Talk:Islamabad

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The entries for the following restaurants "Cafe @ Brabus" and "Luciano's pizza" are pure advertisement. They need to be changed!

You probably could have changed them yourself in the time it took to type this message :). Never mind, I will have a look. --(WT-en) Burmesedays 05:31, 31 March 2010 (EDT)

McDonalds[edit]

Sorry, but just not interesting.... if it's closed when someone arrives, then it should be promptly removed. fyi, from what i've read it's being threatened based on illegal construction in a park without proper permissions.... not because of pakistan's discomfort with the west. Seems that it's a pakistani-owned franchise anyhow, only western in the name/logo – (WT-en) cacahuate talk 20:09, 20 October 2010 (EDT)

Islamabad in Punjab[edit]

I think that Islamabad should be listed in the Punjab hierarchy for the following reasons:

  • It is a quiet, new, planned, concrete, grid city with relatively little of interest for travellers. It is not a the sort of mega-city that can captivate travellers for several days or weeks.
  • It is completely surrounded by Punjab and any trip to it would likely be taken as part of a wider Punjab experience (notably Rawalpindi). E.g. land in Islamabad, have a look round for a few hours, go somewhere else.
  • It is intended to be, and becoming, an integrated conurbation with Punjab's Rawalpindi.
  • The airport, while obviously vital to the whole country, serves northern Punjab domestically.

Overall I think it lacks sufficient draw in its own right and its transport connections make it a useful hub for that part of Punjab.Travelpleb (talk) 17:21, 28 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I somewhat agree with you. --Saqib (talk) 15:18, 11 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Yes Done --Saqib (talk) 21:45, 25 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I disagree . Islamabad is not in Punjab. Its completely separate Territory .Islamabad should not be listed in the Punjab [en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamabad Wikipedia on Islamabad]

Walking in the Margalla Hills[edit]

Tilla Charouni, the highest point in Islamabad.

The Margalla Hills are effectively foothills of the Himalayas – and are very easily accessible from Islamabad. However these are quite big, steep hills, and shouldn’t be underestimated – if you are planning on a walk up to the top of the first ridge (i.e. where the Monal restaurant is) then sturdy footwear, a large water bottle, and a change of t-shirt are necessary (good chance you’ll be drenched in sweat by the time you get to the top). Between March and November it is best to start walking in the early morning (before 7.30AM, or 6.30AM in the height of summer) as it is uncomfortably hot during the day.

There are many trails to choose from, some of which have been numbered by the city planners. The more popular walks are Trail 3, Trail 5 and the Zoo Trail. Google Earth gives a good way to orientate yourself before you set out.

Trail 1 – also known at the E7 or Faisal Mosque trail. Little used, in part because it is so difficult to find the trailhead. Head to the carpark to the rear of the Faisal Mosque, and look for a gate with a Margalla Tree Planting Project sign next to it. Head through the gate, take the first right, then right again (at a grey metal box with a hole in the top) through a small clearing, and turn left at the end. Walk north toward a large concrete water storage tank, and walk to the right of this on to a well defined path (GPS coordinates 33.734112°, 73.038421°) from here it should be plain sailing. Trail 1 winds its way up to the ridge, where you can turn right and reach the Pir Sohawa road, near the turn-off for Talhaar. Takes about 2 hours to get to the top. From Pir Sohawa road its a 20 minute walk to the Monal restaurant, and you can catch a taxi back in to town, or head down Trail 3 or the Saidpur village trail.

Trail 2 / Zoo trail – Trail 2 begins a little way up Pir Sohawa (just past the Jungle Shack drinks bar – GPS 33.7346°, 73.0545°) or you can start from the right of the entrance of the Islamabad Zoo. This is a good choice if you are looking for a 1-2 hour walk – the trail leads up to the Daman-e Koh viewpoint – if you want to continue walking a trail up to Cactus Ridge leads from next to the Police checkpoint near the entrance to Daman-e Koh. From Cactus Ridge you get a good view of where AirBlue flight 202 crashed.

Trail 3 - begins from Margalla Road, F-6/3 (the junction between Margalla Road & Atatürk Avenue). It is a little steep and strenuous in the first leg, which goes up to the Viewpoint and is about a 30 - 50 min. trek. After the Viewpoint you can continue on for another easy-going 45 - 60 mins and reach the Pir Sohawa, where you can choose from 3 restaurants for food, The Monal, Treehouse and Capital View Restaurant. This is the most popular walk, hence litter levels are high.

Trail 4 – this is a link trail between Trails 3 and 5

Trail 5 also begins from Margalla Road in F-5 (about 500m down from Trail 3 - opposite Judge's Enclave) and is initially an easier trail to climb. Trail 5 connects with Trail 3 (via Trail 4) and meets beyond Trail 3's viewpoint. If you continue on Trail 5 you eventually meet the Pir Sohawa road (33.7675°, 73.0771°) although it is possible to get lost on Trail 5 and veer too far east, ending up on the top part of Trail 6. Either way you'll eventually hit the Pir Sohawa road so it's difficult to get truly lost. From the top of Trail 5 it is 1.5 km to the top of Trail 3 – hence you can do a loop, taking 3 – 4 hours.

Trail 6 is in the valley to the east of Trail 5. Start from the Trail 5 carpark, walk parallel to the blocked off dual carriageway heading east and then head north when you see the mouth of the valley. Walk past a small cluster of houses and then you'll come across a sealed single track road, follow this for a short while and you'll end up on the path, and follow this up the valley, ascending to the left side. You'll eventually end up on the Pir Sohawa road. From here you can head west to the top of Trail 5. The Trail is without signposts or markers, is little used but very scenic.

Saidpur trail - follow the river through the village (including ducking though some back alleys) and you'll emerge in a valley and a trail that leads up to the Monal restaurant - and hence you can easily do a loop coming down Trail 3. Saidpur trail isn't much used so it largely free of litter.

Bari Imam trail – for the more adventurous this is a good hike. Drive to Nurpur Shahan (east of the government complexs beyond the end of Margalla Road) – head to a road junction at 33.7457°, 73.1050° and turn left, until you reach a turnoff for a small guesthouse at the start of the trail (33.7569°, 73.1135°). The walk starts with steps leading up to the Bari Imam cave, then you can continue up the steep hill behind, then traverse round to the Pir Sohawa road, where there are a few cafes and a hotel (33.7843°, 73.1107° – it is about 5 km from here to the Top of Trail 3 if you follow the road). You can return down the valley back to your starting point. Beware however that you pass into Khyber Paktunkwa on the walk and you may have to charm yourself pass some policemen.

Both Trail 3 & Trail 5 have large maps and guidance boards placed at the entrance.

For more walks and information buy a copy of Hiking Around Islamabad (available in Saeed Book Bank in F7 Markaz) or read through the original 1992 version.

I'm not sure whether such a long trial looks appropriate in the article. --Saqib (talk) 18:58, 15 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Page banners[edit]

I've cropped two new page banners. Both showing the most important structure of Pakistan and a symbol of Islamabad. --Saqib (talk) 09:02, 21 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I think the article's current banner looks nice. From the two above I would vote for the first one. ϒpsilon (talk) 09:10, 21 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Sector Names[edit]

As a formed resident of F-6/3 I am deeply sceptical of the sector naming scheme discussed in the article - "D for Diplomats" and so on. I never heard of any such theory and think it much more likely that this is a "post facto" rationalisation. Is there any sort of cite for this? —The preceding comment was added by 81.102.75.130 (talkcontribs)

This isn't Wikipedia, so if something probably isn't true and is of no importance to travellers, there's no reason for people to spend time researching it, let alone cite it. Instead, why don't you plunge forward and change it? Ikan Kekek (talk) 16:51, 30 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]