Some issues:
  • Understand is way too short.
  • The "Modern architecture" section has no description nor addresses
  • The same with the other "See" listings
  • The same goes with the other sections
That's just a start. So until this is fixed, I'm going to oppose a feature. However, in saying that, I'd like to see this being featured one day, perhaps maybe after these have been fixed. --SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 22:47, 17 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Scheduled for September, for good safari weather and Botswana Day on 30 September. Scheduling was made before the comment above, and can always be reconsidered. /Yvwv (talk) 22:51, 17 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
On hold due to remaining issues. /Yvwv (talk) 10:28, 25 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Slush? The article has unaddressed issues some months past nomination. /Yvwv (talk) 13:25, 1 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Don't know to be fair. I'd love to see an article from Botswana be featured (as outside ZA, Southern Africa has had relatively few features), but at the same time, it needs some work. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 08:03, 2 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Newfoundland and Labrador[edit]

Place: Newfoundland and Labrador
Blurb: One of Canada's Atlantic provinces, Newfoundland and Labrador is known for its great open vast wilderness and fishing communities. (should not exceed ~145 characters)
Article status: Guide (must be guide or above).
Time to feature: Northern summer
Nominated by: SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 10:58, 14 January 2022 (UTC)
Comment: Canada deserves more features, especially given that its the world's second largest country in size. This one is in good shape and looks good to go. I would like it to be featured in 2022 replacing Singapore/Orchard and moving Orchard Road to Christmas. Hopefully, this will increase our geographic variety for this coming northern summer/southern winter. As for the timing, is August a good time to visit NL? Pinging our Canadians @Ground Zero, Pashley, OhanaUnited: --SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 11:27, 14 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Gros Morne NP westernbrookpond2.jpg
  • Support as nominator. --SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 10:58, 14 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support I'd say avoid any Canadian winter, including N&L. (That's why I'm in the Philippines :-) However, spring & fall are likely OK. Some travellers might be interested in the many icebergs that come down the strait between N&L and Greenland, mostly in spring. We might say more about that. Pashley (talk) 12:02, 14 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support July and August are definitely the best months. The iceberg calving (that is what it us called) in April attracts a lot of Germans. I've added an iceberg viewing infobox. Ground Zero (talk) 12:30, 14 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Scheduled for August replacing Singapore/Orchard. As per The dog2's suggestion, that is probably better off for November or December for Christmas shopping. --SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 12:56, 14 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The August slot overlaps with Wine Regions of Ontario. While both deserve to be featured, we should avoid to have simultaneous features from the same country. We could switch Wine Regions of Ontario with Ohio State Parks. /Yvwv (talk) 14:12, 14 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I've switched it. Also switched Percé as well. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 02:45, 15 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]


Place: Freetown
Blurb: Sierra Leone's capital is a fast-developing city with some of Africa's finest beaches. (should not exceed ~145 characters)
Article status: Guide (must be guide or above).
Time to feature: December to April to avoid rain. Possibly March for Film Festival and Ballanta Music Festival.
Nominated by: Yvwv (talk) 10:58, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
Comment: Africa is severely under-featured. This article has been considered for featuring for a while, and has the essentials.[reply]

Freetown street (13992704238).jpg
  • Close – I'd love to see this featured, and I agree that outside South Africa, Africa is severely underrepresented. Some issues tho:
  • There are two national parks on the static map, but there is no mention about them in the article. Maybe I'm nitpicky about this as someone who's into the concepts of metro national parks
  • Many listings are missing contact info.
  • There are no buy listings.
  • Many of the beach listings have just the beach name and coords with nothing else
Otherwise, it looks good to go. Once they're fixed, I'll support. --SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 11:32, 2 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Arches National Park[edit]

Place: Arches National Park
Blurb: Containing one of the world's highest concentration of Arches, the park has become one of the state icons of Utah. (should not exceed ~145 characters)
Article status: Guide (must be guide or above).
Time to feature: During autumn or spring (northern)
Nominated by: SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 00:47, 19 March 2022 (UTC)
Comment: We have not have a park article from North America being featured for some time. I went here a few years back and everything here seems up-to-date.[reply]

5028-arches-delicate-arch RJ.JPG
  • Support as nominator. --SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 00:47, 19 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment Is it OTBP or DOTM according to w:List of national parks of the United States it gets 1.8 millin visitors a year which puts around the top 15 most visited parks in the USA. Tai123.123 (talk) 02:37, 19 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    I've known this park for a long time and I did eventually get around to visiting it on my last trip to Utah, but I am going to say OtBP. I was even thinking on whether it should be a dotm or otbp for a while, before I finalized my decision on otbp. The US NPS promotes their national parks so much, to the point where most people around the world know the most parks in the US but barely any outside it. If I really had to make a list of US national parks that could make it to dotm, here's what I'd think:
    • Yosemite NP*
    • Yellowstone NP
    • Death Valley NP*
    • Grand Canyon NP
    • Olympic NP
    • Zion NP*
    • Golden Gate NRA
    • Hawaii Volcanoes NP
    • Mount Rushmore NM
    Note that a * means it has already been featured
    These are probably a borderline:
    • Arches NP
    • Glacier NP
    • Everglades NP
    • Glacier NP
    • Great Smokey Mountains NP
    That too is quite a lot for a single country. Also, it's worth noting that visitor numbers don't necessarily correlate with fame – Uluru-Kata Tjuta NP in the centre of Australia is pretty much known worldwide, but it does not get as many visitors due to its isolation. As the US gets a lot of domestic tourism, it gets a lot of visitor numbers.
    As another example, that I could give is Fiordland National Park, which is one of New Zealand's finest parks and most international visitors pay a visit to the park. However, as New Zealand only as 5 million inhabitants, the visitor numbers are way lower. Banff or Jasper in Canada would be a similar case, if Canada did not have a land border with the United States and both would qualify for a dotm.
    So ultimately, it should be an otbp. Visitor numbers don't exactly represent how well-known it is, which is what is needed to be a dotm and if we feature this as a dotm, we will then have to feature the other three national parks in Utah as dotms, which then we'll fall into the loophole of featuring every single national park well-known to people from a certain regions as dotms. Let's not fall into that pitfall. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 03:04, 19 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • I'd say noplace with 1.8 million visitors is "off the beaten path." DotM. Ikan Kekek (talk) 03:30, 19 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    Per the comment at the very top: "Well-known and/or popular destinations should be nominated as Destination of the Month, while more obscure destinations should be nominated for Off the Beaten Path" – I don't think Arches NP is well known outside the US. If that's the case, then should we feature Acadia National Park as a dotm? It received 4,069,098 visitors in 2021, but hardly anyone outside the US (and maybe Canada) knows that park – and it's not well-known. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 04:03, 19 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    If a park gets more than 1.5 million visitors its definitely a popular destination and therefore DOTM. Some former Japanese DOTMS like Hamamatsu and Okayama aren't known very well outside of Japan but due to their popularity with domestic (and size) they were DOTM rather than OTBP. Tai123.123 (talk) 06:21, 19 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Yes, Acadia definitely should be DotM. Ikan Kekek (talk) 05:40, 19 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    If we're okay with featuring places that get a lot of domestic tourism, I'd be more than happy to move this up to dotm. I always thought that dotm was only for the most well-known internationally, but I guess it's time to feature more national parks as dotms. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 07:32, 19 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    Moved. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 07:39, 19 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks! Tai123.123 (talk) 08:05, 19 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support. Could use a more inspiring intro. Otherwise, not much else is needed to feature. /Yvwv (talk) 23:50, 20 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support I agree that the intro could be improved, additionally I wish Moab's eat and sleep sections were better considering that this article's eat and sleep section basically say "go to Moab for amenities". The article it self is fine though. Tai123.123 (talk) 22:52, 24 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Scheduled for October. /Yvwv (talk) 10:27, 25 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Milford Sound[edit]

Place: Milford Sound
Blurb: One of New Zealand's prime icons, this fiord nestled in the north of Fiordland National Park contains a spectacular combination of mountains, sheer cliffs, waterfalls and marine life. (should not exceed ~145 characters)
Article status: Guide (must be guide or above).
Time to feature: Southern summer
Nominated by: SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 00:31, 28 March 2022 (UTC)
Comment: I've recently taken some interest in Fiordland National Park recently and have recently upgraded this to guide. As for dotm/otbp, Milford is an important tourist spot not just in South Island, but NZ as a whole, so it'd be absurd to feature this as otbp and Arches NP as dotm. I'm willing to do any changes if needed.[reply]

Milford Sound 02.jpg
  • Support as nominator. --SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 00:32, 28 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support. Has all the essentials. The boundary between DoTM and OtBP might need a deeper discussion than we could have for an individual article vote. Absolute number of visitors might be an incomplete measure. Let's say that a city in a high-income, high-population region such as Germany, Virginia or South Korea has around 100,000 citizens, but is no tourist attraction in its own right. We would probably feature it as OtBP, though it is likely to attract many thousands of visitors per year for business, sports, performance events and family occasions. In absolute numbers, more people would visit that city, than a national park or natural landmark which is world famous, but more isolated. The limit has to be subjective. /Yvwv (talk) 22:54, 7 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    I agree. To me, it seems absolutely absurd if we were feature to Arches National Park as a dotm and if this as an otbp when Arches NP is only heavily visited because of the large domestic tourism in the US but otherwise relatively unknown outside, while Milford is one of New Zealand's prime tourist destinations but gets fewer visitors because NZ's population is 66 times smaller than that of the US. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 23:05, 7 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Scheduled provisionally for February 2023. / 10:41, 2 May 2022 (UTC)


Place: Lyon
Blurb: France's third city is famous for its Roman heritage, its cuisine, and its proximity to the mountains. (should not exceed ~145 characters)
Article status: Guide (must be guide or above).
Time to feature: Any. Aug-Oct is harvest season, and has decent weather. Not sure about public events.
Nominated by: Yvwv (talk) 09:17, 2 April 2022 (UTC)
Comment: France receives more international tourists than any other country, but has had rather few features. This is a lengthy article, though many places need coordinates. Slushed in 2010.[reply]

  • Very very close – I'd love to see this featured. Only thing that's missing is coordinates as you mentioned, which I'll start later this month. --SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 23:07, 7 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment: The districts map needs better color-coordination. It's unusual for an undistricted city to have a districts map, but I think it's fine with a map and good descriptions. Ikan Kekek (talk) 06:34, 28 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    @Ikan Kekek: I'm stuck with the flu at home this week so I'll try and make a better districts map if I can. No promises though, as I'm still a rookie at making static maps (the few I've made are nowhere near good as our existing maps, but given that few can make these maps, I'll give it a shot), but I'll try my best. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 10:46, 28 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I hope you get better soon! Ikan Kekek (talk) 17:54, 28 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]


Place: Wengen
Blurb: With steep slopes and reliable snowfall, this picturesque car-free village nestled deep in the Bernese Alps of Switzerland is one of the world's top downhill skiing destinations. (should not exceed ~145 characters)
Article status: Guide (must be guide or above).
Time to feature: Winter (Nov-Apr, roughly)
Nominated by: Jpatokal (talk) 03:53, 20 April 2022 (UTC)
Comment: Wengen is small, but it's a major tourist destination, so off the beaten path would be a stretch. Great article and it's just luvvly-jubbly in the springtime.[reply]

View From Wengen, Bernese Oberland (2521799368).jpg
Close, but needs some work:
  • Why is there only one listing in "Drink"? There are others mentioned, but they should be in a listing format.
  • Do the churches pass wv:worship? If so, they should be in a listing or markered at the bare minimum
  • The buy section is missing contact details, coordinates and addresses
That's all from me right now. Will do the smaller fixes myself. --SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 04:05, 20 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
No personal experience re: the other bars mentioned, alas. The Lutheran Church is picturesque and has great views, so it's worth a mention, but I'd drop the rest. I've cleaned up the Buy section. Jpatokal (talk) 05:27, 20 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Needs work. A ski resort should have a description of the lift system and spectator events. Could use a climate chart. /Yvwv (talk) 09:10, 20 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Wengen is not a standalone ski resort, but just a node in the rather vast Grindelwald-Wengen-Murren-First-Schilthorn ski area: you can ski down to Wengen, but getting up the slopes requires taking the train or gondola. This is mentioned in passing but I'll try to make this clearer. Jpatokal (talk) 12:50, 20 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Maybe the region should have an article on its own, whether it is called Jungfrau Region or something else. /Yvwv (talk) 22:21, 21 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]


Place: Sucre
Blurb: Bolivia's nominal capital is a UNESCO World Heritage Site with a showcase of indigenous and colonial history. (should not exceed ~145 characters)
Article status: Guide (must be guide or above).
Time to feature: October to April to avoid the cold. Carnival in February.
Nominated by: Yvwv (talk) 22:59, 31 May 2022 (UTC)
Comment: We have few upcoming features from South America, and we never had a feature from Bolivia (except on The Other Site, back in 2006). The article has the essentials, but could mention more on topics such as the new airport, shopping, and crime.[reply]

Blue Sky, White City - panoramio.jpg
  • Almost – a few see listings need descriptions, but that is relatively minor and this article can run as it is if it has to. Would love a feature from Bolivia! --SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 06:32, 1 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The "History" section also needs an update, as it doesn't seem to have been updated since the coup that ousted Evo Morales. I just changed one "is" to "was", but that's not enough. Ikan Kekek (talk) 23:13, 22 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Nominations for Off the Beaten Path[edit]


Place: Gävle
Blurb: Joe Hill's hometown is the gateway to northern Sweden, famous for Sweden's largest rail museum, and a Christmas market with a giant Yule Goat. (should not exceed ~145 characters)
Article status: Guide (must be guide or above).
Time to feature: Great weather and outdoor events June to August. The notorious Christmas goat is inaugurated in late November, and Gävle is one of few large Swedish cities to usually have snow in December.
Nominated by: Yvwv (talk) 18:50, 8 September 2021 (UTC)
Comment: Has improved during 2021. While Gävle is decently sized and has many interesting venues, it does not seem heavyweight enough for DoTM.[reply]

Yule goat Gefle Sweden 2009.jpg
  • Support assuming the nature reserves get a description and contact information. --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 19:03, 8 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment: If featuring before Christmas, I'd say November, as 11 December is very close to Christmas, and there is little reason to go in January – at least there are no hints on winter activities in the article. –LPfi (talk) 06:52, 9 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
It is true that we should be a bit prospective. Banteay Chhmar is not good to go, so we could run Gävle in November. /Yvwv (talk) 08:30, 9 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Added two ski facilities. Gävle usually gets the first snow in early December, so there will be some chances for winter sport. The ice hockey season will be ongoing, though the horse races close down for winter. /Yvwv (talk) 13:29, 20 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Close I just added an Understand section, that even the smallest articles should have. And that section should have a couple of paragraphs of Gävle. A pic or two towards the end, and in the lead could be added and a few listings need coordinates. --Ypsilon (talk) 15:32, 11 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Added history and climate. How extensively should we mention the traditional arson attacks on the goat? /Yvwv (talk) 15:04, 14 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Looking good. Perhaps a few more lines (in its listing or in Understand), given that the goat is mentioned in the blurb, but not more than that. --Ypsilon (talk) 15:14, 20 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I'm otherwise neutral but I think we're now starting to have too many articles nominated that are to be run during an event or anniversary so I'd prefer Gävle because of that (also it's nice to have a "real winter article" every now and then, we haven't had that many of those). --Ypsilon (talk) 15:54, 1 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Featuring a holiday-related article at the end of the year would be a good concept, be it for Christmas, Gregorian New Year, Chinese New Year, or Thanksgiving. There are just a handful of those destinations (Bethlehem and Rovaniemi can be considered), so we can save Gävle for 2022 and run Plymouth in 2021. /Yvwv (talk) 14:02, 7 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Gävle is an underrated summer destination, with Furuvik, white nights, and great outdoors within walking distance. They will stage Atlas Rock on 4 June, and Gefle Metal Festival in July. As a winter resort it is mediocre compared to many other Nordic towns. /Yvwv (talk) 23:37, 10 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Scheduled. Have added a few summer-related venues. White nights, Midsummer and rock music give a more gratifying experience than the goat and darkness from 3 pm. /Yvwv (talk) 14:05, 30 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
On hold, replaced by Deventer, which has stronger support. I would love to see Gävle featured for May, June or July, but these slots tend to get filled by other Nordic destinations. /Yvwv (talk) 00:08, 15 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Scheduled for Christmas 2022. /Yvwv (talk) 23:44, 28 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]


Place: Farnborough
Blurb: Famous for its air show, there are many more aviation attractions in the English town where the French imperial family rests in peace (should not exceed ~145 characters)
Article status: Star (must be guide or above).
Time to feature: Preferably July 2022 for the next air show
Nominated by: Ypsilon (talk) 15:21, 20 September 2021 (UTC)
Comment: What can I say, it's a star article so it definitely deserves a month on the Main Page.[reply]

Airship Hangar.jpg
  • Support as nominator. Ypsilon (talk) 15:21, 20 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support; this was successfully approved to star status and accordingly has been subject to a high level of scrutiny and criticism. An active contributor is able to update the article whenever necessary. --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 16:02, 20 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support. This is a Star article, so I doubt that there are any issues that would prevent its being featured as an OTBP article. ----Nelson Ricardo (talk) 18:24, 20 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Strong support star article so why not? SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 22:47, 20 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Scheduled. The air show takes place on 18 to 22 July. Not sure whether to schedule during 11 June to 10 July well before the show, or 11 July to 10 July, during which the air show takes place. We should consider to loosen up the time slots to line them up for special events; featuring this article from 21 June to 20 July would be perfect. See talk page. /Yvwv (talk) 13:57, 30 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Budderoo National Park[edit]

Place: Budderoo National Park
Blurb: Australia isn't particularly known for its rainforests, but this small national park in the Illawarra south of Sydney may make you reconsider that. (should not exceed ~145 characters)
Article status: Guide (must be guide or above).
Time to feature: Late Mar-Oct except Jul
Nominated by: SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 22:55, 21 October 2021 (UTC)
Comment: I have always wanted to nominate an Australian rainforest to be an otbp and before yesterday, Dorrigo National Park was the only guide Australian rainforest park. Unfortunately, that article needs a lot of updates, and I don't think I can do the 600km trip given the current Covid situation, so here's a new article, but up to date and a 150km trip down here can be done easily (can do that in the upcoming few days). Given we usually feature one national park every year and we haven't picked a national park yet, thought this might be a good one.[reply]

Minnamurra Rainforest - panoramio (19).jpg
  • Comment I also did make some banners well in advance although it's not locally uploaded (1, 2, 3), although that's something to decide on later. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 00:19, 22 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Close. Could use a climate graph, and more info on flora and fauna. /Yvwv (talk) 21:39, 11 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
    @Yvwv: Yes Done. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 06:12, 12 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support due to recent additions. Scheduled provisionally for October/November, following the guideline that a scheduled article should have at least one support vote from someone else than the nominator. /Yvwv (talk) 21:52, 21 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Punta Arenas[edit]

Place: Punta Arenas
Blurb: The capital of Chilean Patagonia is a gateway to Antarctica, and a good place to see penguins. (should not exceed ~145 characters)
Article status: Guide (must be guide or above).
Time to feature: December to March
Nominated by: Yvwv (talk) 16:24, 22 December 2021 (UTC)
Comment: We have no upcoming South American articles. This article has improved a lot lately, and is clearly in the OtBP category.[reply]

Punta arenas city.jpg
  • Support, but is this an OtBP? It's a good article overall, except that the dead links need to be fixed. However, is it really an OtBP? It's fairly internationally significant, at least from what I know. --SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 05:38, 23 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
There is no clear defining line between DoTM and OtBP. Number of visitors per year would be a decent guideline, but I cannot find any statistics for Punta Arenas. While the city has more than 100,000 inhabitants and many hospitality venues, it is fairly isolated, 3,000 kilometres from Santiago. /Yvwv (talk) 01:50, 28 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Well, we did feature Yosemite National Park and Zion National Park as dotms even though they're national parks. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 04:24, 12 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Needs a bit of work, though hopefully not much. 'Get around' is very sparse on details for a city that size, and there are a few too many dead links for my liking. PA is undoubtedly off the beaten path, right at the bottom of Patagonia, and cut off by road from the rest of Chile. I haven't been there, but my father has, as part of the tortuous LATAM airline route to the Falkland Islands (the Santiago to PA stretch alone was like 3½ hours). Most visitors are on their way to somewhere even more remote: Antarctica, rural Patagonia or one of the islands.--ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 11:00, 12 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Scheduled provisionally for Dec 2022/Jan 2023. /Yvwv (talk) 13:20, 25 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Cooch Behar[edit]

Place: Cooch Behar
Blurb: The capital of the Koch Kingdom and the only planned city in North Bengal, near the border with Bangladesh. (should not exceed ~145 characters)
Article status: Guide (must be guide or above).
Time to feature: Nov-Dec for Rash Mela. November to March to avoid the monsoon.
Nominated by: Yvwv (talk) 16:08, 30 December 2021 (UTC)
Comment: With a billion inhabitants, millennia of history and steadily improving infrastructure, India deserves more featured articles. When it comes to DoTM versus OtBP, we have yet to settle on a definition. Cooch Behar has around 100,000 inhabitants, but it has few foreign visitors.[reply]

Cooch Behar Palace - Cooch Behar - West Bengal - 005.jpg
  • Support, there is a need for some guides from India and this guide seems quite good as compared to its previous versions. But there must be a clear-cut definition about DoTM and OtBP. 2006nishan178713t@lk 18:01, 3 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support - Cooch Behar is an interesting town that, despite enjoying a long and esteemed history, is generally overlooked by travelers heading to nearby Darjeeling, Kalimpong, Siliguri and Bhutan. SingyeDzong (talk)
  • Sorry, but I'm going to have to oppose. It recently got districtified unilaterally with no discussion on the talk page. Since it's been districtified, the only thing we could do now is possibly just work on the districts. However, some of the districts are just an outline with no banners made for them yet. Regarding whether it's a dotm or an otbp, I'd say OtBP. India has so many cities over 100k inhabitants, well more than most other countries. There's some other articles about India at guide status and they could possibly be alternatives. --SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 04:22, 12 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Discussion is ongoing at Talk:Cooch Behar#Districts. Hopefully we can settle on a good solution for the geographic hierarchy. /Yvwv (talk) 10:03, 12 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Apologies, didn't realise that discussion. But until Cooch Behar is reasonably districtified, it can't go on the main page. --SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 10:07, 12 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The districtification issue has been fixed by creating redirects and merging. 2006nishan178713t@lk 14:34, 12 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Even apart from the districts, the formatting isn't great. There's a lot of tdf violations, a lot of listings with no description or addresses. IMO, this looks more like a usable article rather than a guide article. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 00:27, 13 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
tdf issues have been fixed and I am working on the listing issues. 2006nishan178713t@lk 07:59, 13 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
okay, that's great. I'll be ready to support once you've finished. I do have hopes that this will be featured one day. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 08:02, 13 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@SHB2000, template issues have been fixed. 2006nishan178713t@lk 08:23, 17 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, good work as always. It's very close. If I may suggest, creating section headers may be useful separating things like parks, other POIs as it's currently a bit unreadable. I also noticed that there's a lot of places of worship – I'm not sure whether they can all be listed per wv:worship. If not, then some of them can be listed in the #Cope section. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 08:29, 17 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, I will do it soon! I have some lectures to attend now. :) 2006nishan178713t@lk 08:57, 17 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Sure thing. It's turning out really nicely, so nice work :) --SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 09:22, 17 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Some non-significant places of worship have been removed. Created sub-sections in the see section and minor edits. 2006nishan178713t@lk 16:03, 17 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, now Support. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 23:25, 17 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
👍 2006nishan178713t@lk 02:44, 18 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Scheduled provisionally in Nov/Dec 2022 for Rash Mela. /Yvwv (talk) 14:44, 18 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]


Place: Jimbaran
Blurb: Known as the "Beverly Hills of Bali" or "Millionaire's Row" for its high-end resorts. (should not exceed ~145 characters)
Article status: Guide (must be guide or above).
Time to feature: April to October, weather-wise. Not sure about festivals or events.
Nominated by: Yvwv (talk) 07:38, 8 January 2022 (UTC)
Comment: Indonesia is a large country with no scheduled features. Bali itself has been featured, but none of the many places on Bali with guide-level articles. We can also consider Amed, Bedugul, Candidasa, Denpasar, Kintamani, Lovina, Nusa Dua, Nusa Penida or Sanur.[reply]

Jimbaran Bay.jpg
  • Comment The two maps seem similar and I feel it would be better if there was only one, if dynamic is more up to date we should keep that one Tai123.123 (talk) 08:03, 8 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support LGTM. --SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 12:28, 13 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Very close. I would like to see more information in "get around," such as main roads in the resort, so travelers have a better idea than merely what a phone's GPS would provide. --Comment by Selfie City (talk) (contributions) 14:59, 17 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    I have added main roads. Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 17:56, 7 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Scheduled provisionally for February/March 2023. Not the driest season, but decently sunny. / 10:42, 2 May 2022 (UTC)


Place: Trabzon
Blurb: With an ancient Greek heritage, Trabzon was an empire in its own right during the Middle Ages. (should not exceed ~145 characters)
Article status: Guide (must be guide or above).
Time to feature: Northern summer, as climate is cooler than the rest of Turkey. June for Kadirga Festival, or August for Sultan Murat Festival.
Nominated by: Yvwv (talk) 13:10, 25 January 2022 (UTC)
Comment: Turkey is very under-featured. Not sure whether Trabzon would weigh in for DoTM.[reply]

Kustul Monastery Trabzon.jpg
  • Comment. This is one of the greatest articles of Turkish locations, thanks to the hard work by many of our contributors, first and foremost User:NeoRetro. However, it needs some tidying up: some of the information pertains to the region as a whole, not only to the city, and as for the listed attractions, the article currently works as a semi-rural area, with many sites in the surrounding area lumped in together with those in the city itself, including some which should be moved to the places we have articles for. However, most are visited as day-trips from Trabzon, so I'm not sure how big a problem this presents. Vidimian (talk) 15:00, 25 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • I’d lean DOTM on this Tai123.123 (talk) 20:45, 25 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Needs work per Vidimian. For dotm/otbp, I'd generally say dotm, but as we have a lot more otbp slots available, I wouldn't mind it being an otbp. --SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 11:18, 26 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]


Place: Deventer
Blurb: One of the Netherlands' oldest cities, with loads of character to show for it. (should not exceed ~145 characters)
Article status: Guide (must be guide or above).
Time to feature: Northern summer, July, September or December for notable events.
Nominated by: Wauteurz (talk) 14:46, 27 January 2022 (UTC)
Comment: Previously requested by @Yvwv, but speedily slushed for not being a guide article. Yvwv's reason for nomination was to fill a lack in featured Benelux articles. The article's been expanded upon and officially made guide status (per Talk:Deventer#Guide status?), so the previously existing issues should now have been addressed.[reply]

20150630 Zicht op Deventer1.jpg
  • Support as nominator. -- Wauteurz (talk) 14:46, 27 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support. Good, well-written article in good shape and an interesting-sounding destination. Ikan Kekek (talk) 19:40, 27 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Close some descriptions needed for some of the sleep listings. Otherwise, it's a great and interesting read. --SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 21:31, 27 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    I haven't stayed in many hotels myself, so my descriptions might not be the best, but you may consider this done. -- Wauteurz (talk) 23:51, 27 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks for adding them :-) I now Support. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 00:12, 28 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support following recent improvement. This article is superior to Gävle, and could run for August 2022. Gävle would fit better for early summer, with white nights, Midsummer and festivals. /Yvwv (talk) 16:28, 29 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    I know I suggested August myself, but I should have thought about it for more than two seconds. The book market takes place in August, but on the 7th. Seen as how the August slot starts on the 11th, that's kind of wasted. There isn't a lot of things during the August timeslot that would be big enough to be worthwhile. I am not sure how much anything can be shuffled, but actual slots that would line up with events would be:
    • July for the book market;
    • September for "Open Monumentendag" (national event; monumental buildings open their doors to the public during the weekend, which is likely to include a lot of places in Deventer) and the Deventer Bock Beer Festival (relatively new event, but still very popular);
    • December for the Dickens Festival and Christmas markets.
    I'm not saying that August isn't doable, just that there's better alternatives. I'll edit the Time to feature in the nomination as well. Wauteurz (talk) 20:59, 29 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
July is probably not the best time to feature it given that Farnborough is scheduled then (for the airshow). December is probably a good time as this has more votes than Punta Arenas. --SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 22:32, 29 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The 2022 Dickens Festival is planned for 10 and 11 December. It makes sense to pick a featured period so that a public event happens at the end. That would make the Nov/Dec slot suitable for Deventer. However, Cooch Behar is lined up for the Rash Mela festival in Nov/Dec. We should wait and see. /Yvwv (talk) 19:10, 30 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Scheduled for Aug/Sept, as Open Monumentendag is on 10/11 Sept, at the end of the slot. Replaces Gävle. /Yvwv (talk) 00:06, 15 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Schedule for May/June? Ingolstadt is not really good to go. Gävle is good to go, but should not feature with the neighbouring Archipelago Trail. /Yvwv (talk) 13:54, 25 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]


Place: Savaii
Blurb: The largest island of Samoa is known for caves, lava fields and waterfalls. (should not exceed ~145 characters)
Article status: Guide (must be guide or above).
Time to feature: May to October to avoid rain. The island has few public events.
Nominated by: Yvwv (talk) 13:24, 12 February 2022 (UTC)
Comment: We have no current nominees from the Pacific Islands. Apia featured in August 2020, and it has been customary to have at least 24 months between neighbouring featured articles. The article could need a more inspiring intro.[reply]

Savaii Coast (7079031273).jpg
I'm on it – I'll do this in the next week or two. --SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 23:40, 27 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]


Place: Sopron
Blurb: Also known as Ödenburg, this Austro-Hungarian border city has roots back to the Roman Empire. (should not exceed ~145 characters)
Article status: Guide (must be guide or above).
Time to feature: Weather is warm enough from May to September. Not sure about public events.
Nominated by: Yvwv (talk) 20:29, 11 April 2022 (UTC)
Comment: Hungary is appealing to visitors, but has had very few features. Many Hungarian town articles are nominally at Guide level (Érd, Hévíz, Budakeszi, Keszthely, Rétság, Zalaszentgrót, Zalalövő, etc), some of them hardly deserving the ranking. The Sopron article is one of the most extensive, with a good Understand section, as well as elaborate entries with coordinates for most venues.[reply]

Sopron z19.jpg
  • Close, but not yet. On a quick read it looks a good article, but I did see a few things that need to be worked on:
    • There are about a dozen see listings with the marker 99 - maybe some of these should be moved to Go next and become a different type of listing.
    • Interesting knowing what the bus fares were in 2014, but today?
    • Several dead links.
    • Following the recent changes, there are now more supermarket listings than we normally allow.
    • Very few listings have edit dates, which implies that they are old and need to be checked.

Otherwise it looks promising. AlasdairW (talk) 21:59, 12 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

You have a point that the article has entries for too many historic buildings. Those that are not normally open to the public, and do not have any extraordinary importance (palace of a ruler, etc) do not need to be listed individually. /Yvwv (talk) 22:15, 12 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Very close I don't have a problem with too many historic buildings, and as long as the churches listed pass wv:worship, it is fine. However, the we have the 99 problem, but that can be solved by creating a travel topic (such as Historic sites in Sopron), which also doesn't make this article long and unwieldy. However, the buy section does need a bit of work to reflect the recent wv:grocery addition and some of the eat/drink listings need descriptions, but otherwise the article has all the essentials for a feature. It seems a majority of the content here was added by Globetrotter19 in 2015, so it's reasonably up-to-date, but the dead links need a check but that can be done soon. --SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 22:26, 19 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]


Place: Destination
Blurb: The population centre of Svalbard is the northernmost town in the world and a base for exploring the remote Arctic wilderness. (should not exceed ~145 characters)
Article status: Guide (must be guide or above).
Time to feature: Northern summer.
Nominated by: SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 12:44, 17 April 2022 (UTC)
Comment: We've have few features of Norway and this one seems like a good article for another Norwegian feature. As to dotm or otbp, Longyearbyen is reasonably well known but not enough for dotm.[reply]

  • Very close as nominator. Some listings are missing addresses (which I will add in the next few days), but otherwise it has all the essentials needed for a feature. --SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 12:44, 17 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Very close. As this is a rather unusual destination, the article could use some more trivia. Svalbard itself featured back in 2006, and since then we have had very few Arctic and Antarctic destinations. /Yvwv (talk) 13:08, 17 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
A preferrable timing would be June/July, with the midnight sun. /Yvwv (talk) 12:56, 18 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I'd prefer that slot too. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 13:04, 18 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
We might have a diversity problem as June is high season for the Nordic countries, and we have both E8 through Finland and Norway and Swedish Empire considered for June 2023. Svalbard is administered by Norway and most visitors arrive through Norway, but nature and culture are very different from Norway proper. /Yvwv (talk) 09:16, 20 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I don't think there's a problem with featuring all three at once. The islands are around 700 kilometres from the mainland at the closest, but that's in the far north of Norway and I would more so consider Svalbard as an Arctic destination rather than a Nordic destination.
Another possibility is to hold of E8 till 2024, and two years after we feature the nearby Archipelago Trail and do what we do with neighbouring destinations (as the closest points are closer than 80 km apart based on a quick google earth line). SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 10:11, 20 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: On the talk page, we have concluded that features on Wikitravel before 2012 should be seen as unofficial, and eligible to feature again on Wikivoyage. However, very few of the OtBP's of that time would make the cut today. Svalbard is one of few pre-2012 features which deserves its Guide status. Shall we nominate Svalbard itself? /Yvwv (talk) 12:20, 12 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I don't know to be fair. The Svalbard article is overall one of the best region articles we have on the English Wikivoyage, but only one of Svalbard's six national parks have an article. But if Svalbard is run again, it should be featured as dotm, not otbp, as it strikes me as absolutely absurd to feature one of the world's most famous islands as "off the beaten path" (and as it has regular flights from Oslo, it would bring it in line with Uluru-Kata Tjuta National Park which was a dotm).
That said, I'll start some of the national park articles soon, and five is not many to work on. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 12:33, 12 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Alternatively, we could consider Klaksvík, which is the only guide level article from the Faroe Islands as there have been zero features from the Faroes before. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 10:31, 22 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]


Place: Guanajuato
Blurb: The "city of Frogs" is capital of the namesake state in Mexico is known for its silver mines and flood tunnels. (should not exceed ~145 characters)
Article status: Guide (must be guide or above).
Time to feature: October to April to avoid rain and heat. October for Day of the Dead, or March for Baile de las Flores.
Nominated by: Yvwv (talk) 12:40, 13 May 2022 (UTC)
Comment: We have no current nominees from Mexico, and few from Latin America. Nominating as OtBP, as it is not among the most famous Mexican destinations.[reply]

View of guanajuato city.jpg
  • Almost – this article is one of our best Mexican articles that could be featured as it is. However, the splurge section in Eat has no listings. Are there no splurge restaurants in Guanajuato? Otherwise, a few descriptions are needed for some listings, but otherwise it has all the essentials. --SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 12:48, 13 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]


Place: Klaksvík
Blurb: Visit the Faroe Islands’ second largest town for some great scenery, a historic and scenic harbour and for its annual summer festival, Summarfestivalurin. (should not exceed ~145 characters)
Article status: Guide (must be guide or above).
Time to feature: July for Summarfestivalurin (as it happens annually during early August.)
Nominated by: SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 08:29, 12 June 2022 (UTC)
Comment: First up, I'll admit I’m a bit biased given I started this article, but I’ve always wanted to feature this article ever since this became a guide article. We’ve never had a feature of the Faroe Islands, and often it’s forgotten and while I’m aware that we do have several Nordic nominations, this could replace Longyearbyen if we don’t want a back-to-back Norway/Sweden feature. That said, it does need some copyedits, and it could do with a better get in/around section. I tried to add a climate chart, but I couldn’t find any online information for the town's climate, but I’m not sure whether it’s needed given it’s only 40 km from Tórshavn, and there’s not much deviation in weather through the Faroes at all.[reply]

Faroe Islands, Borðoy, Klaksvík (3).jpg
What copy edits does it need after I made some today? I would have supported, but if you think it's not ready yet, why did you nominate it now? Ikan Kekek (talk) 10:53, 12 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I'll admit I only skimmed through the article after you copyedited it, but now that I've had a full re-read, I think it's good to go. I might expand the "get in" section, but we have more than a year to do this, but I think that's all that's needed for a feature. As for why I nominated it now, I nominated it now, I nominated it so we could reserve July/August 2023 for Klaksvik. Anyway, thanks for your copyedits. Looking much better now :-). SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 11:00, 12 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment: Klaksvík narrowly meets the limit for creating a standalone article, with one hotel and at least three other venues, but can still be considered a bit too small. We could consider merging the article with Borðoy (the island) to include some smaller villages, mountains, birdwatching locations, and other points of interest. /Yvwv (talk) 08:58, 15 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    I'm a bit unsure on this one. I think it would make more sense to cover everything else on Borðoy in Northern Islands or otherwise it makes Borðoy (after renaming) a bit redundant. Maybe we should do something along the lines with Torshavn and Streymoy, where Torshavn only covers the city, while Streymoy (the rural area article) covers everything outside Torshavn (apologies for omitting the accent; can't get the accent on my keyboard). SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 09:30, 15 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • The article certainly looks long enough to stand alone, and recall that we previously featured and starred Childs, New York, which has but one inn and one sight (albeit a complex) in "See and Do". That said, there is no Borðoy article; the term redirects to Northern Islands. So if there's more to say about the island outside of town, we could rename the article. Ikan Kekek (talk) 06:29, 28 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]


Place: Iquitos
Blurb: A metropolis in the Peruvian Amazon, with great opportunities for boat safaris. (should not exceed ~145 characters)
Article status: Guide (must be guide or above).
Time to feature: While the dry season (April-Sept) is more comfortable, the wet season (Oct-March) is more appealing for wildlife watching. We are short on features for northern winter, and we usually feature Latin American cities for carnival season.
Nominated by: Yvwv (talk) 01:23, 22 June 2022 (UTC)
Comment: We haven't too many South American candidates, and this is a rather unusual city. Though its size, it can be considered off the beaten path for the difficulty to get there.[reply]

Belen Iquitos Peru.JPG

Nominations for Featured travel topic[edit]

Loop Art Tour[edit]

Place: Loop Art Tour
Blurb: Did you know that you can see some amazing modern art for free by taking a walk around downtown Chicago? (should not exceed ~145 characters)
Article status: Star (must be guide or above).
Time to feature: Apr-Oct (from Magnificient Mile's and Bronzeville's nominations)
Nominated by: Ypsilon (talk) 14:32, 29 January 2021 (UTC)
Comment: OK, as you probably all know, I don't like having articles sitting around here for longer than necessary (also it looks like some of the already nominated articles from the U.S. will still sit around here into 2022). But there has to be two years or more between articles from the same city, an article from Chicago was featured in April 2020, so the earliest possible slot for a Chicago article will thus be in April 2022. Now all, or almost, all districts from there are at guide or star status and could be run as DotM or OtBP, and as such Chicago together with Washington D.C. and San Francisco and perhaps some other cities, have high quality articles for DotM and OtBP for years to come.[reply]

But this is not the case when it comes to FTT; other than Peter Southwood's famous diving guides (speaking of northern winter 2021-22 three years will have passed since one of those was featured, so it's time to nominated a new one soon) we don't have any other travel topics at star status - except for this one. So before a district of Chicago is nominated, I hereby nominate Loop Art Tour for FTT for some month in 2022.

As a star article, there shouldn't be anything to complain about when it comes to formatting or language. Though, a month or so before the article is featured we should check online that the artworks are still there.

Cloud Gate at dawn.jpg
  • Support as nominator. --Ypsilon (talk) 14:33, 29 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Almost The talk page says that one of the sculptures has been removed. It has been 8 years since any real update, and so I think it needs somebody to walk the route to confirm that everything is still there, and there are no new major attractions enroute that need a mention. The main sights should be markers, with wikidata links so the reader can find out more, or use a full page map. For an article on the main page, there should be links to relevant travel topics. AlasdairW (talk) 15:33, 29 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Nobody needs to walk the route, and we don't have any active Wikivoyagers in Chicago anyway. The status of the sculpture that's been removed can probably be determined by a Google search. If not, then just delete it from the itinerary. -- AndreCarrotflower (talk) 17:42, 29 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I might be wrong, but I think user:The dog2 is in Chicago. If not, you may not need an actual person to walk it, but the internet research should be more involved than you imply, per Alasdair's suggestions. Most readers will likely assume that featured articles have been thoroughly researched, and as recently as possible.--ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 18:58, 29 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
There's also User:SewChicago, who unlike me is an actual local who was born and raised in Chicago. I'm currently based in Chicago, but I'm still a foreigner. I haven't really been going out recently thanks to the pandemic, but I'd be happy to go around a bit more after I get vaccinated. Unfortunately, I don't know when that will be. They're currently having a severe shortage of vaccine doses in Illinois, and things are just so disorganised here. It's kind of sad that what is supposed to be the best and greatest country in the history of mankind is bungling the vaccine rollout so badly, in contrast to how organised and competent the rollout has been in my native Singapore. The dog2 (talk) 19:05, 29 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Since the meat of the article has already been written, it shouldn't matter that you're not a native Chicagoan. But, yeah, any time later in the year that you feel safe to go out, your help would be much appreciated (and much needed, given that by the time this is featured, it'll be 10 years since it was last done). I don't expect to get the vaccine for months yet, but I am lucky enough to not be in a rush and don't envy anyone with a more urgent need. I'm just thankful that most of my older family members have all either had their first jab or have an appointment scheduled.--ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 20:20, 29 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────By the way, I noticed that the Buckingham Fountain is missing from the tour. That would add some extra time, but if you want to look at art installations in Chicago, I'd recommend it. I actually prefer it to the Crown Fountain. The dog2 (talk) 00:39, 30 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Support. I haven't felt motivated to vote on nominations for features during the pandemic, but this is a star article, so I have full confidence that it'll be in great condition by the time it runs. Ikan Kekek (talk) 01:22, 30 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support. It's a star article. Unless it's degarded since starring, it deserves to be a DotM. --Nelson Ricardo (talk) 05:20, 10 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support. As a star article there shouldn’t be too much to worry about regarding this one. --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 18:45, 21 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Rescheduled for April/May. The article is good to go, and late April is sufficiently warm in Chicago. Ohio State Parks is delayed to June/July, as it needs some work, and is more of a summery destination. /Yvwv (talk) 10:48, 16 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I just noticed that if we schedule this in May, it will overlap with Homer for its last ten days. Is there any objections in switching Homer with Ingolstadt? SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 03:16, 15 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Freedom of panorama issues[edit]

It seems that Commons does not have many images of the tour due to freedom of panorama, and as such there is barely any image selection to choose from and none of the images in the article work out as a banner to the dimensions of 3:1. We can only feature it if someone finds a photo that can be uploaded locally that works as a banner, or else we might have to slush it due to the lack of banner (which nobody would like to do). --SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 07:44, 19 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

On hold due to lack of images. /Yvwv (talk) 12:46, 20 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Yvwv: It may be the most strangest reasons, but should this be slushed? As far as I'm aware, Wikivoyage needs to comply with US and Californian law as the servers are hosted in California, and the freedom of panorama issue is not going to change anytime soon and so until that is ever resolved, this can never be a featured article unless the law somehow changes. (cc nominator @Ypsilon:). SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 10:12, 21 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
There are photos on Commons of the Bean (Cloud Gate) and I have a couple of my own photos of it. The question is whether we can claim editorial use for a main page banner rather than an image in the article next to text describing the artwork - it might be good to mention the specific artwork in the blurb. The BP Bridge has a functional purpose and so may not be affected by US FOP. I can't make a banner at the moment, but I will take a look next week. AlasdairW (talk) 10:50, 21 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
If you have some photos which are not affected by FoP, I guess we don't have to slush it then. However, this is on hold, and will probably only run in November, so there's plenty of time. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 11:01, 21 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Are all of the artworks mentioned in the article copyrighted, if there's a single one that is not we could use a photo of that as banner if such a photo is available. How about the picture the article's banner is cropped from? Or if there's no artwork we could use, we could just use a view along the itinerary that wouldn't include any of the artworks (shouldn't be a problem to find photos as we're talking about central parts of U.S's third largest city?). --Ypsilon (talk) 12:13, 21 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Fixed. There are two banners to choose from, showing the BP Bridge which is a functional structure that should be free of FOP concerns. AlasdairW (talk) 14:38, 17 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

German cuisine[edit]

Place: German cuisine
Blurb: While Germany is famous for meat dishes with cheese, bread and beer, their cuisine is cosmopolitan with flavours from the whole world. (should not exceed ~145 characters)
Article status: Guide (must be guide or above).
Time to feature: All months have their signature dishes, but Germany is best enjoyed at summer.
Nominated by: Yvwv (talk) 20:48, 21 September 2021 (UTC)
Comment: Meets the expectations of a cuisine article, with Bavarian cuisine and Franconian cuisine as appendices.[reply]

Bratwurst with sauerkraut, potatoes and beer.jpg
Scheduled for mushroom season, just before Oktoberfest and Erntedankfest. /Yvwv (talk) 21:34, 2 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support: I don't have the time or energy to reread this article in its entirety right now (I feel fluish from side effects from a COVID booster I got Thursday afternoon), but I've helped copy-edit this article before and I think it's great. I especially like all the seasons set out by month, because they're so important in Germany. Ikan Kekek (talk) 19:59, 14 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
On hold, as Georgian cuisine is an even better article, and we will have enough German features now. /Yvwv (talk) 15:01, 15 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Scheduled for November to December, with Christmas fairs. If we find three food and drink topics to be too much for a year, we can consider rescheduling. /Yvwv (talk) 23:43, 28 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
On hold again to feature in 2023. /Yvwv (talk) 10:50, 23 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Yvwv: A continuation of the thread in #Georgian cuisine, but should this article still be featured for Oktoberfest, now that we have German beer and wine? I don't really have much of an opinion on the timing, but if there are other famous times of the year known for food, then we should consider it, though just a suggestion, as I don't know much about German cuisine, and I'd defer to both of you. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 11:24, 3 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
As said before, the Oktoberfest isn't that much of a culinary event, but mostly suggested for its world fame. This article can feature any time of the year when we do not have too many features about Germany or food. Georgian cuisine got priority since it is even better, and we have had very few features from the Caucasus. /Yvwv (talk) 11:38, 3 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
That makes sense, and based on your reasoning, I now don't have a problem with featuring it in Oktober. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 11:49, 3 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Around the World in Eighty Days[edit]

Place: Around the World in Eighty Days
Blurb: Jules Verne's 1872 novel gave travellers a demanding but possible challenge. 150 years later, circumnavigating the planet in 80 days without flying, is still not easy. (should not exceed ~145 characters)
Article status: Guide (must be guide or above).
Time to feature: The plot in the book begins on 2 October 1872. Sept-Oct 2022 is the 150th anniversary.
Nominated by: Yvwv (talk) 12:07, 24 September 2021 (UTC)
Comment: Non-flight journeys are in vogue again, and this article has most of the essentials. Nominating early to make the anniversary date.[reply]

Verne Tour du Monde.jpg
Made it the other way around. The summary of the book is italicized. We could add more details about the real-life recreations (at least Nellie Bly's journey) and the movie adaptations. /Yvwv (talk) 14:26, 3 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support, though not sure about safety considerations. Regardless this looks like an entertaining article to feature on the anniversary. --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 16:29, 2 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment: "In particular, the main transcontinental line no longer passes through Wyoming (which has been left without passenger railroads altogether), instead having been routed further south through Denver, Colorado. This means that you will have to hitchhike on a freight train for the leg between Salt Lake City and Omaha if you want to replicate the route taken by Fogg." Is that possible, safe and legal? Otherwise, I think it's a good article and worth a feature, though the linked Freighter travel would benefit from having some examples of prices as of November 2021. Ikan Kekek (talk) 06:44, 15 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

E8 through Finland and Norway[edit]

Place: Destination
Blurb: From Turku to Tromsø, European route E8 passes through various types of Finnish and Norwegian landscapes. (should not exceed ~145 characters)
Article status: Guide (must be guide or above).
Time to feature: May to June for the Midnight Sun, or April to August
Nominated by: SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 10:22, 20 October 2021 (UTC)
Comment: We don't feature itineraries that much, and this seems a good candidate for sometime next year.[reply]

Skibotndalen, E8.JPG
  • Comment: We hopefully have the Archipelago Trail in May–June, and if this is to be featured in (Nordic) summer, to avoid darkness and icy roads, I think it comes too close. Perhaps 2022 2023? If for some reason there are problems with the Archipelago Trail this could of course be a backup. –LPfi (talk) 10:56, 20 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I introduced the guideline that a nomination should be intended to feature within the coming 12 months. This is more a requirement for quality, than for available spots. We should preferrably have a backlog of nominated high-quality articles, so we can afford to choose the most suitable article, with regard to factors such as climate, holidays, public events and safety. /Yvwv (talk) 15:03, 26 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
May to June would be a great time to feature, for the Midnight Sun. That would make us wait until 2023, unless we run E8 instead of the Archipelago Trail. /Yvwv (talk) 21:13, 26 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I'd prefer to keep this until 2023, since the Archipelago Trail is more developed than this one. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 06:56, 14 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I agree, but I take the opportunity to ask: what should be done to improve this article, except developing the listed articles, and perhaps doing some more research on the bus and bike options? –LPfi (talk) 09:37, 15 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
In my opinion, nothing major needs to be done, at least from what I've noticed (more specific to this article), but maybe an infobox or two would be nice, but we've plenty of guide and star articles without them. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 09:59, 15 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
For May-June 2023 we can also consider Swedish Empire, during the 500th anniversary of Sweden's independence. That article also has several destinations in Finland. /Yvwv (talk) 15:52, 16 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Yes. This road isn't going to disappear in the near future, it can be featured any year. If we get somebody writing about the Ostrobothnian destinations before that, it'd be a big bonus. I know them only superficially. –LPfi (talk) 16:39, 16 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support. The article is great overall, though it should be proofread by a native English speaker for better flow in the language. /Yvwv (talk) 17:39, 22 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]


Place: Christianity
Blurb: The world's most prolific religion has more than 2 billion followers, and churches and shrines on all continents. (should not exceed ~145 characters)
Article status: Guide (must be guide or above).
Time to feature: Preferably around Christmas or Easter.
Nominated by: Yvwv (talk) 22:03, 7 November 2021 (UTC)
Comment: A fine travel topic to schedule for the holidays. We have had very few religious features.[reply]

Última Cena - Juan de Juanes.jpg
  • Support, but hold it, I feel it might be too close to Rome/Vatican, but when you mean "for the holidays", you mean Christmas, right? Maybe 2023 Easter, but I don't have too much issues with it being featured in December 2022. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 06:55, 14 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
We have Rome/Vatican on hold. Jerusalem/Old City is a decent candidate. Exodus of Moses needs work. That will keep us a few Easters forward. /Yvwv (talk) 19:08, 25 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Yvwv: if that's the case, then support. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 10:40, 2 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support on the basis another religion or religious culture is nominated for FTT by the time this one is featured. Judaism looks like the likeliest candidate right now but Islam, Buddhism, and Hinduism are also all close to guide status and could be considered to increase diversity in our FTT nominations. --Comment by Selfie City (talk) (contributions) 00:20, 2 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Hajj is not yet rated Guide, but it looks close to me. Pashley (talk) 16:01, 12 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Portuguese phrasebook[edit]

Place: Portuguese phrasebook
Blurb: Whether you plan to ever visit Portugal, Angola, Cape Verde, Guinea-Bissau, Mozambique, São Tomé and Príncipe or Timor-Leste or just learn a couple of phrases in Portuguese, here's a quick guide. (should not exceed ~145 characters)
Article status: Guide (must be guide or above).
Time to feature: Sometime in early 2023, one year after the Sinhala phrasebook
Nominated by: SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 08:39, 14 November 2021 (UTC)
Comment: Currently being nominated for star article which should be promoted any day now. It's one of the only phrasebooks where we have audio pronunciations, thanks to the hard work of Nelson Ricardo 2500, and now it's time for that effort to be shown on the main page.[reply]

Hiking sign in Soajo.jpg
  • Very very close a bit more images would be nice. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 08:39, 14 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Thank you for the nomination. I've added a few more images. Given my contributions to this phrasebook, it goes with saying (but I'll say it anyway) that I Support it for Featured Travel Topic. --Nelson Ricardo (talk) 19:00, 14 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • First of all, this looks better than any other phrasebook I've seen on this site, and I especially love that there are speech samples we can listen to for everything, so I definitely support. I have a couple of marginal comments: (1) There is a remark that Portuguese descends from Galician. To my understanding, modern Galician and Portuguese instead descend from w:Galician-Portuguese. My other comment is that the thumbnail chart of international phonetics seems too small to be useful to include, even to make the point the caption makes, but I wouldn't try to insist on removing it. Also, perhaps some of the other thumbnails are a little smaller than necessary. I don't know Portuguese, but this seems like it might be a star-level phrasebook. Ikan Kekek (talk) 19:54, 14 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
    Thank you, IK. I have clarified re Galician-Portuguese. I have added a note to the caption on the IPA chart that it can be clicked to enlarge, since many casual readers won't know that. (I definitely want to keep the chart in, since the article uses IPA as a supplement to pseudo-phoneticization and sound files.) All images are at default size, which allows users to specify their own desired thumbnail size at Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-rendering. I prefer to not override those user preference settings. --Nelson Ricardo (talk) 20:29, 14 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Thank you. I'm good with your decisions. Ikan Kekek (talk) 20:38, 14 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Ikan Kekek: to "it might be a star-level phrasebook", it's why it's currently nominated for a star ;) SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 06:47, 15 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Northern winter would be good timing, as most Portuguese-speaking countries are tropical, and Portugal itself is among the mildest countries in Europe. /Yvwv (talk) 16:12, 16 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Yvwv: Northern summer works for countries like Portugal, Angola, Mozambique, Timor-Leste et cetera, but northern summer is typhoon season in Macau. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 03:48, 21 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • I just realized, I never offered my support for featuring this phrasebook. It would be silly for me not to do so, seeing how I support its promotion to star status. Ikan Kekek (talk) 10:49, 3 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Scheduled provisionally for Dec 2022/Jan 2023. /Yvwv (talk) 13:21, 25 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Rescheduled for Nov 2022/Dec 2023. We have some tradition to feature phrasebook at the beginning of the year, but nothing is set in stone. /Yvwv (talk) 23:04, 27 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I guess that works climate-wise too as the storm season in Timor hits more after January. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 23:11, 27 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Rescheduled for Jan/Feb, as customary for phrasebooks, right before carnival season in many Portuguese-speaking countries. /Yvwv (talk) 23:52, 28 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Planning your flight[edit]

Place: Planning your flight
Blurb: Flying presents the traveller with many choices: airline, flight, cabin class, and sometimes a specific seat. (should not exceed ~145 characters)
Article status: Guide (must be guide or above).
Time to feature: Any. Possibly northern spring, before the global high season for tourist flights.
Nominated by: Yvwv (talk) 03:29, 21 November 2021 (UTC)
Comment: With many of the world's flights on hold for nearly two years, this is a good time to feature the basics. We could feature the flight articles one by one.[reply]

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Land Art Trail on Mount Učka[edit]

Place: Land Art Trail on Mount Učka
Blurb: A mountain at the Adriatic Sea has become an outdoor art gallery. (should not exceed ~145 characters)
Article status: Guide (must be guide or above).
Time to feature: Weather is probably best in May-June or September-October
Nominated by: Yvwv (talk) 16:49, 5 December 2021 (UTC)
Comment: We have had very few features from the Balkans, and none from Croatia. Outdoor attractions can be more compatible with the pandemic.[reply]

Signpost on Land Art Trail - Invitation.jpg
Scheduled provisionally in Oct/Nov 2022. /Yvwv (talk) 21:31, 21 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support as one of our quirkier and well-planned itinerary articles. I noticed this article some time ago and remember it being well-written and organized. --Comment by Selfie City (talk) (contributions) 00:15, 2 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment: I didn't feel up to reading all the way through the article, but am I the only one who finds the "Understand" section overly preachy? I did edit it somewhat - the use of "man" and male pronouns for humanity is very old-fashioned and kind of jarring, at least for many Americans - but just how much do we need to push an idea of how to experience that trail? My feeling is that we definitely should state what the author's intention is, but we can then let people experience it however they do and go on to practical descriptions and advice on how to get from Point A to Point B, etc. I'll try posting a briefer alternative version of that section on the article's talk page later. Ikan Kekek (talk) 11:08, 3 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Done. Ikan Kekek (talk) 11:20, 3 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Also, having just recently discussed about images in Talk:Canadian national parks, are the galleries a violation of the image policy? Per Wikivoyage:Image policy#Montages and galleries, "should only be considered for showing multiple examples of a specific topic (for example, in describing flora and fauna or cuisine – but not attractions). Image galleries should not be used solely as a way to include a large number of different pictures in a destination article". This isn't a destination article, but it is depicting attractions. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 08:08, 19 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I'd say the composite image at the top definitely violates the prohibition against montages and should be removed. Some of the galleries, such as the one that shows two views of the same spiral geograph, are not needed. Most of the rest seem OK to me, since this is not a destination article, as you said, but an itinerary in which it may be necessary to recognize every artwork. The Sentinel picture is problematic per WV:Image policy#People in photos, though. I'm not sure we should do anything about that. "Land Art Trail on Mt. Učka in winter" doesn't need a gallery; one image could do it. Ikan Kekek (talk) 20:09, 19 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, anyway we have about 7 months left to fix this up so nothing urgent, but we can't feature an article that blatantly violates WV:IP though. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 00:00, 28 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I made a few edits in the last few days, but we should make decisions about whether it's appropriate for this article to violate Wikivoyage:Image policy#Minimal use of images. I think that the density of images and the galleries still violate those guidelines, and while that might be OK as an exception, featuring this article carries strong risks that readers will believe this is exemplary in that respect and copy it in ordinary destination articles. Are the descriptions of the artworks clear enough that we can reduce the number of images to a more limited selection that excludes some of the works, eliminating the galleries with the possible exception of "Signposts and markings on the Land Art Trail" and creating 3 times more space on the right margin between most images, as we would be likely to do in any other article? Ikan Kekek (talk) 20:36, 28 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, we should take extra care that featured articles as many new users look up to them to see how they're meant to be formatted and usually think that format is okay. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 22:23, 28 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I'd assume the trail markings are enough to find the artworks, and they seem to be named on the map, so I think the images are needed more for telling the reader what to expect than for use on the trail. For that it is enough to have examples, and perhaps a few that give examples on how you can "use" the artwork. –LPfi (talk) 10:00, 29 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
It sounds like you guys are agreeable with removing the rest of the galleries and having only single thumbnails; is that correct? If so, let's make the changes. Ikan Kekek (talk) 08:42, 4 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, go ahead. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 22:50, 7 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I just removed the remainder of the galleries, other than the one with markings and signposts, which might be OK. The article still might violate Wikivoyage:Image policy#Minimal use of images, though. What do you all think? Should we delete half the remaining images? Ikan Kekek (talk) 06:18, 28 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
There are still way too many images and I feel very skeptical of featuring an article that's a blatant violation of a simple Wikivoyage policy. Leaving the images may also encourage new editors to well, add a whole slew of galleries because a featured article contained them. Feel free to delete half the remaining images. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 23:21, 28 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
How is it now? Ikan Kekek (talk) 02:24, 29 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Looking much better! However, I think the signposts/markings gallery should also go too. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 02:25, 29 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Let's talk about that. From Wikivoyage:Image policy: "Image galleries are discouraged, and should only be considered for showing multiple examples of a specific topic (for example, in describing flora and fauna or cuisine – but not attractions)." How does that apply to signposts/markings? Ikan Kekek (talk) 02:40, 29 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I thought the reason why we discouraged such galleries was because these chew up data and are slow to load, especially in places with poor reception. The reason why I'm okay with these in cuisine articles is because nobody prints these out, and many will read these articles before they're going to that destination (e.g. if I'm going to say Franconia, I would read Franconian cuisine before leaving to Franconia, but I wouldn't print it out, nor would I want to read it in Franconia)
Also, from experience last Saturday (18 June), just the map in Telangana took at least 10 seconds to load while I was on the road with poor 4G signal. If that one image took so long to load, then how long do you think it'll take for the gallery to load? SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 03:09, 29 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I was thinking of it as a matter of style, and I see your point. So maybe select 1 or 2 of the best images from that bunch to use as thumbnails, possibly deleting another one in the process. Ikan Kekek (talk) 03:24, 29 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Quebec Route 389[edit]

Place: Quebec Route 389
Blurb: (should not exceed ~145 characters)
Article status: Guide (must be guide or above).
Time to feature: I don't know, but I would say sometime during the northern summer months? Will defer to either @Ground Zero: who wrote most of the article or @Veillg1:, our most active contributor from Quebec. July or August
Nominated by: SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 11:06, 17 December 2021 (UTC)
Comment: This article has been one of my "articles for inspiration" in my early days on this site, and it's a pretty detailed article. More recently, I've added a mapline to the article too, one of only a few articles on this site to have one. Cannot see anything missing from here as well.[reply]

Route 389 Baie-Comeau - Manic 5.jpg
  • Support as nominator. --SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 11:31, 17 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support as a July or August destination. Ground Zero (talk) 13:13, 21 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Close. I think it needs more detail about the route. Why would someone want to visit these places? What makes each place along the route interesting and connects them to each other? However this is well on its way to being an FTT feature. --Comment by Selfie City (talk) (contributions) 00:25, 2 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • I agree with this. Very good information, but we need a bit more macro-level context. Is this mainly just a challenge, or is it a really beautiful drive, even if desolate? Ikan Kekek (talk) 06:08, 28 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

New Golden Route[edit]

Place: New Golden Route
Blurb: Connecting Tokyo and Kyoto via Northern Chubu, explore one of Japan's popular tourist trails. (should not exceed ~145 characters)
Article status: Guide (must be guide or above).
Time to feature: Not sure. Will defer to @Tai123.123:
Nominated by: SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 04:13, 19 December 2021 (UTC)
Comment: We haven't had much itineraries from Asia being featured before. Here's one good recently created one.[reply]

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  • Comment As this was the first article I worked on I'm unsure if everything fits the Manual of Style though I think the content should be fine, the Magome-Tsumago Trail is another Japanese itinerary I wrote but Magome is already going to be featured soon. Also Karuizawa which is on the route is only an outline. Tai123.123 (talk) 04:18, 19 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Tai123.123 I've just upgraded Karuizawa to usable now. Although Magome is going to be featured soon, this is probably only going to be featured sometime late next year or so. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 04:26, 19 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
As others are fine with it Support! Tai123.123 (talk) 06:25, 7 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: For most destinations along the route, May-June and Sept-Oct seem to have the most comfortable temperature, and not too much rain. Not sure whether Golden Week in Japan is more of an attraction or an obstacle. /Yvwv (talk) 22:20, 21 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support. This article continues to develop into one of our best itineraries. It is concise, which is convenient for the traveler, and all included information is useful for travel. Although in my past I objected to this article's promotion to guide status, now I support it and its FTT nomination due to how it has been written and developed. --Comment by Selfie City (talk) (contributions) 00:24, 2 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Scheduled for July/August 2022, as we have few other Asian features, and northern summer gets filled up by European, US and Canadian destinations. If weather is too hot, we can consider another month. /Yvwv (talk) 22:06, 16 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
That's fine, Thanks! Tai123.123 (talk) 06:26, 7 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Georgian cuisine[edit]

Place: Georgian cuisine
Blurb: The cuisine of Georgia has drawn influences from the Silk Road, and is famous abroad for its quality. (should not exceed ~145 characters)
Article status: Guide (must be guide or above).
Time to feature: August to October is the main harvest season, and has comfortable weather across the country. We could make it customary to run a cuisine article for northern autumn.
Nominated by: Yvwv (talk) 00:55, 5 January 2022 (UTC)
Comment: A near-star article. We have had very few features from the Caucasus. While German cuisine is nominated, Germany is already well-represented in the schedule. We can save the German food for 2023.[reply]

Scheduled for August. German cuisine is on hold for another time. /Yvwv (talk) 15:02, 15 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Perfect! Roovinn (talk) 03:31, 17 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support, with one caveat. I'd like to see the image galleries designed so they stay on the screen. On smaller screens, the gallery is too wide for the screen and not all the images can be seen. --Comment by Selfie City (talk) (contributions) 22:18, 23 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Scheduled for November-December as many fruits are in season and the climate is milder. /Yvwv (talk) 10:51, 23 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Swedish Empire[edit]

Place: Swedish Empire
Blurb: In the 17th century, Sweden encircled the Baltic Sea and had farflung possessions; today, they are yours to explore. (should not exceed ~145 characters)
Article status: Guide (must be guide or above).
Time to feature: Weather is best in northern summer. May/June 2023 would include the 500th anniversary of independent Sweden, and give the customary 24 month cooldown time since a feature from a neighboring destination (Stockholm history tour, featured in May 2021).
Nominated by: Yvwv (talk) 15:49, 21 January 2022 (UTC)
Comment: A history article which both includes a concise historical description, and many relevant destinations with Wikidata links and descriptions. While most of them are in today's Sweden and Finland, some are in less featured regions such as Eastern Europe, the Caribbean, and West Africa.[reply]

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  • Needs some work. I did a bit of copy editing, but the entire article is likely to need some edits by native English speakers for some polish before we run it. Also, can we substitute some other word for "withe", which although English is a term I'd never seen before just now? Ikan Kekek (talk) 19:17, 21 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Needs work per Ikan. --SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 00:00, 22 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I had a reread of the article, and I don't think there are that much issues with the tone anymore and therefore, I now support featuring the article for the 500th anniversary. The 0,0 coord issue also seems to be resolved, and so really, I don't think there's anything that's missing. --SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 11:20, 2 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: The history section has been completely rewritten since the nomination. The timeline and the trivia sections are less prominent. Please reconsider votes. /Yvwv (talk) 11:40, 25 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I don't know if the phrase I put after a semicolon is too cliched, but I found the previous wording of the blurb awkward. For the record, this was the previous phrasing: "A great power of the 17th century encircled the Baltic Sea, and reached far overseas, with a legacy surviving far outside Sweden's current borders." Ikan Kekek (talk) 15:49, 26 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Indira Gandhi International Airport[edit]

Place: Indira Gandhi International Airport
Blurb: Indira Gandhi International Airport is the main airport of India’s capital, New Delhi. Has great connectivity to numerous destinations. The interiors of the airport are stunning. It houses numerous shops and other facilities. (should not exceed ~145 characters)
Article status: Guide (must be guide or above).
Time to feature: March-June for summer season, November-February for festivals and winter.
Nominated by: 2006nishan178713t@lk 11:13, 27 January 2022 (UTC)
Comment: I have visited the airport several times. In the past few days, I have edited it and upgraded it to guide status. It does have amazing interior designs. This guide now provides a full-view of the airport operations and services.[reply]

Sculpture of hasta mudras at Indira Gandhi International Airport.jpg
  • Support as nominator. 2006nishan178713t@lk 11:16, 27 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Needs more work. I don't deny you've done good work on this article, but I couldn't help but notice that some of the sentences used in the article don't present the airport in a good light. Case in point, in the "Eat" section, it was mentioned that some of the restaurants "are mediocre at best". I changed it to something better sounding. Roovinn (talk) 12:09, 27 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Roovinn: If "mediocre at best" is true, then that's what we should say. WV:Be fair means "be honest"; it doesn't mean "paint everywhere in a good light".--ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 12:54, 27 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Fair enough I suppose. Roovinn (talk) 13:51, 27 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I have been to the airport several times, and I have tried to be as honest as possible while contributing to the guide. :) 2006nishan178713t@lk 16:49, 27 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@SHB2000, @Ikan Kekek, @Ground Zero what do you think? 2006nishan178713t@lk 16:58, 27 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Per Wikivoyage:Be fair, I'd mention it. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 08:10, 28 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Tai123.123, what's your opinion on this? 2006nishan178713t@lk 17:52, 29 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Absolutely. If Wikivoyage recommended restaurants that sucked, I'd be mad. Ikan Kekek (talk) 05:54, 12 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I have written "but many are mediocre at best" which gives a general conception about some restaurants. In the listings, I have tried to put the restaurants all with good and positive reviews. I have avoided restaurants that really suck. 2006nishan178713t@lk 06:16, 14 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
2006nishan178713, if the restaurants that are listed are good, that needs to be mentioned, for example like this: "Each terminal has plenty of restaurant options before and after security, but many are mediocre at best. However, the ones listed below are good." Ikan Kekek (talk) 06:04, 28 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support - Looks good and up-to-date. The writing is tight, concise and grammatically correct.--ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 12:59, 27 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Close per above. --SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 21:11, 27 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support The only thing I feel is missing are ways to access the airport from nearby cities like Agra which lack international airports of their own Tai123.123 (talk) 19:49, 29 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    @Tai123.123, I'll add it 2006nishan178713t@lk 05:40, 30 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    In many cases the Get in of those other cities should handle it. Only if there is something general to say about transport from the airport to other cities, I feel it needs to be in the airport article. That could be a train line or coaches with direct services to cities elsewhere, where the existence of such services and the location of the stations should be in the airport article. –LPfi (talk) 11:53, 14 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    Working on it! 2006nishan178713t@lk 09:30, 15 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    Yeah I meant cities with direct connections, probably could've worded my prior message much better. Tai123.123 (talk) 09:39, 15 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    Like agra has direct road and rail connection while noida has direct routes via metro 2006nishan178713t@lk 09:50, 15 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support. Has the essentials. Could be a feature soon, as India is very under-featured. /Yvwv (talk) 21:39, 22 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    Would also be nice to feature an airport article after so long. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 08:59, 24 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Scheduled for December 2022/January 2023, avoiding collision with Cooch Behar. /Yvwv (talk) 23:01, 27 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support. Excellent example of an article that uses brevity to best effect, providing critical information directly to the traveler. This is a well-written article with all the essential details. --Comment by Selfie City (talk) (contributions) 11:08, 15 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Australian cuisine[edit]

Place: Australian cuisine
Blurb: While Australia isn't really known for its cuisine, Australian cuisine is a multicultural cuisine incorporating many Indigenous ingredients and perhaps one of the sweetest cuisines. (should not exceed ~145 characters)
Article status: Guide (must be guide or above).
Time to feature: Jan or Feb 2023 – around the time where there's good produce but anytime during the start of southern summer will also work.
Nominated by: SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 09:10, 23 February 2022 (UTC)
Comment: As you can probably see, it's a fairly new article having only been created recently. That being said, it does need some work on its beverages section. Additionally I've tried not to add a list of ingredients like in American cuisine, since it looks awfully encyclopedic and I don't think many will read it. That being said, I think the article could also cover a bit about etiquette, which while I can do, I'm not really sure how to explain it. The drinks section could also do better with a bit of work too, especially given Australia's large coffee culture, but can do that soon. Also before it gets lost in my banner collection, here's, a banner that I cropped.[reply]

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  • Comment: I think it needs a lot of work. Most sections don't look complete. The Meat section should mention that nearly all beef (and meat in general) is grass fed, not grain fed like it is in so many other countries of the world. Australia is also renowned internationally for its Black Angus beef and its marbled texture. There should also be a point on how experimental Australians are with meat. To what extent is game and offal eaten, for instance. The Fruit and Vegetable section briefly talks about one type of apple, no other kind of fruit and nothing about veggies. There should at least be a mention of Pink Lady apples and Calypso mangoes. The dietary requirements only touches on kosher, halal, vegetarianism and veganism. I think gluten free and nut allergies also need to be covered as a minimum. Iconic Australia ice creams like Paddle Pop, Golden Gaytime and Drumstick are all missing as are Twisties. Regarding seafood, Australia is known for its southern bluefin tuna and salmon (particularly Tasmania). There is no information on burgers which are more popular than e.g. Mexican-American, and no information on unique Australian twists on burgers like adding beetroot. It will come as a surprise to many foreign visitors the first time they order a burger in Australia. The takeaway section should have a sentence on Chinese takeaway plastic containers/boxes, which is different to the cardboard cartons you may find overseas. There's no mention of the great Australian barbecue nor anything on what kind of food is eaten on Christmas, the most important cultural event and festival of the year. Also missing Australian specific chains like Oporto and Red Rooster (see Chinese cuisine for comparison) and types of food establishments like the milk bar. I'll stop rambling now but I believe there is still a lot to do. Gizza (roam) 13:55, 23 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Not yet As the Australian drawbridge has only just been lowered, I think we should wait a year to allow edits as a result of readers using the guide. I agree with DaGizza that there is much to do. Snacks are well covered, but I think there is work to do on meals. Is kangaroo meat farmed, or are wild kangaroo's hunted or culled? Are there standards for the welfare of farm animals? Do Australian hotels serve breakfast? What times do Austrialians usually eat meals - will the restauarant be full of locals or empty at 6:30pm? What kind of food can be found in supermarkets - ready meals, hot food or just raw ingredients? AlasdairW (talk) 23:21, 23 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • I'd realised I as the nominator forgot to give my vote, but my vote is also needs work. --SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 10:46, 6 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
My comment as nominator still remains needs work, but I feel skeptical of the "fruit and veg" section or an ingredients section itself. I'm making this judgment based on American_cuisine#Ingredients which is pretty much a blob of super long user unfriendly text and it's mostly not travel related. --SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 04:08, 12 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The issue with the American cuisine section is that it lists nearly everything that's eaten by Americans. My suggestions were more towards mentioning varieties of fruit and veg which are unique or originated in Australia. Gizza (roam) 06:40, 14 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
That makes sense and it is more doable, user friendly and travel related. We could also list some important food festivals too. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 06:58, 14 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Scheduled provisionally for February/March 2023. The article has improved, and can probably get good enough for next year. / 10:43, 2 May 2022 (UTC)
Needs work. The blurb, the intro and the article itself all need work: not a single mention of Mod Oz food (!), and the characterizations as "sweetest" (what?) and "not be the greatest culinary destination" are offputting. Also, I'm sorry to say, but Indigeous ingredients are basically non-existent. Jpatokal (talk) 03:42, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
On hold due to remaining issues. /Yvwv (talk) 19:38, 26 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Rail travel in Japan[edit]

Place: Destination
Blurb: With trains over 320 km/h and a network of 27,000 km, rail travel is one of the most efficient ways to get around Japan. (should not exceed ~145 characters)
Article status: Guide (must be guide or above).
Time to feature: March-June 2023
Nominated by: SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 01:33, 12 March 2022 (UTC)
Comment: This is possibly one of our best rail articles we have so far, and also one of our most detailed rail articles. As we have two articles featured from Japan, around 2023 would be the ideal time, around northern spring. With that said, some dead links need to be fixed.[reply]

  • Close per my comment. --SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 01:33, 12 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support. Has all the essentials. /Yvwv (talk) 12:41, 22 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support. I last used trains in Japan in October 2005, so I can't comment on all the details, but it looked good and fairly complete. It might have a little more about what the trains are like inside - I was surprised to find that all the seats face forward (except on commuter trains), as the seats are turned around at the terminal stations. AlasdairW (talk) 23:13, 22 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Close I don't think the joyful train section should be part of the overnight train section as there are many non luxury joyful trains that don't run overnight, I feel this section could also mention other notable joyful trains like the Resort Shirakami or Hello kitty Shinkansen. Tai123.123 (talk) 07:22, 23 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Also I wish the regional rail pass section was longer. Tai123.123 (talk) 07:24, 23 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Tai123.123: Though I'm not sure whether the joyful trains should even be mentioned though. I don't think any of our other "rail" articles mention tourist trains, as these are more supposed to be articles for getting around Japan by train, but this seems to be an outlier. That said, it is very useful information, so I don't see any reason to remove it, though I don't know much about Japan's train system (or any train system outside of Australia's and Singapore's), so I'd defer to you. On another note, while we're at joyful trains, are these synonymous with tourist trains, or do they have a different meaning? SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 11:16, 2 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, joyful trains are tourist trains. Perhaps it may be to create a Joyful Trains in Japan travel topic as they’re very popular with both domestic and international visitors. Tai123.123 (talk) 14:57, 2 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Preferably Joyful trains in Japan per wv:capitalization ;-) --SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 09:52, 7 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Driving in South Africa[edit]

Place: Driving in South Africa
Blurb: Without a good public transport network and many of South Africa's attractions in rural areas, driving is an excellent way to get around the country. (should not exceed ~145 characters)
Article status: Guide (must be guide or above).
Time to feature: 2023 southern winter.
Nominated by: SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 04:03, 17 April 2022 (UTC)
Comment: We have not have a driving article featured for some time and this one seems in good shape to go. I'd expect that by 2023 mid-winter, the damage caused by recent floods would have been cleaned up.[reply]

Speed Camera Sign.jpg
Scheduled for February-March 2023. /Yvwv (talk) 19:40, 26 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Istanbul to Izmir[edit]

Place: Istanbul to Izmir
Blurb: Looking on how getting to and from between Turkey's largest and third largest cities? Here's a quick guide on how to. (should not exceed ~145 characters)
Article status: Guide (must be guide or above).
Time to feature:
Nominated by: SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 09:45, 22 April 2022 (UTC)
Comment: From vfd to ftt, this is one of the site's most developed itineraries with geolines. Not sure about timing. The article may need a little bit of copyediting, but that's about it.[reply]

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  • Support as nominator. --09:45, 22 April 2022 (UTC)
  • Support. I can't think of anything significant omitted from the article. Proofreading for the language used, or other quirks which might have escaped from my pair of eyes would be much appreciated indeed. As for the timing, I'd say the best times to do the route is Apr-Jun and Sep-Oct, but many who actually travel it down do so for the summer holidays, so that gives us a span of more than half a year. Vidimian (talk) 09:55, 22 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
One thing that I feel I have to mention being omitted is the imperial units in distances. I left them out on purpose, because most distances are in the "directions" parameter of the listings, which lead to them being in paranthesis, and using Template:km would result in paranthesis within paranthesis. If anyone feels like they should be added though, I would be happy to oblige. Vidimian (talk) 14:50, 22 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • I'm happy to support this itinerary that I helped to rescue from deletion, and the wonderful work Vidimian has done on it. I plan to look through it and probably do more copyediting when I am healthier (I've had COVID since Sunday night, though I've been improving in the last 3 days), but that's not a reason not to support. Ikan Kekek (talk) 14:17, 22 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The schedule is overloaded with food and drink topics. Could we run this article in November/December instead of German cuisine? /Yvwv (talk) 14:34, 22 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Of course there are business travellers following this route any time of the year, but for leisure Nov/Dec is too late (I think insofar as possible we've always tried featuring articles during the part of the year the places they are associated with are most suitable to travel). I'd think early boreal spring, for which we usually have had a shortage of suitable articles to feature (particularly in the past), is fine.
Get well soon, Ikan! Vidimian (talk) 14:44, 22 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you. I was able to walk down a flight of stairs to get mail today, a big milestone. Ikan Kekek (talk) 16:13, 22 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Best wishes. We could run this article in Aug-Sept and Georgian cuisine in Nov-Dec, as many fruits are in season by then, and many parts of Georgia are more pleasant in late autumn than summer. We can save German cuisine for the Oktoberfest in 2023. /Yvwv (talk) 23:12, 22 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Hey Ikan, firstly, hope you have a speedy recovery. Having been infected with Covid a few weeks ago, I can understand how that feels. To German cuisine, if Yvwv thinks that Oktoberfest is a better time to feature Deutsch cuisine, then we may as well hold it for Oktoberfest next year. It would mean we're not featuring Dresden and German cuisine too close to each other. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 03:16, 23 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you. I'm sorry you had it. My feeling is that anytime is a good time to feature German cuisine. Oktoberfest is about excessive beer drinking, and a lot of the Müchners I spoke with loathe it for the influx of huge crowds of out-of-control drunk tourists, maybe something like the way we New Yorkers loathe New Year's Eve at Times Square and steer well clear of it, but worse, so I really question whether we would want to time anything German with Oktoberfest except an article about beer. Ikan Kekek (talk) 03:49, 23 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for your message. re Oktoberfest, I don't know too much about Oktoberfest, so I'd defer to you and Yvwv. My experience in Germany is fairly limited outside a few days in Berlin but if it attracts a swathe of out-of-control drunk tourists, then not sure whether Oktober is a good time to feature it. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 04:08, 23 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support I'm glad to see that this has very much improved since I nominated it for VFD, one of the best itineraries I've read. Tai123.123 (talk) 03:46, 23 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Scheduled for August to September. Featuring four itineraries in a row could be seen as a diversity problem. However, they are very different in locations and themes. /Yvwv (talk) 10:48, 23 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Needs work though mostly on the supporting destination pages. Main issues:
- out of date, eg the Dardanelles bridge opening has knock on for travel routes which are still playing out;
- some weak destination pages especially eastern routes, we need these for detail of transport, accommodation, POIs etc;
- overlap and duplication, the western route is described on five or six pages. Along the Troad Coast is a subset of this itinerary and my suggestion is to merge it here. Grahamsands (talk) 20:37, 6 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
My thoughts:
  • The Dardanelles Bridge: "By car" has a mention of it, specifically recommends not using it (together with the reasoning), but without leaving those who decide to give it a go out in the cold. I think the bridge opening has little implication on the "By bus" section as it is (although I am very much open to hear arguments to the contrary, and to develop this and other possibly relevant articles accordingly).
  • The eastern route articles: Would be great to have the articles linked from this one in a better shape (I would be only happy to join in an effort towards that goal but having not visited many of the locations myself, my help would be limited), and the current state of some of them may reduce the actual usability of this one, but a total hindrance thereof? I guess not. And given that the destination articles aren't hierarchically connected with this one (cf. huge cities and the district articles beneath), I think that shouldn't prevent this article from being featured.
  • Overlap in the western route: I assume you mean the "Get in" sections of various articles linked from this one. I think there is no harm in providing the relevant information to someone just driving from Istanbul straight to Gelibolu, Çanakkale or wherever and to another looking for a leisurely multiday drive at where they are most likely to look for that piece of information without clicking back and forth between the articles.
  • Along the Troad Coast: I don't agree with merging, because:
    • The two itineraries are on different levels of scale and prominency: The Troad itinerary covers a much narrower geography in a much greater detail.
    • Troad is an independent itinerary; many who travel it do not set the ends of their trip at Istanbul or Izmir (but many others do). I myself have done that route repeatedly, without setting foot at either city in close succession. One of those was by hitchhiking: I hitched a ride from a couple who were driving from Istanbul to Assos as the final destination, just after (or before, I can't remember) getting a lift from another couple who were from Łódź (and were horrified by my pronounciation of their hometown's name), coming in from Greece and heading simply anywhere south.
    • It is an alternative side trip to this one. The main route of this nominated itinerary, as described in its map and text, goes down the inland highway, and there is no obligation to stray away from it. The three suggested destinations here in common with the Troad itinerary (Troy, Bozcaada, and Assos) can be easily visited without covering the full length of that route, by branching off the highway and then retracing back (or can be skipped singularly or in combinations just as easily).
Vidimian (talk) 01:46, 7 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
As what I have in mind needn't affect the nomination, I've started a thread on the Ist-Iz page. Probably simpler to post examples of what I'm thinking. Grahamsands (talk) 15:10, 24 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hamad International Airport[edit]

Place: Hamad International Airport
Blurb: Visiting Qatar for the FIFA world cup? Here's a quick guide on getting around Qatar's prime airport. (should not exceed ~145 characters)
Article status: Guide (must be guide or above).
Time to feature: October 2022 for FIFA world cup
Nominated by: SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 01:37, 26 June 2022 (UTC)
Comment: I'm no fan of soccer and I know I'm a bit late to nominate this, but after seeing what the Italian Wikivoyage did, I also wanted to nominate Doha for the FIFA world cup. However, it has already been featured, and otherwise this currently unfeatured article could replace Land Trail on Mount Ucka, which has some MoS issues. Indira Gandhi International Airport should ideally be pushed back further so it's not featured so close to Cooch Behar.[reply]

As for the article itself, it looks good to me. I last visited Hamad Int'l Airport on transit in 2017 and I cannot see anything missing, but I was only there for two hours.

Children's play area at Hamad Airport, May 2014.jpg
  • Support as nominator. --SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 01:37, 26 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support based on quality, but not ready to re-schedule. There have been concerns about human rights in Qatar, but we have not settled whether those should disqualify an article from featuring. If Land Art Trail on Mount Učka has issues, we should bring it up in the nomination process. Similar travel topics and destinations should preferrably not feature too close together, so delaying Indira Gandhi makes sense. /Yvwv (talk) 05:48, 28 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]