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Where to get phone plan in Italy[edit]

I will be in Italy soon, and I'm wondering whether it would be fine to look for a store selling a SIM or eSIM for a phone plan in Fiumicino or whether the same plan would be cheaper if purchased in Rome. Anyone know? Asked by: Ikan Kekek (talk) 09:21, 5 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Ikan Kekek: You might get a better answer on it:Wikivoyage:Ufficio turistico. --SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta) 09:27, 5 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Good idea. I'll try posting there. Ikan Kekek (talk) 16:59, 5 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Just to let everyone know, my partner and I got data-only plans from Holafly while we were in Italy, and then when we got to Germany, we found out that it would have been no problem to get an Italian phone number, because the EU forbids charging more for a call from a phone number of another EU country to a German phone than between phone numbers. In any case, having data was useful, though the connection was spotty outside, but we've been happy with our phone-and-data O2 plans in Germany, with the exception that calls to the U.S., other than on programs like WhatsApp, are completely impossible on our plan. For the record, our Holafly plan was via an eSim but our O2 plan required a change of SIM unless we wanted to wait like 7 business days for an eSIM code to be mailed to us (yeah, I know that doesn't make sense, but it's nonetheless true). Ikan Kekek (talk) 20:09, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Vienna-Berlin train[edit]

Hi, everyone! For those of you who have taken that route: is it very scenic? The possibilities are either no changes or a change of trains in Nuremberg. Ikan Kekek (talk) 19:44, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Which route are you looking at? Looking at trains tomorrow, there are no-change trains via Nuremberg (eg ICE 92 at 10:13, costing €254) or via Brno, Prague, Dresden (eg RJ256 at 13:10, costing €140). There are more possibilities changing in Nuremberg, Prague etc or changing in Salzburg and Munich. If you can extend your stop to 2-3 hours, you could see a little of Nuremberg or Brno, but it wouldn't be worth spending such a short time in Prague or Dresden. I think the route via Prague is reasonably interesting and scenic in places, although it is an hour longer than via Nuremberg for a no-change train. AlasdairW (talk) 20:26, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. I was just looking at trains from Vienna to Berlin available on This is a few weeks out, 2nd week of June. But the results don't show me what route the direct trains take, only where a change of trains is required when one is indeed required. We wouldn't get off to visit any city, because the entire trip takes about 7 hours 45 minutes. I see that ICE 92 is the quickest possibility, so thanks for telling me that goes through Nuremberg. SO be it. Does any of that route go over the Alps? Ikan Kekek (talk) 00:37, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Just replying to myself: The 7-hour 40-minute train from Vienna to Berlin appears to run only on weekdays. On weekends, all trains take at least 9 hours. We haven't decided whether we'll take a train leaving at 10-something AM or fly. Ikan Kekek (talk) 10:34, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I was using the German rail (DB) site, which is partially in English, and gives stops if you click on "Haltestellen". The "man in Seat 61" has a review of the two trains, but this is mainly about the inside the train. AlasdairW (talk) 19:30, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The routes via Nürnberg normally go via Wien – Linz – Passau – Regensburg – Nürnberg – Erfurt – Halle/Leipzig – Berlin. Wien – Linz and Nürnberg – Halle/Leipzig are mostly high speed railways, making the route faster than via Praha, despite the detour. High speed lines tend to have a lot of tunnels, deep cuttings and noise barriers, so they're usually not very scenic. The occasional long and high viaduct compensates somewhat. High speed trains are also expensive to run per kilometre, so multiplied with the detour, this route should on average be a lot more expensive than the connection via Praha.
As both Wien and Berlin are north of the Alps, none of the sensible routes pass over those mountains. The line between Praha and Dresden does however pass the Elbsandsteingebirge, at the east end of the Ore Mountains, along the bank of the Elbe/Labe river. The section from Lovosice to Pirna is one of the most scenic railways in Europe.
Trains tend to be about an order of magnitude more eco-friendly than planes. Please take that into consideration. PiusImpavidus (talk) 11:14, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I do take that into consideration, but I'm also traveling with a partner, so for example, we chose to fly for 1.5 hours from Berlin to Zurich and then going from there to Lucerne instead of taking ~10 hours of trains to Lucerne. Cost is not an object, because we have Eurrail passes. Sadly, traveling via Prague didn't make sense unless we had had the time to visit Prague, which we don't this time (nor do we have the time to stay an extra day in Vienna and take the 7-hour 40-minute direct train that doesn't run on weekends). The trip will already be over 9 hours, which is pretty long even if we don't miss any connections, and I'm not that confident in Deutsche Bahn after having missed connections this past Friday (making us over 1 hour late) and yesterday (delaying us for about 25 minutes, using a different connection than planned). We have done the Munich-to-Berlin ICE before, which goes via Nuremburg, and it's somewhat scenic, though not like the ICE from Bologna to Munich over the Alps! So far, we are planning on taking the train. Ikan Kekek (talk) 10:35, 21 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I don't know whether it is more fit for your journey or not, but I do want to make mention of Westbahn, which seems like a solid option too. They operate between Vienna and Munich via Salzburg, and therefore roughly follow the foothills of the Alps. I have no local knowledge, so I don't know whether that's any more scenic than the ICE 92's route via Passau would be. The main advantage is though, that Westbahn is technically classified as a regional service, which for some stupid reason gives it priority over ICE's. It stops a bit more, and doesn't get up to 200 kph, giving you more chance to take in the scenery, too.
All that should take away some of the stress of making a connection in Munich, from where you have 40 minutes to stock up on whatever you need for the hours-long connection to Berlin with ICE 11 - the one you mentioned taking before. It doesn't seem to take much longer than the 7h40 route you had already found, but it does take away what I personally find to be the worst part of rail travel in Germany: Connection stress. It'd be rare if Westbahn would be delayed to where you couldn't connect in Munich, and ICE 11 starts from Munich and may therefore in a worst-case scenario depart late.
You will probably have to register both journeys separately for your EU-Rail pass, since both OEBB and DB's journey planner will try to force you onto OEBB's Express service to Munich.
Wauteurz (talk) 10:57, 21 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
We actually considered getting off in Munich and going to an afternoon concert there before going to Berlin, but we're leaving Vienna on a Sunday, and the train from Munich to Berlin that day takes over 6 hours, not the usual 3 3/4 - 4 hours every other day. Ikan Kekek (talk) 01:37, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]