Talk:Palm Springs

Gay and Naturalists

When I removed the Gay and naturalists tag at the top of the page, I didn't realize I also removed the "Understand" section. Sorry. However, if you want the Gay and naked info in the article, then have a section in the body of the article called Lifestyles, and put it there along with all the other info that would fit there. To have it dangling from the top of the page looks like an AD ...not professional or encyclopedic. Pocketthis (talk) 16:17, 18 February 2017 (UTC)

Doesn't read like an ad to me, and it shouldn't look encyclopedic, as this is a travel guide, not an encyclopedia. It looks like you haven't been officially welcomed, so I'll give you our standard greeting for Wikipedians, which includes some brief remarks about the differences between the two sister sites. But I think that we should wait and see what others think before removing this part of the article. My feeling is that gays and naturists would want to know they're welcome in Palm Springs, because they aren't welcome everywhere. Ikan Kekek (talk) 00:33, 19 February 2017 (UTC)

• I understand that, however, you can make 'Lifestyles the 1st section. In fact it should be for a travel site. I'm sure once you really give it some thought, you may agree. Thanks -Pocketthis (talk) 03:02, 19 February 2017 (UTC)

That sentence could be moved to "Understand", and I'm happy to do that if you find it better there than in the lede - or if you know Palm Springs well, please create an "Understand" section that includes the sentence but puts it into a larger context. However, I'm not sure we want to ghettoize gays and naturists by segregating a single sentence in a "Lifestyles" section, which smacks to me of being like the term "Race records" of yesteryear (really code words for "Black records") and strikes me as being a code word for "Alternate lifestyles" or something worse than that. Ikan Kekek (talk) 03:09, 19 February 2017 (UTC)

• I can't do that because I don't understand the Understand section. lol. I am the photographer that shot the banner on the page. I didn't know someone had edited the photo to a banner and used it here. I bumped into it quite by accident while checking hits on the photo. I have lived on and off in the Springs for 30 years. I understand the gay and naturalist issue well, because my house is in the North end in Little Tuscany, and the gay population saved the business district in the north end by upgrading it, and opening new shops and restaurants. My neighbor across the street from me has nudist outdoor pool parties several times a year, and I've attended a few. I have no issues with these lifestyles. I just don't like the way the page presents them. I am an experienced editor on wikipedia, but I don't I really understand what's going on here well enough yet to make major edits. Just suggestions. The Understand section has some weather info in it. It's really poorly illustrated as a section and should be eliminated. You can start all of your destinations off with a Lifestyles section, and input all of the activities and likely participants as well. This would give the gay readers a quick view into an areas clientele, as well as the most utilized activities in any given city. Just an idea. Good luck with this site. It's a good idea waiting to be a great idea. - Pocketthis (talk) 17:06, 19 February 2017 (UTC)

I don't know Palm Springs, so I am in no position to write a good "Understand" section for the city. You are, once you get what that section is supposed to be and do. I'd suggest as a starting point looking at Wikivoyage:Small city article template, and then you could look at some of the Star-level city articles linked at Star articles. "Understand" should be fleshed out, definitely not deleted. Ikan Kekek (talk) 17:32, 19 February 2017 (UTC)

"Gaming" vs. "Gambling"

Do you think it would be more apt to call the sub-heading within the "Do" section "Gambling" instead of "Gaming"? I appreciate the term "gaming" can be used to describe legal "gambling". Although, I wonder if – in this context – readers would assume "gaming" refers to video games. --Stussll (talk) 19:35, 25 October 2019 (UTC)

I agree with you. "Gambling" avoids any ambiguity. Ikan Kekek (talk) 23:06, 25 October 2019 (UTC)