Talk:Primitive camping in Denmark

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For quite some time I've been thinking that there is a lack of an English language source on this subject. I'm trying to do this in this travel topic article. I chose to do this as a travel topic article, since I think it has a too narrow focus and is too long to include in the general Denmark article. I plan to add a step by step guide to using the Danish language site to find these camp sites. If there is anything that somebody thinks should be researched and included on this page I'm taking requests on this talk page. --Mads.bahrt (talk) 11:52, 22 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

This is looking good, and I'd love to see more of this type of information for all countries. Keep up the good work! --Peter Talk 13:28, 22 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

To Usable[edit]

I am not convinced this article is really Usable yet. Here are some things I think need to be done to improve the article:

(1) It should be made clearer in what areas of Denmark camping is allowed. Providing links to official sites is great, but links cannot be a substitute to providing sufficient information here. Ideally, a map showing all campsites should be included, but if there are too many campsites for that to be practical, at least some kind of map with an explanation that's understandable to a reader is needed.

(2) All external links must be front-linked.

(3) Some photos would be extremely nice.

Ikan Kekek (talk) 07:54, 29 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the feedback. It was me who removed the outline tag, but I had forgotten to log in at that point. With respect to your points:
1) There are FAR to many camp sites for this to be practical (167 sites in the category "Free camp sites" and 1129 in the category "Primitive accommodation"), and the contents of these lists varies over time. To help the traveller in not inadvertently breaking the law, we do need to direct him to the official site with the updated lists. I don't think a map of these 1200ish sites spread around a country will be practical to create and maintain. Could you elaborate on what is unclear?
2) Noted, I will take care of the external links ASAP.
3) Noted, it would definately make the article more attractive to read. I will try to get to a site or two within the next couple of days to get some pictures.
Mads.bahrt (talk) 15:54, 29 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Items 2 and 3 should be settled. I might get a picture of a danish commercial camp site, a danish forest and a danish beach for illustration of the other categories. Mads.bahrt (talk) 21:03, 29 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. The article is a lot better. What I was hoping for was some indication of what area of the country has the most, or/and the most interesting camping sites. If it's impractical to provide a map, for the reasons you state, maybe all that can be said is that these camping sites are scattered throughout the country — but in that case, let's note something like this: "There are approximately 1,200 camp sites spread across the country. Many of the approved locations change over time. To see up-to-date information, go to the following websites..." Ikan Kekek (talk) 21:43, 29 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I have tried to ad some information on the geographic distributions of these sites. Better?
Something that bothers me about the article: The terms "Primitive accommodation" and "Free camp sites" are chosen because that is the English language terms chosen by the Danish Nature Agency. I think these terms makes the article less easily read and understood since they don't really convey what you get. If I were to name them myself, I would call the "Primitive accommodation" a "Primitive camp site" while calling the "Free camp sites" a "Public forest with free camping" or something like that. This would convey that in one case there is a specific site with some basic facilities, while the other category is a larger area with no facilities and no costs at all. On the other hand, there might be some advantages to using the officially chosen terms. I am thinking about renaming the sections and adding an explanation like In Danish the primitive camp sites are called both "primitive overnatningssteder" and "overnatningspladser" while they are officially known in English as "Primitive accommodation" Would this help convey the subject better? Mads.bahrt (talk) 23:23, 29 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, it's definitely better. I agree with your thoughts on how to clarify those terms, too. Ikan Kekek (talk) 04:12, 30 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Using the Danish Nature Agency outdoor facilities portal for finding primitive camp sites without speaking Danish[edit]

Can we please find a shorter title for this section? It's about 3 times longer than any other section title anywhere that I can remember. Texugo (talk) 11:40, 30 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

It is a worthy point. How about "Finding places to camp without speaking Danish"? Mads.bahrt (talk) 11:57, 30 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]