Wikivoyage:Destination of the month candidates/Slush pile/2025
| ← 2024 | DotM slush pile for 2025 | (current) 2026 → |
|
Place: Japanese castles |
Nomination
|
- Not yet To me, the article is lacking in actual castle listings aside from the 12 originals. It may be the way the article is structured, I'm not sure, but exemplary castles in terms of historical events, historical figures, construction or aspects of its construction, architecture, time periods, etc. should be listed with explanations. Articles like this should be pointing people with an interest in castles towards destinations that cater to that interest. Like a lot of our travel topics, it is too Wikipedia not enough travel (or voyage). To me, I think it's a good start-up article but I don't think it's a "guide status" article. Like I said, I'm not sure if it would work better with a different structuring or maybe it just needs listings within the current structure. ChubbyWimbus (talk) 11:22, 20 February 2025 (UTC)
- I'm not sure I agree. The article provides a ton of detailed information about Japanese castles in general (yes, Wikipedia-style, but it's appropriate here), then listings of every single original castle in Japan with succinct descriptions and why you'd want to visit. Isn't this enough? Opening hours and similar nitty-gritty belongs in the destination articles. Jpatokal (talk) 23:54, 20 February 2025 (UTC)
- None of the issues I stated above suggested I was concerned about listing opening hours. I'd like the castle travel article to feature castles to travel to. The 12 originals are in the Japan article, so if that's "enough", the article is redundant. The "detailed information" is all fluff and filler without relating it to castles that can be visited. Most people with an interest in Japanese castles would already be aware of the 12 originals, so it's not a very useful article in its current state. It has a workable structure but is underdeveloped. ChubbyWimbus (talk) 14:11, 21 February 2025 (UTC)
- Given this discussion has stagnated since February with the issues still largely unresolved, any objections to slushing this for the timebeing? //shb (t | c | m) 07:14, 11 August 2025 (UTC)
- As the nominator, I'm still not clear on what exactly is wrong with this, but given the lack of support let's slush. Asamboi (talk) 00:43, 17 August 2025 (UTC)
- Given this discussion has stagnated since February with the issues still largely unresolved, any objections to slushing this for the timebeing? //shb (t | c | m) 07:14, 11 August 2025 (UTC)
- None of the issues I stated above suggested I was concerned about listing opening hours. I'd like the castle travel article to feature castles to travel to. The 12 originals are in the Japan article, so if that's "enough", the article is redundant. The "detailed information" is all fluff and filler without relating it to castles that can be visited. Most people with an interest in Japanese castles would already be aware of the 12 originals, so it's not a very useful article in its current state. It has a workable structure but is underdeveloped. ChubbyWimbus (talk) 14:11, 21 February 2025 (UTC)
- I'm not sure I agree. The article provides a ton of detailed information about Japanese castles in general (yes, Wikipedia-style, but it's appropriate here), then listings of every single original castle in Japan with succinct descriptions and why you'd want to visit. Isn't this enough? Opening hours and similar nitty-gritty belongs in the destination articles. Jpatokal (talk) 23:54, 20 February 2025 (UTC)
- Okay, I'll slush. //shb (t | c | m) 04:05, 17 August 2025 (UTC)
Outcome: slushed for the timebeing. //shb (t | c | m) 04:05, 17 August 2025 (UTC)
|
Place: Greater Orlando public transit |
Nomination
|
- Support as nominator. (I'm out of ideas for the blurb.) --Comment by Selfie City (talk) (contributions) 20:56, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
- Support, basically. This will be a good FTT for the colder part of the year in the Northern Hemisphere. However, wouldn't it be logical to have a level 2 heading named Operators and then Amtrak etc. as level 3 headings below it? --Ypsilon (talk) 21:00, 25 January 2025 (UTC)
- Sure, I can see how that would be logical. --Comment by Selfie City (talk) (contributions) 21:04, 25 January 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose. Quite frankly, I don't think this (or any other local public transport system) should even be an article on Wikivoyage. I've raised this in Talk:Transportation. Jpatokal (talk) 02:14, 26 January 2025 (UTC)
- My reaction to this article is that it has too much non-travel-related history in the "Understand" section, which I think should summarize information about the various transportation systems in a useful and practical way. On the other hand, I doubt there's enough practical information about systems other than SunRail. About how long does it take to get from the airport to Walt Disney World via Mears Connect? Can the routes of the Lynx bus system be summarized in a more useful way without referring the reader to a long list of SunRail stations? How long does it take to get from Miami to the Orlando airport, and how much does that cost? Finally, what routes likely for visitors to use are impractical on public transportation? In other words, I think some additional work should be done on this article before it is featured. Ikan Kekek (talk) 02:57, 26 January 2025 (UTC)
- Good questions! I agree that those are things that should be mentioned. I can definitely cut down the Understand section as well. --Comment by Selfie City (talk) (contributions) 03:12, 26 January 2025 (UTC)
- Not yet. While I generally think that Understand sections, including this, can have some non-practical background information, here it is too heavy for Wikivoyage. I think some rewriting is needed also in other sections. I'll try to explain on the talk page, when having had a more thorough read. –LPfi (talk) 08:16, 26 January 2025 (UTC)
- I suggest we slush this one because the suggested edits will take time. We can always renominate it at a later date. --Comment by Selfie City (talk) (contributions) 14:42, 26 January 2025 (UTC)
- If you as the nominator feel as though it should be slushed, I think by all means we should slush it. I trust your judgment here. --SHB (t | c | m) 04:57, 27 January 2025 (UTC)
- Sure, although if the oppose/not yet voters would like to look at the artcle again, some changes have been made. If you all feel the changes aren't sufficient, I think we should slush. --Comment by Selfie City (talk) (contributions) 19:14, 27 January 2025 (UTC)
- If you as the nominator feel as though it should be slushed, I think by all means we should slush it. I trust your judgment here. --SHB (t | c | m) 04:57, 27 January 2025 (UTC)
- I suggest we slush this one because the suggested edits will take time. We can always renominate it at a later date. --Comment by Selfie City (talk) (contributions) 14:42, 26 January 2025 (UTC)
- Three months later - any comments? Time to slush? --Ypsilon (talk) 07:50, 1 May 2025 (UTC)
- @SelfieCity: your thoughts on slushing? //shb (t | c | m) 11:58, 1 May 2025 (UTC)
- Yes, agree. --Comment by Selfie City (talk) (contributions) 18:14, 1 May 2025 (UTC)
- @SelfieCity: your thoughts on slushing? //shb (t | c | m) 11:58, 1 May 2025 (UTC)
Outcome: slushed. //shb (t | c | m) 12:18, 11 June 2025 (UTC)
|
Place: Waterville, Maine |
Nomination
|
- Needs some work per comment. Ypsilon (talk) 19:54, 15 November 2024 (UTC)
- The most glaring issue is the blank "Understand" section. Also, if it's true as stated in the lede that "Franco-American culture is evident here," is much French spoken, and should that be stated in "Understand" or perhaps a separate optional "Talk" section? In "Get around," Enterprise is the only car rental agency listed. I can't believe that's the only option in town, and do we need to mention any? I also note the absence of a climate chart or description. So yeah, a lot of work is needed, and the article seems to be a questionable Guide at this point. Ikan Kekek (talk) 21:05, 15 November 2024 (UTC)
- Needs work per above. --SHB2000 (t | c | m) 22:28, 8 December 2024 (UTC)
- Needs work. This article needs an Understand section. I believe that fix is doable, so I think this can be featured, but major changes to the article will be needed and it's not ready yet. --Comment by Selfie City (talk) (contributions) 16:33, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- Actually we now have enough of OtBP candidates for next summer to slush this one and run Vaals in June for example (also see Wikivoyage_talk:Destination_of_the_month_candidates#Summer_2025_schedule). --Ypsilon (talk) 17:23, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- Yeah, I'll go ahead and slush this one. --SHB (t | c | m) 21:59, 7 January 2025 (UTC)


