Wikivoyage:Go-between reports/German/German Wikivoyage Report for 2 July 2006

Progress

Progress in general

There have been an estimated 492 articles created on DE since March 3, 2006.

Raw stats register a total of 6937 pages of which 2339 are actual articles. Thus far there have been 42204 views and 51894 edits. There are 765 registered users of which 6 are administrators.

Focus since last report

Unknown

Focus during the next month

Hopefully, a new go-between will be found since the resignation of (WT-en) Hansm from the unofficial go-between and an administrator position.

• Making the DE site user friendly will need to be a goal over the next few months.
• Start a program to retain users.
• Translate various press releases (IB) into German instead of referring users to the English site for details.

Special issues

• de:Benutzer:(WT-de) Hansm or User:(WT-en) Hansm has requested to no longer have administrator privileges be revoked. Evan followed through with the request.
• New users are not greeted. This must begin for users to feel like they are wanted.
• Currently, there is no go-between. (WT-en) Andrew Haggard (Sapphire) has volunteered to become a defacto go-between provided German users will permit his less than par German.
• Few administrators are still active on the project. One administrator has not been active since August 2005, another since March 2006, and another since April 2006. (WT-en) Evan, (WT-de) DerFussi, and (WT-de) Steffen M. are currently the only administrators that have been active within the past month.

Conclusion

DE has been in some trouble for quite a while with few admins contributing to the project. With help from the EN community and revitalizing the DE base increase in contributions and edits can make DE viable.

Comments

• It would be great if Evan could introduce these template buttons ( City | Major City | City District | Region | National Park | Phrasebook | Disambiguation | Talk Page ) for new articles on the German-language Wikivoyage, too. -- (WT-en) Steffen M. 05:02, 3 July 2006 (EDT)

I'll find that and do it for you. Thanks for correcting my translations and beginners DE mistakes. -- (WT-en) Andrew Haggard (Sapphire) 05:13, 3 July 2006 (EDT)

• There are still problems with the Template:IstIn. Sometimes the geographical hierarchy or a part of it disappears on the sites. Is this a general problem or just a bug on de? -- (WT-en) Steffen M. 05:02, 3 July 2006 (EDT)
  • It's a general problem. For some odd reason, it's critical that the isIn tag appear before the article status. (WT-en) Jpatokal 05:30, 3 July 2006 (EDT)
• I never saw a red blinking light as announced on Project:5 March 2006. -- (WT-en) Steffen M. 05:02, 3 July 2006 (EDT)
  • For some reason it doesn't work in Konqueror. I haven't looked at Evan's code, so I don't know why. -- (WT-en) Mark 00:57, 6 July 2006 (EDT)
    • My guess is that it's a JavaScript difference. --(WT-en) Evan 01:10, 6 July 2006 (EDT)
  • My guess is that it has something to do with the period at the end of your username. There have been some others who have problems -- User:(WT-en) Ravikiran r posted a bug on Project:Bug reports. --(WT-en) Evan 01:10, 6 July 2006 (EDT)
• It would be a good idea to separate the ToC discussion from the German-language Wikivoyage. -- (WT-en) Steffen M. 05:02, 3 July 2006 (EDT)
  • What does this mean? I thought that German-speakers wanted to be part of this conversation. --(WT-en) Evan 01:03, 6 July 2006 (EDT)
    • from -> for. I think he wants to say that the German users want to decide for themselves whether or not to adopt the ToC on the right for de:Wikivoyage independent of whether en: users accept the change or not. — (WT-en) Ravikiran 02:51, 6 July 2006 (EDT)
      • That's how I understood his comments too. I have no problem with DE users deciding themselves the ToC issue. I'm going to propose a few changes to policy over there, which will reflect EN's policy. I especially think the external links policy on DE needs to be changed. -- (WT-en) Andrew Haggard (Sapphire) 02:56, 6 July 2006 (EDT)
        • I agree with that, then! --(WT-en) Evan 08:55, 6 July 2006 (EDT)
• According to Stammtisch#Neuer Go-Between gesucht, I'm currently not interested in superseding Hansm as an official go-between, so we have to wait until there is a volunteer. -- (WT-en) Steffen M. 05:02, 3 July 2006 (EDT)
  • After thinking about it I'll do it full time provided you can help me a little bit. I'll resign if someone does come along and wants to take the position. -- (WT-en) Andrew Haggard (Sapphire) 05:15, 3 July 2006 (EDT)
  • I think that sounds great. --(WT-en) Evan 01:03, 6 July 2006 (EDT)
• Andrew, thanks a lot for taking care of this report; it's been needed for a while. I've started emailing the admins who haven't participated in a while and I'll start downgrading their accounts as I hear from them, per policy. I'd like to see some more admins come up, but we can take it as they come. --(WT-en) Evan 01:14, 6 July 2006 (EDT)
  • You're welcome. I'll keep these coming within the first week of every month. Regarding admins did you see that (WT-de) Mistoffeles declined the administrator nomination? Would it be wise for me nominate myself? I think I could handle the tasks of go-between reports without the privileges, but if I have the magic revert button it might be nice or privileges to edit some of the MediaWiki templates if the need arises. -- (WT-en) Andrew Haggard (Sapphire) 02:09, 6 July 2006 (EDT)
    • I suggest that maybe you should wait a month or so. It would help if you've been part of the de: community for a little longer, I'd guess. --(WT-en) Evan 08:33, 6 July 2006 (EDT)