Talk:Libya

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Formatting and language conventions

For articles about Libya, please use the 24-hour clock to show times, e.g. 09:00-12:00 and 18:00-00:00.

Please show prices in this format: LD100, and not 100 ل.د or LYD 100.

Please use British spelling.

For future reference the Project:CIA World Factbook 2002 import can be found at Talk:Libya/CIA World Factbook 2002 import. -- (WT-en) Huttite 05:33, 28 Mar 2005 (EST)


The Understand section[edit]

I removed some spam from this article and I noticed something strange. The spammer had input a whole bunch of information, and at the very end of it included some poorly worded English and some spam-worthy contact information. I removed all of what the spammer added because while the information in the Understand section seemed relevant, the majority of it was much better written than the spammed contact info, leading me to believe it was plagiarized from elsewhere. If it was part of a previous version from some time ago, then feel free to revert my most recent edit, which is strictly of the better-written portion. - (WT-en) Pastrami on Ry 18:14, 6 March 2007 (EST)

Boat travel[edit]

The article says "no water, so no boats", in the "Get In" section, but that must have been intended for the "Get Around" section. Libya has a coastline on the Mediterranean -- I can't imagine that no boats travel to e.g. Tripoli from places like Greece or Italy. Can someone check on this?

Regions[edit]

Libyasuggestion.png

Libya is vast, but very empty away form the north coast. I think three regions might be enough (oddly enough, the country used to be three kingdoms, which sort of correspond, roughly): Northwest, Northeast, Sahara. Comments please.

While I don't know how common they are used in travelling scene/tourism industry in the country, these three regions can be named Tripolitania (northwest), Cyrenaica (northeast), and Fezzan (south/Sahara) with Tripolitania and Cyrenaica restricted to the coastal areas only (and yes, these are the names of those three former kingdoms). – (WT-en) Vidimian 04:52, 15 March 2010 (EDT)
Yes indeed. They are a bit different though. I think the almost empty Saharan region as one probably makes more sense for travelers? On the other hand it would be good to have three regions that exist and already mean something. --(WT-en) Burmesedays 05:02, 15 March 2010 (EDT)
Actually Tripolitania/Cyrenaica/Fezzan regionalization does not divide Sahara into more than one region: while the maps on the Wikipedia articles I linked to claim otherwise, if you read the last sentence of first paragraph of Cyrenaica article there, you will notice that historical Cyrenaica (which we should use I think) corresponds to only that peninsula-like northeast coast, it was extended to include parts of Sahara only during the Italian occupation of 20th century. No matter what, I agree that we should keep all Saharan Libya in one region, anyway. – (WT-en) Vidimian 05:32, 15 March 2010 (EDT)
Libya Regions map.png
Using ancient Tripolitania/Cyrenaica for the north, and a single Saharan region for the south, we look like this. Any comments before I regionalise the article? A rather minimal map, but there is not much to draw. --(WT-en) Burmesedays 01:54, 16 March 2010 (EDT)
10 days and no comments, so I will regionalise on this basis. --(WT-en) Burmesedays 00:59, 26 March 2010 (EDT)
The "Saharan Libya" is not a logical region as it is hard to be traversed through from west to east. That's why I think it is better to extend Cyrenaica southwards, as the road follows that direction. Then the desert area in the southwest could be called Fezzan. --(WT-en) globe-trotter 23:37, 20 March 2011 (EDT)

2011 Libyan civil war and speaking against Muammar Gaddafi[edit]

Given the hatred against him, is it okay to speak against him and his crumbling regime in rebel-held areas of Libya? I wish there's an update on the Stay Safe section about that. --(WT-en) CurvyEthyl 00:55, 25 August 2011 (EDT)

My guess would be that it's best to just avoid politics altogether (as impossible as they may be regarding what's on everyone's minds in Libya at the moment.) This would be inkeeping with Wikivoyage's advice in many other countries with a troubled past and present that it's best to stay impartial or avoid talking about areas where you have limited knowledge. Iran and Syria are two such examples. —The preceding comment was added by (WT-en) 86.149.183.193 (talkcontribs)
I pretty much erased the entire section, since it's irrelevant until the Civil War is over—at least to the point where it's no longer laughable to consider driving into camels at night one of the more serious dangers to travelers in Libya. --(WT-en) Peter Talk 18:56, 26 August 2011 (EDT)

Libyan Time Zone change[edit]

Libya changed its time zone on the 10th November 2012. Clocks were put back one hour to bring them into line with most of central Europe. Libya will now also observe DST. The rules for DST are a little different from Europe though. Clocks advance one hour on the last Friday of March at 0100 and revert on the last Friday of October at 0200. This is not that well known outside of Libya. Microsoft have not noticed so far - you will not find a time zone for Libya in any Windows version which causes problems for many systems.

I was lucky enough to be in Libya in November and one of my jobs was to resolve the problems the time zone change had caused at a TV station. TV stations typically use a master clock system. Like many PC's it was set to Cairo time, but needed a custom configuration to follow the new time zone.

I do not know whether it is correct to say Libya is on CET and then moves to CEST when DST starts. Would it be correct to say it it has its own time zone - Libya Standard Time and Libya Daylight Time?

If anyone wants to add the time zone to a Windows PC, here is the registry key I created for that:


Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Time Zones\Libya Standard time]
"Display"="(GMT+01:00) Tripoli"
"Dlt"="Libya Daylight Time"
"Std"="Libya Standard Time"
"TZI"=hex:c4,ff,ff,ff,00,00,00,00,c4,ff,ff,ff,00,00,0a,00,05,00,05,00,02,00,00,\ 00,00,00,00,00,00,00,03,00,05,00,05,00,01,00,00,00,00,00,00,00
"MUI_Display"="(GMT +1:00) Tripoli"
"MUI_Dlt"="Libya Daylight Time"
"MUI_Std"="Libya Standard Time"

For Windows 7, you could change the GMT reference to UTC for consistency.

Davidbstanley (talk) 10:40, 16 December 2012 (UTC)