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I'm kind of wondering where to draw the arbitrary line between "Sukhumvit" and "North". I guess the most obvious marker would be where Sukhumvit's sois end, namely Petchaburi Rd? So everything north of that -- including Ratchadaphisek and RCA is then North.

Or maybe we could just define North as all the places where the tourists don't go but the Thais do =) (WT-en) Jpatokal 12:28, 9 Mar 2005 (EST)

Now there's a Din Daeng article, should North start from Lat Phrao/Kamphaeng Phet? That leaves Chatuchak and Central Plaza just in North. Most of Rachadaphisek would move to Din Daeng −(WT-en) Woodstone 17:13, 11 Aug 2005 (EDT)
I don't think you can plausibly call Victory Monument/Ari/Saphan Khwai as "Ratchadaphisek" or "Din Daeng"... how about moving this area to Bangkok/Phayonyothin, and using Vibhavadi-Rangsit as a convenient dividing line? Also note that there exists a Rangsit page for bits really north of Bangkok. (WT-en) Jpatokal 21:42, 11 Aug 2005 (EDT)
Do you mean to rename "North" to "Phahonyothin" (excluding Rachadaphisek) and leave "Din Daeng" as is (including Rachadaphisek)? That seems a good division to me. Be careful expressing Vibhavadi (RTGS Wiphawadi) as boundary because it crosses Phahonyothin (at Lat Phrao). −(WT-en) Woodstone 16:05, 12 Aug 2005 (EDT)
I mean rename North to Phahonyothin and leave the Din Daeng article content as is, but I still don't like Din Daeng as a name — I used to live there, and I don't think it can be used to cover the entire area that you mean by it. What do you think is wrong with using Rachadaphisek as the name? It's the main street, the one with the subway and the one with all the attractions in the area...
And yeah, you're right about the two streets crossing. Not sure what to do about it though, the two major points that could fit in either are Lad Phrao and Don Muang... (WT-en) Jpatokal 21:46, 12 Aug 2005 (EDT)
With North renamed to Phahonyothin, renaming Din Daeng to Rachadaphisek makes more sense. The only problem I see is that there is a part of Rachadaphisek alongside the Queen Sirikit Centre, which should not be included. However, since most people (even Bangkokians) don't know that and apart from the QSC there is nothing noteworthy there, this can perhaps be ignored. Next to Lad Phrao and Don Mueang, of course Chatuchak fits in Phahonyothin. −(WT-en) Woodstone 13:50, 13 Aug 2005 (EDT)

Both renames performed as discussed. −(WT-en) Woodstone 16:18, 20 Aug 2005 (EDT)

Ratchada rename[edit]

Wish I had seen this thread earlier or been contacted before you renamed things. I don't like the rename to Ratchaphisek district for the sole reason that Ratchaphisek road also runs south of Sukhemvit (around the queen S. convention center the name changes back from being Asoke). I've given people direction before to xxx on Ratchafa road and there has been confusion as to which stretch I was talking about.

The districts N. of Sukhemvit in order are Din Daeng, Huay Kwang, and Lad Phrao. Maybe we pick one of those, or possible use all 3.

Thoughts ???

It was mentioned in the discussion before the rename, that there is a southern piece of Ratchadaphisek along the Queen Sirikit Centre. However there are almost no other significant buildings/activities on that stretch of road and most Bangkokians do not even know it. Directing a taxi to Ratchadaphisek will certainly never bring you to that part. So it is a negligeable drawback. "North" was a very vague and locally not used term. A triple name is not convenient. Din Daeng comes closer, but does not fit well with the Huai Khwang part. −(WT-en) Woodstone 06:51, 27 Aug 2005 (EDT)


Reflections the restaurant actually predates the hotel. The restaurant is in a separate two-story building and is very much an independent landmark, not your typical anonymous hotel restaurant. (WT-en) Jpatokal 06:29, 14 October 2007 (EDT)

...and even after reading the website I'm pretty confused as to what exactly they're doing: are the renovations of the main bldg finished already? (WT-en) Jpatokal 06:35, 14 October 2007 (EDT)
I also wasted a fair bit of time chasing around that website - I got the impression they currently might not even be open for business at all. I'll be looking in on them about a fortnight from now. ~ 07:05, 14 October 2007 (EDT)

They've moved again!? Cripes. I'm no longer convinced the original restaurant is still operating, so I'll pull it out for the moment... (WT-en) Jpatokal 05:12, 9 May 2008 (EDT)

  • Reflections, Ari Soi 3, tel. +66-22703344, [1]. This happening two-floor restaurant decorated in kitschy primary colors packs in a good crowd nightly with its excellent Thai food. Dishes from 50 baht, although live seafood costs considerably more. Note that Reflections has moved from its previous location to a new location around the corner, about 300 meters down Ari Soi 3.


This is a great article. Whoever is writing the Ari section, did a wonderful job. I'd like to add a restaraunt. It's called Tang-O, it's on Phahonyothin 5, near Ari Soi 5. Actually I'm not sure if it's Phahonyothin 5 or Rama 6 Soi 30, as my address is the Rama rd one. I'm not sure where to weigh in as far as renaming. Could you call this part of town Phayathai? What about making small articles and naming them after the BTS naming conventions? Also, I am in this area if anyone needs any groundwork done. Thanks.--(WT-en) Skettios 02:58, 14 November 2007 (EST)

Ta! I lived in Ari for a while and loved it, and even wrote about it for an in-flight rag (story here).
As for district naming, this has been debated before, but to me Phayathai is the bit of Phahonyothin south of Victory Monument near the BTS station the same name. (WT-en) Jpatokal 05:15, 9 May 2008 (EDT)

Or Tor Kor, Thai price?[edit]

By its name may sound friendly-pricing, but de facto, the price there is 2-3 times more expensive than supermarkets, for the same quality of products. I'd recommend that it would be the last place for backpackers to buy food. Tops, Carrefour or Villa Market is much better.

Inaccurate map[edit]

The map that shows the Ari area is wrong - it has Reflections on it in the old location. Whoever uploaded it, can this be removed? The map's good otherwise. (WT-en) Dantilley 09:06, 5 February 2009 (EST)

I created a new map for Ari. --(WT-en) globe-trotter 14:19, 2 November 2010 (EDT)

Som Tum Bangkok[edit]

I also moved Som Tum Bangkok into the midrange section as it's about the same price range as Baan Mae Yui (mind you, both should be budget really by tourist standards, but the budget section seems to be for street-food prices only). (WT-en) Dantilley 09:05, 5 February 2009 (EST)


I've removed the entry;

  • <sleep name="Reflections" alt="" address="244/2-18 Pradipat Rd., Samsennai, Phayathai, Bangkok 10400 THAILAND" directions="near BTS Saphan Kwai" phone="+66-22703344" url="" checkin="" checkout="" price="from 1,850 to 3,450 baht" lat="" long="" email="" fax="+662-270-3359">Far and away the wackiest place to stay in north Bangkok, Reflections is a super-kitschy hotel. Each of the rooms has been designed by a different interior designer. Expect a full dose of clashing colors, bright plastic furniture and colorful mood lighting. Rooms from 2250 baht with breakfast. Note: Reflections moved in 2008, the new location is less convenient and has no longer the pool.


I can't see how it can remain accurate if the place has moved.. --(WT-en) inas 21:40, 18 June 2009 (EDT)

Huh? Take a look at the website -- every word of that description still applies. The warning is there to note that, if people have read eg. the glowing review in the New York Times, the pool is gone and the location isn't in the hip Ari neighborhood anymore. (WT-en) Jpatokal 22:31, 18 June 2009 (EDT)

Guesthouse listing closed[edit]

This guesthouse closed down for the time being:

  • <sleep name="Asha Guest House" alt="" address="4, Soi Intamara 3, Suthisarn Road, Phayathai" directions="" phone="+66-2-271-1417" url="" checkin="" checkout="noon" price="fan 321 baht, air-conditioning 482 baht" lat="" long="" email="" fax="">Basic, but is quite a fine guest house if you're willing to use a shared bathroom. It is clean and neat and some of the showers even have warm water. Another amenities offered are free wifi and a restaurant with a 60-baht continental breakfast buffet and various Thai and other dishes. Asha is currently closed, please contact Mike at Asha for updated information.</sleep>

--(WT-en) globe-trotter 19:17, 10 August 2010 (EDT)