Talk:Hiking destinations in Sweden

Merge proposal

@LPfi, Ypsilon: Would it make sense to merge this into Hiking in the Nordic countries? --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 14:26, 2 August 2021 (UTC)

Unless expanded, yes. On the other hand we do have a separate article about Finnish national parks. --Ypsilon (talk) 14:38, 2 August 2021 (UTC)

[edit conflict] It could, kind of. Some of the trails were already mentioned, and I added the rest, except Jämtlandstriangeln, which is just a redlink. I remember a user trying to add info on it (a map at least), but I don't find any trace now. The "Areas with short walks" section includes only Tiveden, which I think is important in many other respects, and there are probably "short walks" in many other places.

The problem with the merge and redirect approach is that Hiking in the Nordic countries isn't a list of destinations – we have Finnish National Parks and Hiking destinations in Norway for that purpose – so adding to the list may be difficult. We would need to add an asymmetric Sweden section to facilitate that, but I don't like such asymmetry.

Redirecting probably means killing the article for the time being, but perhaps Swedish hikers make themselves seen if some of them find us, and then we can resurrect the stub. The feelings at the Pub seem to be against redirecting, I don't know what is best.

–LPfi (talk) 15:36, 2 August 2021 (UTC)

If somebody could make a list that includes at least the most important destinations, then I'd definitely support keeping the article. It is easier to develop the content here than in the quite mature Nordic article. –LPfi (talk) 15:40, 2 August 2021 (UTC)

Oh, we did have a separate article for Norwegian outdoor destinations, I was sort of remembering we had one but wasn't sure. In that case it makes much more sense to have a Swedish article. It would of course still need to be expanded but as the article is just two days old then we should definitely not rush to delete it. Let's wait until the end of the year or something along those lines. --Ypsilon (talk) 15:51, 2 August 2021 (UTC)

Indeed. I didn't realise it was created just now. I thought it was a long forgotten one (don't understand how I missed it when looking at the history). –LPfi (talk) 16:26, 2 August 2021 (UTC)

Comment Shouldn't we ask both Yvwv and Bohwaz first? SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 03:59, 5 August 2021 (UTC)

@SelfieCity, LPfi, Ypsilon, Yvwv: Merging or keeping? SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 01:54, 17 August 2021 (UTC)

It is more or less merged already – the parts I found worthwhile merging – but I think the chance of this being developed is much bigger as separate topic. I'd hope we have somebody who could develop the article enough for it not to be misleading, otherwise it needs to be redirected. –LPfi (talk) 07:23, 17 August 2021 (UTC)

I vote keep. There's a separate article for hiking destinations in Norway and there are a lot of trails in Sweden as well, so the right idea is to keep a separate page and expand it, which is my target when I get enough free time. I've started preparing material for the central trails, but needs more work. Merging would in the end make the Nordic article too long and confusing as it would mix very different general topics with specific locations. --Bohwaz (talk) 23:40, 20 September 2021 (UTC)

@SelfieCity, LPfi, Ypsilon, Bohwaz: After more than a quarter of a year, no progress has been made. Redirect? SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 09:31, 21 December 2021 (UTC)

This article has a different, worthwhile, scope. Redirecting means killing it, and that there will be no place for additions. I think it should be kept. We should have a prominent link to Hiking in the Nordic countries, and if we have that, people find it with less confusion than if we redirect. The only additional thing I think is needed is to find a way to ensure this article gets links to all worthwhile content as it emerges. I don't know how to do that. –LPfi (talk) 10:23, 21 December 2021 (UTC)

okay. This article also appears to be orphaned as well. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 11:01, 26 December 2021 (UTC)

Trails with separate articles are few enough to fit in Hiking in the Nordic countries. /Yvwv (talk) 18:45, 1 February 2022 (UTC)

So they are, but trails that should have articles are not. We now mention the three E trails, Nordkalottleden, two Finnish sites (nationalparks.fi and the Karelian trail network), and five Swedish trails. Individual national parks are mentioned only as examples, mainly in the captions. –LPfi (talk) 19:18, 1 February 2022 (UTC)

What about adding a list of the Swedish national parks to this article, with links to the official sites? –LPfi (talk) 19:19, 1 February 2022 (UTC)

Redirected by SHB2000. –LPfi (talk) 13:32, 23 August 2022 (UTC)