User talk:Ken Heaton

Hello, Ken Heaton! Welcome to Wikivoyage.

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Also, please have a look at welcome, business owners and don't tout (specifically, Wikivoyage:Pronouns). I edited your listing to eliminate 1st-person pronouns and the inclusion of the default town name in your address. Your listing was not touty, and as you can see, I edited very little; it's just that wikis are collectively-authored, so there's no "I" in "wiki" (well, there are two of them, but I hope you get my meaning).

Happy editing!

Ikan Kekek (talk) 21:48, 10 January 2016 (UTC)

Hello again. In this edit, you used "we are" numerous times and also used Unnecessary Capitalization of words that are not proper nouns. Again, please read don't tout. And because it would take a lot of unpaid time for a volunteer editor like me to detout the listings at issue, I will wait a while for you to edit them accordingly, yourself, and if you do not, I am likely to feel impelled to simply delete them for the time being. I hope you understand. Ikan Kekek (talk) 22:14, 10 January 2016 (UTC)

Sorry, I didn't notice your edits and comment before I piles a bunch more stuff into this entry. I've now read your suggestions and have trimmed and edited a bit. I'm not sure what a proper noun is for certain so I just removed most capitalization. Are the contents still to wordy for a wiki voyage entry in your opinion? I'll go have a look at some of the resources you included in the first entry above. —The preceding comment was added by Ken Heaton (talk • contribs)

No problem, and thanks for checking here. I "signed" for you — on talk (discussion) pages only, it's customary to sign by typing 4 tildes (~) in a row at the end of your post. Proper nouns are names like Burger King, Barnes & Noble, Barack Obama, not words like "antiques", "hotel" or "restaurant", when those aren't themselves part of specific names. I'll check back a bit later to see how your editing is going. Thanks a lot for adding good content and for working collaboratively.

All the best,

Ikan Kekek (talk) 23:35, 10 January 2016 (UTC)

Your edits were very good, thank you. I actually added back a little and made other little tweaks. We're good to go, in my opinion. Please add any other listing or information (within reason :-) ) that you think a visitor might find of interest. Ikan Kekek (talk) 23:42, 10 January 2016 (UTC)

Pagebanner

Your pagebanner will probably have to be replaced, though, as it's some kind of collage and not a picture of an actual view. Have a look at Wikivoyage:Image policy. I'll start a thread about the pagebanner on Talk:Glen Williams and see what others say. Ikan Kekek (talk) 23:44, 10 January 2016 (UTC)

Pagebanner: Sorry, unfortunately I live 2000 km away east on Cape Breton Island and don't get to Glen Williams very often these days. That collage is the best I could make up out of what photos of mine I had. No single photo of mine would work in that aspect ration and convey anything useful about the character of the hamlet of Glen Williams so I thought I'd try that collage of village homes to see how that would work. We'll see what transpires in the thread. Ken Heaton (talk) 23:50, 10 January 2016 (UTC)

Images of businesses

Hello Ken, just a quick pointer to Talk:Glen Williams. I edited the listing for the Copper Kettle pub a bit to be more in line with our don't tout and listing policies, and removed the image in one go. Our image policy discourages pictures of businesses in principle, although some exceptions are made. Please do join the conversation there if you feel, after reading the policy, that one of the business images does belong. Thanks for your work on Glen Williams! The article is coming along nicely. JuliasTravels (talk) 21:50, 20 December 2016 (UTC)

JuliasTravels: Actually, if you were to remove all photos of the historic and perhaps quietly elegant buildings that also happen to house businesses in Glen Williams you wouldn't have many things left to show. It really is a very small hamlet that has taken on a touristic flavour in the years since I grew up there. These buildins are part of its charm, in my opinion. If it is important to you to remove my photo of the Copper Kettle, please note, that building that was the hamlet's General Store and Post Office for more than a century (built in 1852 by Charles Williams) I'll accept your judgement but I really think it should remain in the article.

The other building shown, Reeve & Clarke Fine & Rare Books, is an antiquarian book business which sells second-hand books (most are first editions) and ephemera such as posters and cards, arranged as if they were in a museum. Reeve & Clarke Fine & Rare Books are located in the storefront of Laidlaw House and the Frazier Shop in which Timothy Eaton (of Eaton's fame) first worked in retail. It was the first of January 1847 when Charles Williams sold village lot 49, east of the Credit River to Thomas B. Frazier for £25 sterling. Although there were earlier commercial buildings in the Glen, they were eventually replaced, leaving Reeve & Clarke Books, in this frame roughcast store on the comer of Main and Prince Streets, as the oldest commercial building in the village. Ken Heaton (talk) 22:04, 20 December 2016 (UTC)

If it really feels at least as much like a museum as it does like a standard small-town antiquarian bookstore, that should be stated and substantiated with specifics in its listing (as to how many prints are hung under glass or in cases under glass, how often the exhibits are changed, etc.). I'm satisfied with your take on the Copper Kettle, but again, that interesting history needs to be in its listing. Ikan Kekek (talk) 02:31, 21 December 2016 (UTC)