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Tech News: 2021-14[edit]

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  • Editors can collapse part of an article so you have to click on it to see it. When you click a link to a section inside collapsed content it will now expand to show the section. The browser will scroll down to the section. Previously such links didn't work unless you manually expanded the content first. [1]

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  • Advanced item The citoid API will use for example 2010-12-XX instead of 2010-12 for dates with a month but no days. This is because 2010-12 could be confused with 2010-2012 instead of December 2010. This is called level 1 instead of level 0 in the Extended Date/Time Format. [2]
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  • Advanced item PAWS can now connect to the new Wiki Replicas. Cross-database JOINS will no longer work from 28 April. There is a new way to connect to the databases. Until 28 April both ways to connect to the databases will work. If you think this affects you and you need help you can post on Phabricator or on Wikitech.

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19:41, 5 April 2021 (UTC)

@Ikan Kekek, Mx. Granger, 82.3.185.12, Vaticidalprophet, ThunderingTyphoons!: - Re. the pub and the dates, The tech update that I received a week ago. SHB2000 (talk) 23:17, 10 April 2021 (UTC)

That’s not what I meant. What I meant was whenever I update a template, it replaces subst:#time:Y-m-d with 2021-04-11 or whatever the date is. 82.3.185.12 16:19, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

This Month in GLAM: March 2021[edit]

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A barncompass for you![edit]

Sydney Opera House, botanic gardens 1.jpg The Aussie Wikivoyage Barncompass
This Barncompass is to show appreciation for your great work on Aussie articles on Wikivoyage. --82.3.185.12 11:46, 12 April 2021 (UTC)
You gave me one so I thought I’d return the favour. :) 82.3.185.12 11:46, 12 April 2021 (UTC)
Thanks at lot. Really appreciate this. My third barncompass. SHB2000 (talk) 11:48, 12 April 2021 (UTC)
You’re welcome! Enjoy the rest of your day! 82.3.185.12 11:51, 12 April 2021 (UTC)
Yeah, I better go and sleep soon. It's currently 21.53 here. SHB2000 (talk) 11:53, 12 April 2021 (UTC)
Oh, ok. Goodnight then! 82.3.185.12 11:56, 12 April 2021 (UTC)
And good afternoon to you. Been waiting 3 mins to post this :) SHB2000 (talk) 12:00, 12 April 2021 (UTC)
Until I realised just now that daylight savings has begun. SHB2000 (talk) 12:00, 12 April 2021 (UTC)
Yeah, it’s 13:05 now. 82.3.185.12 12:05, 12 April 2021 (UTC)
Our clocks have just gone back an hour now :) SHB2000 (talk) 12:06, 12 April 2021 (UTC)

┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘ I thought you were going to bed now. 82.3.185.12 13:00, 12 April 2021 (UTC)

I'm a person who doesn't go to bed til 2300h. SHB2000 (talk) 00:17, 13 April 2021 (UTC)
I see. 82.3.185.12 07:48, 13 April 2021 (UTC)
or even 2330h. SHB2000 (talk) 07:49, 13 April 2021 (UTC)

Date[edit]

You forgot to change the date. I changed it for you. 82.3.185.12 13:18, 12 April 2021 (UTC)

Thanks, I’m not used to editing on mobile so it’s easy to forget. Take care SHB2000 (talk) 13:27, 12 April 2021 (UTC)
Thank you! 82.3.185.12 07:46, 13 April 2021 (UTC)

Wikidata weekly summary #463[edit]

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    • EditSum, a user script which allows to attach custom summary text to any label/statement/sitelink/etc. modification.
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    • Finishing up the work on the first version of the Query Builder. We still need to get the security review before we can deploy it properly. Current state can be tested on the test system.
    • Finalized the dashboard to see the number of (active/very active) editors split by namespace. See the graphs at the bottom of this dashboard.
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Facebook pages[edit]

I agree with your edit here, but only because the hotel has its own website. If a business has no website but has its own Facebook page, we link it. Ikan Kekek (talk) 05:38, 14 April 2021 (UTC)

@Ikan Kekek: I've done that before. Can't remember which article though. By the way, done wikivoyage have it's own insta page? SHB2000 (talk) 05:46, 14 April 2021 (UTC)
I doubt it. Commons is the Wiki with the photos, but I'm guessing there's no Wiki with an Instagram page. I could be wrong, though. Ikan Kekek (talk) 06:42, 14 April 2021 (UTC)
Checking it, there's only bn and ru pages. Plus wikitravel. SHB2000 (talk) 06:44, 14 April 2021 (UTC)

Unilateral policy changes[edit]

Making a policy change without discussion and implementing it across a bunch of articles is always a bad idea. I'm sure that you believe you're right — and you very well may be right — but the approach you've taken does kind of say to everyone else that any views they may have on the subject are irrelevant, which leaves a bad taste.

I know you mean well, and you are a very constructive contributor. That is why I am addressing this to you on your talk page. Ground Zero (talk) 00:14, 15 April 2021 (UTC)

Attribution[edit]

When using text from Wikipedia, I've been following the advice at Wikivoyage:Cooperating with Wikipedia, I.d.,

"When copying text from Wikipedia (or any other CC-SA site) you must provide attribution to the original authors. Attribution is generally provided by pasting the URL for the source article version (see below) into the "edit summary" box, and/or you can use the Wikipedia template."

I've been pasting the URL into the edit summary box. The way I read the passage above, this is sufficient. Also using the Wikipedia template is fine to do, but I don't think it is necessary under the policy. Do you disagree? Ground Zero (talk) 01:02, 16 April 2021 (UTC)

Just incase. I mean, there's no harm in not doing it but I'll do it otherwise what's the purpose of the template. SHB2000 (talk) 05:09, 16 April 2021 (UTC)

Admins' watchlists[edit]

What do you mean by "'I would expect admins, at least, to monitor this page.' - But no, only a non admin is monitoring this page"? The page is on the list of pages admins are explicitly asked to monitor, and several admins have commented on the thread above your comment. I haven't commented in the thread as I have little to say for the moment. (Except that: You can disable e-mail from named users, if that's any help.) –LPfi (talk) 06:18, 16 April 2021 (UTC)

Very sorry about ignoring the rest of all the admins. As User:Ikan Kekek said, it's frustrating being constantly attacked. Btw, thanks for the suggestion. I only haven't disabled it incase if User:82.3.185.12 chooses to create an account one day. SHB2000 (talk) 06:45, 16 April 2021 (UTC)
I think there is a value in being able to send and receive e-mail. The preferences item I suggested allows disabling e-mail from a certain user (or a list of users). It does not help against somebody creating new accounts all the time, and non-logged in users cannot send wikimail anyhow. –LPfi (talk) 05:50, 17 April 2021 (UTC)
Additionally, I'm not going to disable it because for the 98% of good faith users, I'm not going to ruin it for them because of the 2% minority that ruins and destroys Wikimedia Projects. By disabling it, I'm just letting the vandal/harasser win. SHB2000 (talk) 12:43, 17 April 2021 (UTC)
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