Talk:Dipperz
The state of this article[edit]
Some of the content of this article appears to be a result of a practical joke. A Grass-Station? wtf? What does de-WV have to say about this place? Hobbitschuster (talk) 13:58, 29 June 2015 (UTC)
VfD discussion[edit]
Dipperz[edit]
First off: I don't know whether this place even actually legitimately exists. Second off: Most of its content are just crude jokes written by somebody who appears to dislike the place and/or its inhabitants. Third off (is this even sound English?): de-WV does not have anything to say about this place, despite it being in Germany and particularly North Hesse, an area that de-WV usually covers very extensively, which suggests there to be not much of value to the voyager there. Hobbitschuster (talk) 14:03, 29 June 2015 (UTC)
- Keep. The town is shown on OSM, so the place does exist. It's true that the article needs extensive copyedits, but our policy is not to delete real places, and I've not seen any evidence that the town is unimportant enough to be merged. -- AndreCarrotflower (talk) 14:50, 29 June 2015 (UTC)
- Yes, it exists, w:de:Dipperz. The English-language w:Dipperz is a one-line stub, but there might be something useful in de.WP's article? K7L (talk) 14:51, 29 June 2015 (UTC)
- There is no travel relevant content in the German WP article. Just the last two election results and a half paragraph on history that mentions the first mention of the place and not much else. I would thus favor a redirect as our policy on real places is to not delete them (even though I would think it to be not a bad idea here) Hobbitschuster (talk) 15:40, 29 June 2015 (UTC)
- Why are we being so hasty in judging Dipperz unworthy of its own article? It's no more possible to come to the conclusion that a place has no relevance to travelers based on its Wikipedia article than based on its Wikivoyage article. For instance, a quick Google search shows that Dipperz contains several hotels, so it passes the sleep test. The article may need to be gutted and rebuilt from scratch, but that doesn't mean it shouldn't exist. -- AndreCarrotflower (talk) 16:39, 29 June 2015 (UTC)
- Not to mention that at least half the article seems at least potentially to not be vandalism (everything up to and including "See", as well as "Go next"). -- AndreCarrotflower (talk) 16:45, 29 June 2015 (UTC)
- User:AndreCarrotflower, please look at the edit history. What you deem to be "not vandalism" was either added by me or the last few sentences put in by the vandal who created the page in the first place, which I thought might indeed be credible (though obvious) Hobbitschuster (talk) 12:25, 9 July 2015 (UTC)
- How it came to be is not really relevant; the question is rather what this article can become. As far as I can tell, this place is indeed not all that interesting in itself, but it serves as a base for visitors who come to enjoy the natural features of the region. I too question if this article will ever be a proper one, but I'm also not sure where to redirect it to. There's a lot of towns like it in the area, so redirecting all of them to Fulda doesn't seem right. North-Hesse is too large a region to contain listings, so we can't use that as a container-region like we've sometimes done to solve this issue. JuliasTravels (talk) 20:23, 30 July 2015 (UTC)
- User:AndreCarrotflower, please look at the edit history. What you deem to be "not vandalism" was either added by me or the last few sentences put in by the vandal who created the page in the first place, which I thought might indeed be credible (though obvious) Hobbitschuster (talk) 12:25, 9 July 2015 (UTC)
- Not to mention that at least half the article seems at least potentially to not be vandalism (everything up to and including "See", as well as "Go next"). -- AndreCarrotflower (talk) 16:45, 29 June 2015 (UTC)
- Why are we being so hasty in judging Dipperz unworthy of its own article? It's no more possible to come to the conclusion that a place has no relevance to travelers based on its Wikipedia article than based on its Wikivoyage article. For instance, a quick Google search shows that Dipperz contains several hotels, so it passes the sleep test. The article may need to be gutted and rebuilt from scratch, but that doesn't mean it shouldn't exist. -- AndreCarrotflower (talk) 16:39, 29 June 2015 (UTC)
- There is no travel relevant content in the German WP article. Just the last two election results and a half paragraph on history that mentions the first mention of the place and not much else. I would thus favor a redirect as our policy on real places is to not delete them (even though I would think it to be not a bad idea here) Hobbitschuster (talk) 15:40, 29 June 2015 (UTC)
- Yes, it exists, w:de:Dipperz. The English-language w:Dipperz is a one-line stub, but there might be something useful in de.WP's article? K7L (talk) 14:51, 29 June 2015 (UTC)
- It is a real place so according to policy it should not be deleted. I do not know the area & am happy to leave the choice of keep vs. merge & redirect to those that do. Pashley (talk) 20:51, 30 July 2015 (UTC)
RESULT: kept. Any good options for a redirect can be discussed on the article's talk page.