Wikivoyage:User ban nominations

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User bans are put into practical effect by using a Mediawiki software feature to block edits to any page (except pages in that banned user's user talk namespace) by the banned user.

Add nominations for user blocks to the list below, but please do so only after reviewing Project:How to handle unwanted edits. After a nomination has been made, the nominator is responsible for ensuring that appropriate notice is given on the allegedly delinquent User's Talk page of the nomination made here.

In general the preferred way of handling problem users is through the use of soft security. In the case of automated spam attacks the Project:Spam filter can also be a valuable tool for stopping unwanted edits.

For a history of older nominations see Project:User ban nominations/Archive.

Outstanding nominations[edit]

Telstra abuse user[edit]

The Abuse filter has been working quite well since it began on January 10th, catching and tagging 315 edits by the anonymous user who uses dynamic IP addresses assigned by Telstra in Australia. In the past we have simply caught the user, left the usual message on their talk page, banned as per community agreement and undid their edits. They have unfortunately still been incessantly making edits, and the frequency has increased the past few weeks. May I propose adjusting the filter to block their edits for 1 month ? In addition I can leave an automated message when they try to edit:

Sorry, your move request could not be completed at this time. Your edit has triggered an automated filter that stops new editors from making certain kinds of page moves which are frequently used for vandalism. We apologize if your move was well intended. To complete this move please ask for assistance at the Travellers' pub.

I understand this will also block other unregistered users from the Telstra mobile network, although the abuse filter has not seemed to have caught any such user so far this year so I would say the risk is minimal. Andrewssi2 (talk) 11:00, 13 November 2014 (UTC)

I heartily approve of any step that will save time. This user has been wasting his/her time and the time of everyone who polices his/her edits, posts to his/her talk pages and manually blocks him/her. Ikan Kekek (talk) 11:13, 13 November 2014 (UTC)
OK, I have enabled the automatic warning and block. Since the user will now get a warning message directly they should not have any doubt that they are being blocked.
Since there is no way to set a time limit, I will remove this block myself on 14th December 2014. --Andrewssi2 (talk) 13:06, 14 November 2014 (UTC)
Sorry I was late on this. To be clear, does this message mean that the Telstra vandal has graduated from mere unhelpful edits to page-move vandalism? If so, I had not been aware of that until now. -- AndreCarrotflower (talk) 13:59, 14 November 2014 (UTC)
Would it be possible to just disallow moves by new users, perhaps not until they get autoconfirm status? Or just disallow them for anonymous IPs? Would either be a good idea? Pashley (talk) 18:23, 14 November 2014 (UTC)
It would certainly work in terms of preventing page-move vandalism across the board, but as I see it, one of the main selling points of the original proposal is the warning message Andrewssi2 spoke about, which may finally impress upon the vandal the consequences of his or her actions and may help lead to a cessation of all the problem edits. -- AndreCarrotflower (talk) 18:42, 14 November 2014 (UTC)
The move was not prompted by any page moves (that I am aware of, the existing filter probably wouldn't catch those). It was an increase the the number of unhelpful edits by evading the IP block every single time.
Also to mention that the warning message above is the standard used by the Wikimedia software. I can make customisations if that would be appropriate. Andrewssi2 (talk) 09:53, 15 November 2014 (UTC)
Actually a big success already. The user tried 14 changes yesterday, each one was disallowed with a warning. No extra admin work required to see what they changed and undo.
Since they are unable to change anything on Wikivoyage now, they may just understand that there is an issue that they need to contact us about. Andrewssi2 (talk) 09:59, 15 November 2014 (UTC)
Great! Thank you! Ikan Kekek (talk) 10:10, 15 November 2014 (UTC)
Why are we using the movewarning text instead of the standard edit warning text? Powers (talk) 00:59, 16 November 2014 (UTC)
Sorry, I preferred the language of the page-move message, but you are right in that it isn't accurate. I have changed to default. Andrewssi2 (talk) 11:30, 16 November 2014 (UTC)
The abusefilter-warning message isn't ideal either, as it implies the action can be carried out after the warning by resubmitting the edit. Also, I do note that there are some good (or at least neutral) edits being caught by the filter; is this intentional? Powers (talk) 14:26, 16 November 2014 (UTC)
I saw there is an option to customize the message, and I can look at that. I wanted to avoid changing the existing messages by accident.
The user is banned also for block evasion. Therefore yes, catching 'good edits' (although I don't see any that add value) is intentional. Andrewssi2 (talk) 02:26, 17 November 2014 (UTC)
Please see MediaWiki:Abusefilter-warning-telstra --Andrewssi2 (talk) 02:41, 17 November 2014 (UTC)
Just an update. The user tried three more pointless edits, each one attempted at 12 hour intervals from two different IP's. Andrewssi2 (talk) 11:30, 16 November 2014 (UTC)

User:Hiveserviceapartments and User:122.178.153.218[edit]

These accounts have been guilty of a touting edit war: see Revision history of "Coimbatore" and User talk:Hiveserviceapartments. I'm sure this will not be controversial, but I am posting as usual to inform everyone. I fully expect this stubborn user to return to again edit war, which will incur blocks of 1 week, 2 weeks, 1 month, etc. Ikan Kekek (talk) 06:42, 17 November 2014 (UTC)

No objection here, but for the record, policy says the user blocks escalate more quickly: from three days, to two weeks, to three months, to indefinite. -- AndreCarrotflower (talk) 12:45, 17 November 2014 (UTC)
That's good to know. Ikan Kekek (talk) 13:10, 17 November 2014 (UTC)

Symantec user[edit]

See Wikivoyage:User ban nominations/Archive#Symantec user for previous background.

I'm posting here not to propose an immediate user ban, necessarily, but to once again bring up the idea that perhaps the Telstra user also uses Symantec on occasion. I don't think we should just tolerate this kind of edit by a user who never replies to his/her user talk page (see User talk:117.120.18.131). I will post another talk page message, but I believe it's time to start blocking this user (for a day, initially) if they continue to refuse to pay attention to attempts to communicate. Ikan Kekek (talk) 07:52, 25 November 2014 (UTC)

Aside from the pointless subsection, I don't see a huge problem with the addition. Is it only because you suspect it's the same user as Telstra? Powers (talk) 20:13, 26 November 2014 (UTC)
It's a pointless empty optional subtitle plus a bunch of names with no other information, and it is absolutely identical to problematic edits by the Telstra user. And this user is no more communicative than the Telstra user. Yes, I think this is the same user, and even if not, exhibits exactly the same behavior, and I warned him/her that s/he is likely to be blocked, initially for a day, if s/he posts no reply to his/her user talk page the next time s/he logs on. Ikan Kekek (talk) 21:44, 26 November 2014 (UTC)
Well, Telstra seems to have given up trying to use their mobile connection for edits since the 24th November.
The edits of Symantec do look similar, and may be a response to the success of the Telstra filter above.
How about creating a new filter that will only track and tag for Symantec? Then we would have a better idea of the pattern. --Andrewssi2 (talk) 00:42, 27 November 2014 (UTC)
Sure. Good idea. Ikan Kekek (talk) 01:10, 27 November 2014 (UTC)
Sorry to chime in late on this. These don't look anything like the edits that put the Symantec editor on our radar screen before - originally, the Symantec editor added demographic facts and figures to the "Understand" sections of various articles that was encyclopedic in tone and of dubious relevance to travellers, but not strictly in violation of policy. As well, he never engaged in copyvio or added long bullet-point lists of attractions or redlinked cities in "Go next". In short, this looks far more like the Telstra vandal's work, yet the IP address used belongs to Symantec, which perplexes me.
I'm not yet ready to conclude that the Telstra vandal and the Symantec user are one and the same - though IMO the possibility is much greater than before. I'd say use the usual ban procedures for now, until a longer pattern of Telstra vandal-like edits from Symantec IPs is established. If and when that happens, let's add the Symantec IP ranges to the Telstra vandal filter.
-- AndreCarrotflower (talk) 01:38, 27 November 2014 (UTC)
I have a very different memory of the previous edits than you do. I noticed the similarity very quickly, and it's very apparent now. Ikan Kekek (talk) 03:48, 27 November 2014 (UTC)
The strange (and probably incorrect) demographic figures have indeed disappeared. All other edits look similar enough.
Although it can't be proven 100%, I would guess that Telstra was frustrated by no longer being able to edit and moved on to a fixed internet terminal somewhere else in Australia.
I will at least tag Symantec for now. Then at least we can have a good holistic view of their editing pattern. Andrewssi2 (talk) 05:16, 27 November 2014 (UTC)
OK, I created a new filter just for this user. Please note that I named it 'MessageLabs' since that is the name of the ISP now.
The good news is that this ISP has a very easy IP range to catch (anything under 117.x.x.x).
Just to emphasize, this is just for tracking and tagging purposes for now. Andrewssi2 (talk) 05:34, 27 November 2014 (UTC)