User talk:SHB2000

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The Signpost: 20 November 2023[edit]

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Tech News: 2023-47[edit]

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Tech News: 2023-48[edit]

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Wikipedia Editor on Wikivoyage[edit]

Hi SHB2000

I've noticed a Wikipedia editor has started making changes to Sydney articles basing changes off government articles and maps and has tried to merge all the information that we tried to declutter on the Eastern Suburbs page. I've reverted changes back to make things neater as we intended them to be under the grounds that this is a travel guide and things here are simplified for traveller purposes and do not have to be based off strict government sourcing as this is not a government website nor is it Wikipedia. If you wish to put all that information back on the one Eastern Suburbs page and make it as large as it used to be I will not undo the changes again. It's your call, just thought I should discuss things with you first. Voyage2023 (talk) 16:06, 28 November 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hi, I think such discussions should be kept on the relevant talk pages as the regions are not set in stone. Best, --SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta) 20:22, 28 November 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Please see previous discussion at e.g. Talk:Sydney/Eastern suburbs and Talk:Sydney/South-Eastern Suburbs Daceyvillain (talk) 23:12, 28 November 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
In particular note that for travel/tourism, I don't think it is helpful to push the "South Eastern Suburbs" concept, as the term is almost never used. At Wikipedia, it was considered original research and the South Eastern Suburbs page was deleted because of the No Original Research policy there. Daceyvillain (talk) 23:18, 28 November 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I'm not an eastoid, but the only time I've ever seen "southeast" being used for that area was the CSELR. If it doesn't help travellers, though, as evidenced, it seems otherwise. --SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta) 07:06, 29 November 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I haven't been pushing anything as I don't edit Wikipedia and I'm not in disagreement that suburbs like La Perouse are definitely within Sydney's East. On Wikivoyage it's a bit different to Wikipedia where it's more about informing travelers about different areas regardless of the information being simplified/summarised or as you put it 'original research'. It's all about making it easier for tourists to understand and explore different sections.
I have been intrigued now by this concept however of people who are in contrast as to what is and isn't the eastern suburbs. I did a little bit of digging and found these two articles online.
The first one seems to be more challenging of the concept of Sydney's eastern suburbs looking at it from geography, sport, and politics. The second article is more information based describing the different areas and contains references at the end with the Wikimedia maps.
At any rate I feel all of these suburbs are Sydney's East but obviously suburbs like Double Bay and Malabar aren't within walking distance to each other nor are they linked through transport so I figured breaking it down made it easier to understand. Merging it back onto one page works for me too just so long as it's articulate and easy to understand. I feel the districts map is definitely still applicable and useful for the Eastern Suburbs page. Voyage2023 (talk) 10:17, 29 November 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Cape Horn[edit]

To answer your q, accidental I think... or at least I can't remember doing that and I have no idea what I was thinking at the time. Brycehughes (talk) 09:54, 30 November 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

No probs, mate. You know, I've probably made similar blunders before but they might have gone unnoticed. It just happens :-). --SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta) 10:20, 30 November 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]