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VFD discussion[edit]

Swept in from Project:Votes for deletion/July 2008#Viñales:

Viñales is a small town next to a national park, which has the same name. I moved this page to Parque_Nacional_de_Viñales. Maybe I should have moved the page rather than created a new page and deleted the old page? Sorry, I wasn't sure at first if there should be separate pages for the town and the national park. I can see an argument for the latter (e.g., most national park pages don't have nightlife sections!) but most tourists go there to hike in the day and salsa dance at night, so I put the town and national park on one page.--(WT-en) Chapayev 16:46, 29 June 2008 (EDT)

Viñales should definitely be about the town.. you can sleep there, and it's a popular destination. Whether or not we need an additional article for the National Park depends on how much there is to see, etc... if there's not a ton of stuff to write an article about the park and just a handful of sites, then the ones nearby the town can go in the "Get out" section of Viñales (city) and the others can go on the Pinar del Rio (province) page. But we should definitely move the city page back to Viñales  :) – (WT-en) cacahuate talk 18:22, 29 June 2008 (EDT)
If you look at the map you'll see that the town of Viñales is inside the national park. You can sleep in every national park in the United States, as far as I know, and all are popular destinations. There's "a ton of stuff" about the park waiting for someone to type it, on the photos I uploaded from the exhibits in the national park headquarters.--(WT-en) Chapayev 23:13, 29 June 2008 (EDT)
Then we should have articles on both. Viñales should be the article for the town... as for the park, what's the most common name (not necessarily the official name)? Wikipedia calls it Viñales Valley(WT-en) cacahuate talk 12:02, 1 July 2008 (EDT)

Well well well... I actually whipped out my Cuba guidebook and starting looking into it a bit more, and it turns out you were right!!! the valley is actually quite small, most of the accommodation is spread outside of the village, and I do believe that they should just be ONE article, covering the tiny town and whole valley. I think this article should then reside at Viñales, since that's definitely the most common name... I'll recombine them now, and move everything here. Yay – (WT-en) cacahuate talk 00:22, 2 July 2008 (EDT)