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Votes for Deletion

This page lists articles, files and templates that are nominated for deletion. Any Wikivoyager can make a nomination or comment on any nomination. Nominations or comments should follow a rationale based on our deletion policy.

If our deletion policy leads towards a merge or redirect, then coordinate this on the discussion page of the article.

The purpose of this page is limited to the interpretation and application of our deletion policy. You can discuss what our deletion policies should be on the deletion policy discussion page.

Nominating[edit]

Add a {{vfd}} tag to the top of the article, file or template being proposed for deletion, so that people viewing it will be aware. Place the tag at the very top, before everything else.

Add a link to the article, file or template at the end of the list below, along with the reason why it is being listed for deletion. Sign your recommendation using four tildes ("~~~~"). List one article, file or template per entry.

If you're nominating a file for deletion, make sure it's actually located on the English Wikivoyage and not on Wikimedia Commons.

The basic format for a deletion nomination is:

===[[Chicken]]===
Not a valid travel article topic. ~~~~

Commenting[edit]

All Wikivoyagers are invited to comment on articles, files or templates listed for deletion. The format for comments is:

===[[Chicken]]===
* '''Delete'''. Not a valid travel article topic. TravelNut 25:25, 31 Feb 2525 (EDT)
* '''Keep'''. There is a town in [[Alaska]] called Chicken. ~~~~

When leaving comments you may elect to delete, keep, or redirect the article. If you recommend redirection, you may suggest where it should be redirected to. Any attempt to merge content from an article to some other destination must retain the edit history to comply with the attribution (CC BY-SA) requirements of the free license, so it may be possible to merge and redirect but not to merge and delete. Sign your comment using four tildes ("~~~~").

Deleting, or not[edit]

  • If, after 14 days of discussion, the consensus is to delete, an administrator may delete it.
  • If, after 14 days of discussion, the consensus is to redirect or merge, any Wikivoyager may do it. If you make a redirect, please check for any resulting broken redirects or double redirects.
  • If, after 14 days of discussion, the consensus is to keep, any Wikivoyager may remove any VFD notices from that page, and archive the deletion discussion.
  • If there is no consensus after 14 days, allow a further 7 days for discussion.
    • If, after the additional 7 days, there is no consensus, the page should be kept – any Wikivoyager may remove any VFD notices from that page, and archive the deletion discussion.
    • If, after the additional 7 days, there is a consensus, implement it in line with the first three points above.
  • When deleting a template, consider first replacing it wherever it's been transcluded, especially if it served a formatting function. You can do this by adding "subst:" before the template name. Once that's done, you can delete the template without affecting individual uses of it.
  • When deleting an article, check "What links here". Either remove the newly-broken links from the articles or point them somewhere else. Inbound redirects to a deleted page should either be deleted or redirected elsewhere.

Archiving[edit]

After you keep/redirect/merge/delete the article, file or template, move the deletion discussion to the Archives page for the appropriate month. The root Archives page has a directory. Note that it's the month in which the action was taken, rather than when the nomination was first posted, that should be used for the archived discussion; that way, recourse to the deletion log can lead subsequent readers right to the discussion (at least for the pages that were deleted).

When archiving, always make it clear to other editors what the outcome of the discussion was. This can be done by adding the result to the discussion in a separate edit from the one in which you remove the discussion from this page; or you can describe the outcome in the edit summary when you remove the discussion.

If the nominated article, file or template was not deleted, then place another (identical duplicate) copy of the deletion discussion on the discussion page of the article, file or template being kept or redirected.

See also:

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Yeonsu District[edit]

This article was created by one of the students in User:Piotrus's class. It's supposed to be a district of Incheon, but no discussion on districts has taken place, and IMO there isn't enough content in that city right now to need districts. There's been some back and forth with the student, who isn't communicating and doesn't appear to understand why other editors are reformatting their content... but I think edit warring over how to format this content is irrelevant because this shouldn't be an article to begin with. --Bigpeteb (talk) 16:50, 7 October 2019 (UTC)

  • Merge the travel content and redirect.--ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 17:33, 7 October 2019 (UTC)
  • Merge and redirect Ground Zero (talk) 19:40, 7 October 2019 (UTC)
  • Wait and see how things develop. Yeonsu District is next to Songdo, which has had an article since 2007. I expect that the article should be moved to Yeonsu and the breadcrumbs changed. We can decide later if it should be merged into Songdo (after the class has finished). The tourist information suggests there could be enough here. AlasdairW (talk) 19:45, 7 October 2019 (UTC)
  • Merge and redirect. As far as the student's behavior is concerned, this looks to me like a case of an inexperienced editor who (whether because of age, limited English proficiency, or whatever) was unable to understand the explanations we gave him of why the content they'd contributed was altered, and then responded by "kicking down the sandcastle" as it were, with the page blanking and so forth. It is true that Piotrus gave us advance notice that there'd be an influx of newbies, and I would agree that we owe it to him to assume good faith and roll with the punches a little more than usual, but that's not the same as writing a blank check. I don't think there's any place, on or off Wikivoyage, where behavior like that is appropriate, and if it continues, I don't think it follows that the escalating user block procedure would be unwarranted just because it's a member of Piotrus' class. It appears he's already been warned on his user talk page, at any rate. -- AndreCarrotflower (talk) 20:01, 7 October 2019 (UTC)
  • Easier to just move it to Incheon/Yeonsu. It might need to be merged & deleted later, but why worry about that now? Pashley (talk) 19:57, 7 October 2019 (UTC)
Incheon is not a Huge City, and I think it would be a bit ridiculous to start an entire districtification discussion (for a city without enough content to merit districtification, no less) just to avoid making waves vis-à-vis a temperamental newbie. -- AndreCarrotflower (talk) 20:01, 7 October 2019 (UTC)
Agreed, and if anything, it might be educational for their class to see how a wiki community responds when you try to create a page that doesn't fit the guidelines (or get into an edit war). --Bigpeteb (talk) 20:55, 7 October 2019 (UTC)
Exactly. If the subject of the class is how to edit wikis, we'd be doing the students a disservice if we were to pretend we tolerate this kind of behavior as a matter of course. -- AndreCarrotflower (talk) 21:34, 7 October 2019 (UTC)
We should also consider Songdo, which is less than 1 mile away, and could also be considered to be a district of Incheon. The student didn't make Yeonsu part of Incheon, that was a later edit by User:Traveler100. I think the student could be confused as to why Songdo is ok, but Yeonsu isn't. I don't know the situation on the ground, so I am not sure whether it is valid to consider these as separate cities, or as districts of Incheon. AlasdairW (talk) 22:35, 7 October 2019 (UTC)
  • Merge and redirect. Ikan Kekek (talk) 01:51, 8 October 2019 (UTC)
  • M and R per the rest. It might be notable eventually like Songdo, but the student has not done sufficient work to make it clear. I'd suggest also to copy the article as it is to her sandbox in case she wants to work on it there. Unfortunately it is one of the students who almost never speaks to me so I am still unsure what she wants to do and how she feels about this issue :( Last class I suggested to her that she should improve the article on Incheon for now. --Piotrus (talk) 02:39, 8 October 2019 (UTC)

Done; the page has been merged and redirected. I also left a very long message for J2dms09 on their User Talk page. Perhaps Piotrus will be able to get the class to look at it and discuss it to see what they can learn. --Bigpeteb (talk) 19:14, 9 October 2019 (UTC)

I think that was pretty much exactly the ideal course of action. Thank you, Bigpeteb, and hopefully Piotrus does follow up with his students. -- AndreCarrotflower (talk) 19:33, 9 October 2019 (UTC)