Wikivoyage:User ban nominations

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User bans are put into practical effect by using a Mediawiki software feature to block edits to any page (except pages in that banned user's user talk namespace) by the banned user.

Add nominations for user blocks to the list below, but please do so only after reviewing Project:How to handle unwanted edits. After a nomination has been made, the nominator is responsible for ensuring that appropriate notice is given on the allegedly delinquent User's Talk page of the nomination made here.

In general the preferred way of handling problem users is through the use of soft security. In the case of automated spam attacks the Project:Spam filter can also be a valuable tool for stopping unwanted edits.

For a history of older nominations see Project:User ban nominations/Archive.

User:Cactusflies22[edit]

Not a vandal, at least not in the traditional sense - more a case study as to why w:WP:CIR needs a local analogue. Take a look at his contribution history and you'll see what I mean. I'm not sure a userban is the right answer, but I'm puzzled as to what to do about this user, and I don't know of a better place to address concerns like this. Please advise. -- AndreCarrotflower (talk) 20:38, 19 August 2019 (UTC)

Compare the writing style:
I may be imagining things here, but I feel this is worth pointing out. I am taking the stance here that Telstra does not follow under our general vandal umbrella and therefore does not fit under Wikivoyage:Deny recognition. His motives seem to be different. That is why I am quoting him freely.
However, the IP used by Cactusflies matches the location of that user's contribution history, which points against vandalism — or messing around with the IP location. --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 21:05, 19 August 2019 (UTC)
And surprise, surprise! On Special:RecentChanges, Telstra has returned. Interesting timing? I think so. It's unlikely, but possible. I vote for a three-day ban on Cactusflies. --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 21:54, 19 August 2019 (UTC)
The post on Selfie's talk page is reminiscent of posts left on Traveler100's user page in 2016 by a certain User:DumfriesNative, who was also suspected of being the Telstra guy and subsequently banned. While I feel sorry for anyone in mental distress, and can personally testify that editing Wikivoyage can be therapeutic when facing down a mental illness, that should not come at the expense of the travel guide.
It may be way too late for this in other people's views, but now this person is talking again, and asking for us to work with him, could we try once more to do as he asks, and help him work with us rather than ban him on sight? That being on the condition that he continues communicating and sticks to using one account, rather than the usual dozens of burner accounts and IP addresses. I know the previous stack of evidence suggests he will revert to type, but what harm can it do to give him a chance? --ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 22:38, 19 August 2019 (UTC)
User talk:Cactusflies22. We'll see what happens.--ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 22:55, 19 August 2019 (UTC)
I wouldn't mind giving Telstra another chance if they are trying to engage and learn. We gave more chances to a couple of out-and-out racist vandals last year. If it doesn't work out, we'll go back to our old policy. Gizza (roam) 03:20, 20 August 2019 (UTC)
TT, thanks for what you have done. You have gotten him to respond, which probably rules him out as Telstra, unless Telstra operates with different faces at different times. --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 22:29, 20 August 2019 (UTC)
Yes, thank you indeed TT, and the fact that the user has responded and seems willing to accept counsel is a good sign. But let's remember that simply not being Telstra, or not being a vandal, is not enough. This user's behavior has been very strange, and we will need to monitor his edits closely to ensure that he has the ability to be a meaningful contributor to our site. Again, see w:Wikipedia:Competence is required to get a sense of what I mean (and by adding that link I'm aware that I'm risking another kerfuffle about citing Wikipedia-projectspace pages on Wikivoyage; in no way is this intended to mean I believe it applies as policy here, but it's a good rundown of the basic skills needed to edit any wiki). -- AndreCarrotflower (talk) 22:54, 20 August 2019 (UTC)
I agree, but given the comment of this user regarding his status, we should avoid watching in an offensive and obvious manner. Do you think we can conclude this discussion on that note? --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 23:29, 20 August 2019 (UTC)