Talk:Nature parks in Barcelona province

To usable

I reverted the upgrade to usable (see Wikivoyage:Park article status) and added standard headings (see Wikivoyage:Park article template).

As this isn't about one park, but many, not all information normally in those sections needs to be there, but the sections should be present and their content should point to the relevant other articles where appropriate.

I assume there are some generalities best handled here.

• Are the fees uniform at some level: all free, all require an entry/hiking/whatever fee (in what range?), all accept some one-year card, widely varying practices?
• Are the parks easily reached by public transport? Is parking an issue? Do you have to use specific trailheads? Are there visitor centres?
• Can you drive in the parks? Are there well-marked trails? What about biking or horse riding? Can you deviate from roads and trails?
• Where can you get souvenirs? Last-minute equipment (and food) completion?
• Are there restaurants or are you supposed to have your own food? What cooking facilities are there? Should you bring a camping stove?
• What about water?
• What accommodation is there? Camping sites? Is wild camping permitted?
• Is there dangerous wildlife? Are there railing and warnings or do you have to judge dangers yourself? Avalanches? Flash floods? Any other unobvious dangers?

Where there is variation, details should probably be handled in the individual parks, but it is unnecessary to repeat things in every article that can be handled here, especially issues that need to be explained in length. It is also good to get a general picture before starting to look at individual park articles.

–LPfi (talk) 11:16, 29 November 2023 (UTC)

Hi. I used the same style as in this page National parks . I've checked in African national parks and others I can't remember now.

The parks in Barcelona province are located different landscapes, so there are no uniform characteristics, except that all of them are free to enter.

answering the points you said:

• fees = all are free as far as I know. for sure on those where i created an specifi page.
• how to reach: depens on the park. visitor centres: depens on the park. trailhead: depends on the park
• driving=: depends on the park. it varies from open access ttrails to fully restricted.
• bikig, horse riding. : depedns on the park
• shopping: from no shops / restaurants / bars at all to a lot of shops and restaurants. No common guidelines.
• water: depends on the park. in the specific park I usually include water sources when available.
• Acomodation: goes from nothing to ones with hotels & camp sites.
• dangers: depends on the park. no letal animals in Barcelona province.

I've also checked [1]https://parcs.diba.cat/ which is the government organization handling the parks. Even they do not have a common page for the parks but specific pages for each parc.

So. I really don't know what to include under the headlines you included in the page, except a common sentence saying:It depends on the park. Mmorell (talk) 15:23, 29 November 2023 (UTC)

The section headings I added are the standard ones for park articles, and this one was classified as a park, see the box at the bottom of the page. If most of them are irrelevant, then we should perhaps not treat this as a park article, but as a travel topic article, like most "National parks in X" articles. I assume it then is usable ("Has at least a good overview of the topic, and some useful material under each heading"). I reverted my edits and change classification to travel topic article. Some of the things I listed might still be worth adding, even if they vary, perhaps in Understand instead as of separate sections. –LPfi (talk) 15:43, 29 November 2023 (UTC)

Hi . hello for your understanding.

I just realized now the importance of defining a page as park or as travel topic.

I'm happy to have lerned somthing new, and sorry for making you lose time with my mistakes. Mmorell (talk) 15:51, 29 November 2023 (UTC)

No problem. It has been nice reading. There are many themes that don't fit nicely in any of the article types, but the classification helps in the typical cases, and having also other articles classified helps with structure and statistics. For travel topics the status criteria are very subjective; when their status is of any importance, the articles are usually scrutinised looking at their general quality and completeness rather than the criteria. –LPfi (talk) 16:44, 29 November 2023 (UTC)