Talk:Lake Maggiore
Add topicHi, Thanks for starting this article, but you'll want to take a look at Project:What's an article? and Project:Article naming conventions. There are two problems with this article:
- We don't do bodies of water (i.e. lakes), only destinations like cities, etc. It makes sense if you think about how you don't really eat sleep or shop in a lake ;-)
- The article name should reflect the most common English name for the location, so it would just be "Lake Maggiore" Other versions of the name (i.e. Italian, French, and German) should be included in the article so people can search for it.
So, there are two things we can do:
- Delete this article
- Move it to Lake Maggiore Region or Lake District (Italy). I suggest the second one (the Italy part is to distinguish it from the Lake District in England, see the article naming conventions for more about this).
Hope this helps! (WT-en) Majnoona 12:24, 10 Apr 2005 (EDT)
- I disagree. I think that Lake Maggiore would make a good geographical district. Just as there is an article on the English Lake District and many on National Parks, so there could be one for this lake. It's a chance to point out the main points of interest, the main towns etc. If I was going to this area, I would certainly be looking for Wikivoyage to provide a brief overview of the area.
- I am not sure that there is a need to rename it as the Lake Maggiore Region - for a lake this big, isn't there an implicit assumption that we're talking about a region, rather than just the lake itself.
- I think that there is potential for an article on the Italian Lakes, but as they are very spread out, it would probably be better to have ones on Lake Como and Lake Garda separately. Anyone think differently? (WT-en) DanielC 19:42, 10 Apr 2005 (BST)
- I totally agree that it's a valid region.. So we can have both-- how about Lake District (Italy) with general info about the region-- ie how some of it is in Switzerland the nice weather etc... and then one article for each of the specific Lake regions? Of course, those would have links to the cities in those regions. How's that sound? In any case the (Lago Maggiore) part should be removed. (WT-en) Majnoona 14:26, 10 Apr 2005 (EDT)
- I just did a check of the other Lake place we have and you're right, we don't seem to include the word "Region" so never mind about that! (WT-en) Majnoona 14:28, 10 Apr 2005 (EDT)
- Thanks. Haven't been there since I was tiny, so I'll just add the towns. I'll do more on Lake Como though. (WT-en) DanielC 21:18, 11 Apr 2005 (BST)
VFD discussion
[edit]Bodies of water don't get their own articles per policy.
- Delete - (WT-en) Texugo 03:53, 26 October 2008 (EDT)
- I think it may be time to revisit that policy. We have articles on Great Lakes and Lake Titicaca, for example. Lakes and rivers that are likely to be the target of user searches should have articles, even if just to direct the user to other articles. (WT-en) LtPowers 10:42, 26 October 2008 (EDT)
- Delete - sometimes lakes refer to a region around the lake, like the Great Lakes. That would seem to me to make them valid articles, because they don't just refer to the body of water, but the surrounding area. This doesn't appear to me to be the case for this article. --(WT-en) Inas 21:27, 26 October 2008 (EDT)
- Merge and Redirect - I have to agree with (WT-en) LtPowers in that Lake Maggiore is a likely search target for users. I don't know an awful lot about either of them but my perception would be that Lake Maggiore is of a similar status to Lake Garda, which does have an article. Before being drawn to the articles by this vfd I had never heard of any of the towns listed as being on the shores of them, however I was aware of both lakes as popular destinations for tourists and travellers.
- On the other hand I do feel that the policy of bodies of water not being a valid topic is a sound one in most cases. I wouldn't like to see a sudden slew of articles about random rivers, lakes, bays, gulfs etc which would make a mess of the existing geographical hierarchy we have here and which would take up efforts which would be better directed on the relevant regions and cities.
- I suggest that this article should be merged into Italian Lake District, with a redirect put in place. Likewise for Lake Garda and Lake Como. Individual listings should be moved into the relevant City/Town articles as and when they get written. (WT-en) Tarr3n 10:09, 27 October 2008 (EDT)
- Merge and Redirect into Italian Lake District. (WT-en) Pashley 19:16, 2 November 2008 (EST)
OK now, the result of this VfD was to at least Merge and Redirect, if not Delete. So what is this article still doing here? Is there any reason why this wasn't a consensus? PrinceGloria (talk) 16:46, 1 September 2014 (UTC)
- I don't understand what happened here. Shall the article be merged and redirected?
- If not, though, I think the name is weird, because it's half-translated, and I don't think we'd want to use "Major Lake" or "Big Lake," so why don't we use "Lago Maggiore"? Is "Lake Maggiore" really most commonly used in English-language publications (printed and online)? Ikan Kekek (talk) 17:28, 24 June 2024 (UTC)
Just in case anyone finds any of this compelling and wants to add it to this article:
Its shores cover a total length of 150 kilometers (93 miles) from Canton Ticino in Switzerland to Sesto Calende (Va), reaching with its waters two regions: Piedmont and Lombardy, and three provinces: Novara, Varese, Verbano Cusio Ossola. Wedged between the pre-alps, Lake Maggiore, of clear glacial origin, is framed in its lower section by the soft hills of the "Novarese" region, and in the upper section, by high mountain peaks, some of which with perennial snow. These features make it possible that in the coastal areas the climate is temperate, milder in winter than in the inner areas and cooled down in summer by the breezes that blow on the water's surface changing its color. Thanks to its mild climate it was possible for many species of flowers and plants typical to the sub-tropical climate to adapt to the coastal areas. The populations that inhabited Lake Maggiore in ancient times were quite varied, from the Celts to the local "barbarian" tribes and then the Romans; it was subsequently governed by the lordships of the Visconti, Sforza and Borromeo. Commerce was the main activity, initially only by the lake and later by land due to the construction of the first section of the public road of the Sempione at the beginning of the 19th century. By the beginning of the 1900s with the launch of the Sempione railway, commerce flourished along with tourism and hotels, these activities have protracted up to date.