Wikivoyage:Votes for deletion

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Votes for Deletion

This page lists articles, files and templates that are nominated for deletion. Any Wikivoyager can make a nomination or comment on any nomination. Nominations or comments should follow a rationale based on our deletion policy.

If our deletion policy leads towards a merge or redirect, then coordinate this on the discussion page of the article.

The purpose of this page is limited to the interpretation and application of our deletion policy. You can discuss what our deletion policies should be on the deletion policy discussion page.

Nominating[edit]

  1. Add a {{vfd}} tag to the top of the article, file or template being proposed for deletion, so that people viewing it will be aware. Place the tag at the very top, before everything else.
  2. Add a link to the article, file or template at the end of the list below, along with the reason why it is being listed for deletion. Sign your recommendation using four tildes ("~~~~"). List one article, file or template per entry.
  3. If you're nominating a file for deletion, make sure it's actually located on the English Wikivoyage and not on Wikimedia Commons.

The basic format for a deletion nomination is:

===[[Chicken]]===
Not a valid travel article topic. ~~~~

Commenting[edit]

All Wikivoyagers are invited to comment on articles, files or templates listed for deletion. The format for comments is:

===[[Chicken]]===
* '''Delete'''. Not a valid travel article topic. TravelNut 25:25, 31 Feb 2525 (EDT)
* '''Keep'''. There is a town in [[Alaska]] called Chicken. ~~~~

When leaving comments you may elect to delete, keep, or redirect the article. If you recommend redirection, you may suggest where it should be redirected to. Any attempt to merge content from an article to some other destination must retain the edit history to comply with the attribution (CC BY-SA) requirements of the free license, so it may be possible to merge and redirect but not to merge and delete. Sign your comment using four tildes ("~~~~").

Deleting, or not[edit]

  • If, after 14 days of discussion, the consensus is to delete, an administrator may delete it.
  • If, after 14 days of discussion, the consensus is to redirect or merge, any Wikivoyager may do it. If you make a redirect, please check for any resulting broken redirects or double redirects.
  • If, after 14 days of discussion, the consensus is to keep, any Wikivoyager may remove any VFD notices from that page, and archive the deletion discussion.
  • If there is no consensus after 14 days, allow a further 7 days for discussion.
    • If, after the additional 7 days, there is no consensus, the page should be kept – any Wikivoyager may remove any VFD notices from that page, and archive the deletion discussion.
    • If, after the additional 7 days, there is a consensus, implement it in line with the first three points above.
  • When deleting a template, consider first replacing it wherever it's been transcluded, especially if it served a formatting function. You can do this by adding "subst:" before the template name. Once that's done, you can delete the template without affecting individual uses of it.

Archiving[edit]

After you keep/redirect/merge/delete the article, file or template, move the deletion discussion to the Archives page for the appropriate month. The root Archives page has a directory. Note that it's the month in which the action was taken, rather than when the nomination was first posted, that should be used for the archived discussion; that way, recourse to the deletion log can lead subsequent readers right to the discussion (at least for the pages that were deleted).

When archiving, always make it clear to other editors what the outcome of the discussion was. This can be done by adding the result to the discussion in a separate edit from the one in which you remove the discussion from this page; or you can describe the outcome in the edit summary when you remove the discussion.

If the nominated article, file or template was not deleted, then place another (identical duplicate) copy of the deletion discussion on the discussion page of the article, file or template being kept or redirected.

See also:

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November 2018[edit]

The Most Beautiful Villages of France[edit]

This is just an organization with a bunch of villages of members. It's not any official definition of what's a nice village. Plus, we don't have any other article like this, while I'm sure there are similarly nice towns and villages throughout Europe and beyond.

To add to this, nearly all the villages listed are redlinks. So this article is basically a list of redlinks based on some organization's choice of "beautiful villages". This article either needs a huge renovation or should be deleted; it doesn't do much to advertise Wikivoyage. --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 05:07, 3 November 2018 (UTC)

  • Keep. This strikes me as a useful article for travellers, which could become significantly more useful with a little work. One of Wikivoyage's weaknesses is that it can be hard to find good rural destinations other than nature reserves/parks. I think there are lots of travellers who would like to visit a cute little village in France; without this article I'm not sure where they would look, as these places are all too small to be listed in high-level region articles.
The redlinks are unfortunate, and I would suggest partly mitigating that problem by adding a nearby city or town from which each village can easily be visited. It would also be helpful to add coordinates and a map. —Granger (talk · contribs) 05:52, 3 November 2018 (UTC)
  • We could eventually have articles for all of them. I think that would be totally fine. Ikan Kekek (talk) 09:27, 3 November 2018 (UTC)
  • I think that would be great. If we can find similar associations in other large countries, that would be great too. I would be really grateful for a "Most Beautiful Villages in China" list if such an organization exists. —Granger (talk · contribs) 09:39, 3 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Keep. It's unrealistic that we add articles for all those villages (likely there isn't much to see in them, other than that they are picturesque), but we could at least add wikidata+markers+maybe even wikipedia links. I'd say it's a useful article, if one travels through France and wants to take a stop off the highway. If one knows about the article... -- andree.sk(talk) 10:16, 3 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Comment. It's a bit listy in its current form; it mentions a long list of villages but doesn't provide any individual description for each village nor does it explain why a particular village is notable or was chosen for inclusion. I think this could be a viable article, if it were expanded. K7L (talk) 18:07, 3 November 2018 (UTC)
  • This feels a bit like the membership list of a marketing body. I know that there are some selection criteria, but I am not sure how tough these are, and I have not found any evidence of villages failing to get on the list - I think it is completely different from the UNESCO selection. It could be expanded to a useful article, but in its present form I am not sure about it. AlasdairW (talk) 22:45, 3 November 2018 (UTC)
Considering that there's a membership fee (a set amount per inhabitant, according to the membership application form on the website) to be on this list, I'd be inclined to agree. We don't usually give free advertising to any specific tourism groups, do we? --Robkelk (talk) 17:29, 4 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Keep, make all the villages redirect to this article for now, & turn the redlinks in the article into listings with WP links where possible. If we later get more info on some villages, consider making articles for them. Pashley (talk) 13:04, 14 November 2018 (UTC)
I'm not sure I like the idea of redirecting all the villages to this article. I'd prefer to redirect each village to the article about a nearby town, keeping the region structure/geography as our primary way of organizing destinations. A few of the villages already have their own articles, of course. —Granger (talk · contribs) 02:49, 16 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Keep, but I would suggest we shift the focus (and possibly the name) of this article. I strongly agree with others that we need more articles like these, with suggested rural destinations. However, Robkelk makes a valid point. I think it's easy enough to tackle the issue of this list being a paid membership organisation. We can simply use it as a starting point, but add other picturesque villages as we see fit over time. To avoid problems we should probably rename it, though. JuliasTravels (talk) 13:04, 15 November 2018 (UTC)