User talk:(WT-en) Ђорђе Д. Божовић

Hello Ђорђе Д. Божовић!

Welcome to Wikivoyage. Please take a sec to look at our copyleft and policies and guidelines, but feel free to plunge forward and edit some pages. Scanning the Manual of style, especially the article templates, can give you a good idea of how we like articles formatted. If you need help, check out Project:Help, and if you need some info not on there, post a message in the travellers' pub.

Thank you for contributing to Mediterranean Europe, Serbia and Montenegro and Zlatibor. Please read the Project:External links guidelines before adding more external links to Zlatibor. Also, are the images Image:Zlatibor.jpg, Image:Nosnjav.jpg, Image:Vodice.jpg, Image:Tornik - view.jpg, Image:Cajetina.jpg, Image:Kraljeve Vode.jpg and Image:Tornik.jpg all your own work? If not, do you have the rights to publish them? Please provide an image release note, for each image, that identifies the source of each image (e.g. photographer or copyright owner), date taken and permission to reuse under a CC-by-SA 1.0 licence or a more generous release. Images need to comply with the Project:Image policy or they will be deleted. -- (WT-en) Huttite 02:48, 18 Jan 2006 (EST)

Images

Several of the images you uploaded came from this photo gallery http://www.zlatibor.org/slike%20zlatibor/slike%20Zlatibor.htm/ - do you have permission to use them? If so, please publish your permission and other copyrigh information otherwise the images will be deleted according to the Project:Image policy. -- (WT-en) Huttite 03:23, 18 Jan 2006 (EST)

Image copyright

On (WT-en) my talk page you said:

I do have permission to use images from the web masters of that site () and these sites: and , but I don't know how to mark that. Could you also tell me how to mark that I am creator of an image? Btw, I see that you don't use any categories here (Special:Categories - there are none), and I'm wondering why? --(WT-en) George D. Bozovic 11:54, 22 Jan 2006 (EST)

Oh, yes, there's also another thing I'm wondering about. Why did you remove the external links from Zlatibor? I saw many articles containing external links on the bottom of the page. --(WT-en) George D. Bozovic 12:07, 22 Jan 2006 (EST)

My response

I will address each issue or question in the order they were asked.

1. Permission from web masters to use images. It is all very well to have a webmaster give you permission, but unless they are also the copyright holder then the permission is invalid. The website that some of your images came from does not say that the images can be re-used by anyone. Also, while the web masters may have given you permission to use the images, have they given everyone else in the world the same permission? Because that is what needs to be done if the images are published on Wikivoyage. See Project:Image policy for details.
2. Marking images with copyright details. On each image page there is a text page that allows you to give details about the image. You should say on that page, for each image. (a) Who holds the copyright. (or who is the photographer?) (b) Who gives permission to publish the image on Wikivoyage. (Who did you contact? Contact Details - Name, Address, Telephone, Website, Email, etc. - if they are not a Wikivoyage User) (c) Where the image came from, if it came from another website. (d) Date (year) of the image being produced. (e) The copyright release or reuse conditions that permits the image to be used on Wikivoyage. (f) What the image is about. Note: (a) and (b) should normally be the same people. See Project:Image policy for details.
3. If you created an image, the previous point can be addressed by a statement like [Image description] Taken by [username] on [date]. Released under [copyright licence/release description], though if you say you took the photograph then we will assume you understand that it is released under the CC-by-SA 1.0 licence. See Project:Image policy for details.
4. Categories. We do not use categories on Wikivoyage because they are not very useful for us and we haven't agreed on a use that is worthwhile, yet. See Project:Categories.
5. External links. We used to have an External links section but found that people kept putting all the wrong sorts of links in them and none of the right sort. This left our article incomplete and ugly, because they just became link farms because people did not understand how the external links should be presented. So we decided to remove the section from our standard templates. As we only did this recently and there were about 5000 articles with these sections in them already, we still haven't found them all and removed them, yet. (And people keep adding them because they haven't caught up with the change.) We can list all the attractions with a website link assoiated with each, so there is no need for a separate external links section - unlike Wikipedia. If someone is wanting to put an external link in that does not fit into our articles then either they are not listing the right information or we do not need the information anyway, because it doesn't meet our goals. As we can also be a printed guide, we need the information here, not at the end of a web-link, which cannot be seen on paperr or off-line. See Project:Article templates and Project:External links.

I hope that answers your questions. -- (WT-en) Huttite 16:10, 22 Jan 2006 (EST)

Images again

Hi George, we really need to get more information about these images you have uploaded. If we don't get the information, we will have no choice but to delete them.

We need

1. Precise information about who took who owns the copyright of the uploaded pictures.
2. A copy of the "permission" you have been given so that we can check it for common errors. We've had permission many times from people that, when carefully examined, was insufficient for our needs. The permission needs to either release the image for any use (i.e., release it into the public domain) or needs to release it under our copyright license or needs to release it under terms compatible with our license.

I hope you can provide this information soon! Thanks! - (WT-en) Colin 18:03, 31 Jan 2006 (EST)

False copyright info on photograph uploaded by you

I found this image http://en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Image:Zlatibor.jpg#file at Wikivoyage. Image info says that you posted image to Wikivoyage and that you are the author. Further, it is specified that image is available under Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 1.0.

This is all false information, except that you did upload the image.

I am an actual author of the image. I never gave you or anybody else any approval of using this image, thus I never gave approval of publishing this image at Wikivoyage nor I ever approved publishing this image under Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 1.0 licence. Finally, I was never informed that this image is published at Wikivoyage.

According to information on Wikivoyage, this image was published at January, 16th, 2006. Therefore you are using my intellectual property without my approval for more than three years. According to law I am entitled to fair compensation for usage of my intellectual property for this period of time.

Please provide sufficent information to whom I may send the bill. You may also send your offer for compensation which I may or may not accept.

Your payment for compensation does not give you any rights for further usage of this image. It will just cover your usage until now. You are requested to offer fair compensation for it's further usage, or to remove image from this site and stop using it anywhere else if you do use it.

Removing this image from the site now, does not relieve you from obligation to pay compensation for its usage up to now.

You may contact me at http://pedja.supurovic.net/kontakt/

If you asked me before publishing the image, my reaction would not be like it is now. —The preceding comment was added by (WT-en) 91.150.127.112 (talk • contribs)

Having noticed this comment, I have nominated all images uploaded by this user for deletion—if you would like to comment there, please do so. --(WT-en) Peter ^Talk 14:06, 23 April 2009 (EDT)

I should add too, that you may have better luck contacting this user via email, as he has not contributed here for several years. To do so, you would have to first register an account, then fill out the form at special:emailuser/Ђорђе Д. Божовић. --(WT-en) Peter ^Talk 14:09, 23 April 2009 (EDT)