Talk:Developmental records

Can you please develop this article a bit more?

As it currently stands, it is nigh impossible to know which kind of features are to be listed here. Please give some examples so we know what we should put in. Thank you. Hobbitschuster (talk) 19:50, 19 June 2018 (UTC)

Hobbitschuster, here's some examples: largest city, tallest building, longest bridge, longest tunnel, longest highway, and shortest highway. Selfie City (talk) 20:56, 19 June 2018 (UTC)

Almost all of those, especially the first, depend very largely on definition... Hobbitschuster (talk) 21:44, 19 June 2018 (UTC)

But the generally accepted city is Tokyo, right? Tallest building is Burj Khalifa, I think, and so on. Selfie City (talk) 22:46, 19 June 2018 (UTC)

Hobbitschuster, read this: [1]. On that one, Tokyo comes first by more than ten million people. Selfie City (talk) 01:05, 20 June 2018 (UTC)

Tokyo is only 13,572 square kilometeres in area, including the metropolitan area. The Dallas–Fort Worth metroplex is 24,059 square kilometeres. Which is more important to a traveller - the amount of distance he'll need to cover or the number of people he'll meet? --198.103.167.20 17:08, 20 June 2018 (UTC)

And that one Chinese city is "officially" the size of Austria. Those things are incredibly vague and subject to definition. Size of cities by area even more so than population figures. Hobbitschuster (talk) 17:28, 20 June 2018 (UTC)

┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘Yes, but I think we should go with the generally accepted figures, which state that Tokyo is the largest city by population. Selfie City (talk) 17:31, 20 June 2018 (UTC)

Generally accepted by whom? Counting what? First of all what is "Tokyo"? Second of all who counts the population? And even if those two things have easy answers for Tokyo, they needn't have easy answers for many, many other cities, including rapidly growing cities in developing countries. And if we are going by census figures for the municipal boundaries drawn by the local administration, it is that Austria sized "city" in China that takes the top spot. I fully understand dismissing that record, but then we cannot rely on locally drawn administrative boundaries and maybe we can't even rely on census records which lands us back at square one where we have to ask who counts as living in a city and who counts that? Hobbitschuster (talk) 17:45, 20 June 2018 (UTC)

It's true it's not so straightforward, so I think we could let Wikipedia inspire us and add more than one "largest" city; most populous city proper, urban area etc. --ϒpsilon (talk) 18:00, 20 June 2018 (UTC)

this list has Shanghai as the largest city. Also note that those sources that cite "Tokyo" as the largest city invariably include Yokohama, which calls into question the whole "largest city" business. And once we start asking "largest metro area", the whole thing becomes even less clear. I mean is the w:Blue Banana a "metro area"? If so is it "the largest"? Hobbitschuster (talk) 18:01, 20 June 2018 (UTC)

Then perhaps we should list the five largest ones or so. Selfie City (talk) 18:02, 20 June 2018 (UTC)

That just multiplies the problem by five. Yes, many count "Tokyo-Yokohama" as the largest "city" or "metro area" but Wikivoyage very sensibly does not lump Yokohama in with Tokyo and in my humble opinion there are plenty of cities which you could lump together to make them "one large city". And on the other hand you could split cities down on a fairly ridiculous level, in some cases even with administrative divisions or the opinions of locals coinciding with such division. Many people in Berlin would argue Spandau isn't "actually Berlin" and the "square mile" of the "City of London" is also rather well known. For "Madrid" you could count I think three different things and there'd be people saying "this is Madrid" and people declaring you insane for having chosen this boundary.... And those are all cities in rich countries where census records are at least trustworthy to single digit percentages most of the time... Hobbitschuster (talk) 18:14, 20 June 2018 (UTC)

Maybe we ought to just go with w:List of largest cities. Selfie City (talk) 18:21, 20 June 2018 (UTC)

But at the same time I'm OK with the current state of that section. Selfie City (talk) 20:10, 20 June 2018 (UTC)

List from another travel site

The biggest buildings in the world Pashley (talk) 20:47, 6 July 2018 (UTC)

Northernmost electrified passenger railway

The northernmost electrified passenger railway isn't the one to Narvik. Murmansk station is almost at 69° north, about half a degree further north than the northernmost point on Malmbanan. Also, the Kirov Railway is according to Wikipedia electrified since 2005 and there are daily passenger trains from Moscow and Saint Petersburg among others. It's not standard gauge of course, but the Russian gauge is the second most used in the world so we're really talking about a "normal" railway here, not some narrow gauge mine track. ϒpsilon (talk) 15:14, 20 July 2018 (UTC)

You can add that one, too. But I think the northernmost (and southernmost) electrified standard gauge railways are of particular interest, even though Russian gauge may be "a" standard gauge of sorts... Hobbitschuster (talk) 18:02, 20 July 2018 (UTC)

Feel free to add to the article! I'll try to find a way to link trains to this since I think tourists who are train fans will find this kind of thing of interest. Selfie City (talk) 18:13, 20 July 2018 (UTC)

Unfortunately, I can't find anywhere where that could be done yet. Murmansk might be another possibility. Selfie City (talk) 18:19, 20 July 2018 (UTC)

Northernmost university

I thought w:University Centre in Svalbard was the northernmost university. While not a full uni, it provides some university-level studies and should at least be given a mention. Other thoughts? --SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta) 07:43, 23 October 2022 (UTC)