Talk:Manhattan/East Village

Can't edit

Every time I try to edit anything in this article today, I get an "internal error." Someone should find out what the problem is, because there's no good reason for it. Meanwhile, I can't do anything here.

Workaround (see Wikivoyage_talk:Local_spam_blacklist#Spam_links):

• step 1) edit (but don't save) New_York_(city)/East_Village article
• step 2) add gb\.com to Project:Local_spam_whitelist
• step 3) save New_York_(city)/East_Village article
• step 4) remove gb\.com from Project:Local_spam_whitelist

Hi! It doesn't look like it's an error. The url www.cbgb\.com is getting blocked by the blacklist. Please add cbgb\.com to the Project:Local_spam_whitelist with a comment on the discussion page and it should work fine! There's no need to remove the link later... HTH! (WT-en) Majnoona 20:15, 20 April 2006 (EDT)

Majnoona, that's a great idea except for the fact that it's been tried before and didn't work. See the "Talk" page of the spam whitelist, linked above. So far, the workaround described above is the only effective way to edit this article without permanently deleting the link to CBGB's website or putting gb\.com permanently in the spam whitelist. What is gb\.com, anyway?

Michael 17:34, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

Restaurants

To the user who recommends Gandhi: No offense, but I think it's not very good at all, nor do I think there's anything very unusual about its menu. However, I won't delete the entry purely based on my opinion, so I'm just noting an objection here. The best Indian restaurant on that block is almost definitely Banjara, on the corner of 6th and 1st, and the best Indian restaurant in the neighborhood, in my not-so-humble opinion, is Madras Cafe. Most of the rest of the Indian places around here upset my stomach.

Michael 02:49, 01 Sept 2007 (UTC)

See: Tompkins Square Park

It appears the commentary is a direct quote from an external sources (which I can not confirm because I can't find that info on the other site). But if it is a quote I believe that is against wikivoyage guidelines? (WT-en) Carson 18:47, 21 May 2008 (EDT)

Restaurant listings

How would everyone feel about my deleting some listings of places that just aren't that good, like Gandhi, Menkui Tei, Setagaya, and adding better ones, like Banjara, Ippudo, and several other places? Do I have free rein to edit the list this way for quality? I'll leave places I don't like that many others do, like Veselka, Veniero's, and Di Roberti's. Ikan Kekek (talk) 11:28, 12 May 2013 (UTC)

Go for it! I think per Wikivoyage:Avoid negative reviews, you are well within your rights to do that. If you're leaving places that you don't like but lots of other people do, I think that neatly avoids any real issues of personal bias. PerryPlanet (talk) 19:23, 12 May 2013 (UTC)

Thanks. I'll get started. Ikan Kekek (talk) 21:20, 12 May 2013 (UTC)

Alamo

Very regrettably, I have concluded that since they have yet to return the Alamo to Astor Place, months after I watched them take it away, it is probably gone for good. Just in case they ever return it, here is the listing for it:

• 1 Alamo. A sculpture at the center of Astor Place. This steel cube actually rotates as you push on any side, though you may need the strength of two or three people for a complete rotation. One of its sister cubes resides on the University of Michigan campus in Ann Arbor, Michigan. As of June, 2015, this sculpture has been removed. It is unclear when it will be returned. 

Ikan Kekek (talk) 09:01, 30 September 2015 (UTC)

I'm happy to report that the Alamo has been returned to Astor Place within the past few days. An updated entry was put back into the "See" section. Ikan Kekek (talk) 05:29, 7 November 2016 (UTC)

Feel free to revert!

Just added a bar probably everyone thinks is lame. Looked like you had space for it on the map. The East Village is great, but I haven't been in years! Thanks again for your help. --ButteBag (talk) 02:53, 7 February 2017 (UTC)

Otto's Shrunken Head - no, that's a bar that should be listed. It's fun, and as you say, it's also a performance space. I like that bar. Ikan Kekek (talk) 03:20, 7 February 2017 (UTC)

More restaurants/bars

I post this mostly as a "to do" list for myself, but if anyone wants to post these, great!

Restaurants:

B&H (I can't believe that isn't already there!)

Szechuan Mountain House (in the former Grand Sichuan St Marks space, always a long wait for dinner, no reservations)

Oh! Taisho (Yakitori Taisho's sister restaurant a few doors down, equally good)

Bars:

Sophie's and Josie's (sister bars) Ikan Kekek (talk) 09:06, 10 February 2018 (UTC)

I added these restaurants. The bars still need to be added. Ikan Kekek (talk) 20:09, 6 April 2018 (UTC)

Done. Ikan Kekek (talk) 21:05, 8 April 2018 (UTC)

I note the addition of Sundaes and Cones. I think it's fine to include, but Odd Fellows is better, though different. E. 4 St. between 2nd and Bowery. It should be added. In addition, I notice that Il Laboratorio del Gelato is not listed in Manhattan/Lower East Side. That's their flagship location, it's great, and it needs to be added. Ikan Kekek (talk) 02:51, 3 August 2019 (UTC)

Zabb Elee has a new name. I don't know anyone who's visited the new place and I have no idea whether it's under new management or has a new cook, but the URL in this listing is dead:

• 1 Zabb Elee, 75 2nd Ave (between 4th and 5th Sts.), ☏ +1 212 505-9533. Sunday-Thursday: 11:30AM-10:30PM; Friday-Saturday: 11:30AM-11:30PM. This arguably used to be one of the better Thai restaurants in Manhattan but may no longer be, though it is one of three or so in Manhattan where anyone can get very spicy food. They have a 1-5 spiciness index, and anything 4 and up will seriously challenge most people (3 is already robustly spicy). Zabb specializes in Isaan cuisine from the Northeastern part of Thailand near Laos, so get specialties like larb, yum, som tom, and toam. If you want your food less sweet and more sour, ask. You might not get it exactly the way you want, but it's worth a try. $7-14 per dish. 

Btw, the new restaurant there also closed, and the space has been vacant for a while. My neighbors and I have concluded that the East Village location of Moishe's is gone, but I'm moving the listing here in case we turn out to be wrong:

• 1 Moishe's Bake Shop, 115 Second Ave (just south of 7th St), ☏ +1 212-505-8555. 8AM - 9PM; closes before sundown on Friday; closed Saturday and Jewish holidays. Temporarily closed for renovations. This is an old-fashioned kosher bakery. Among their excellent offerings are their strudels, mandel bread, rugelach, black & whites, danishes, almond horns, cinnamon sticks and kichlach (big crispy sugar cookies), and their challahs are also very popular. Their hamantashen are also good, though sometimes a bit salty. The Chinese almond cookies are good, but some of the smaller cookies are not too consistent in quality. The counterwomen are always willing to help you select items that were baked that day. Items that are in individual portion size, like black & whites, danishes, and almond horns, cost around $2.50-$3 apiece, but rugelach and mandel bread are quite a lot more expensive and must be bought by the quarter pound (minimum) or as an entire large piece, respectively. The staff will be happy to cut you a piece of strudel, and they will also slice challah for you without extra charge. Wednesdays and Thursdays are particularly good days to visit, as they have fresh chocolate and sometimes also cinnamon babka those days, and with any luck, you can get some that's still warm (unfortunately, they no longer sell it by the slice; you'll have to get half a babka or an entire one). There is no place to sit, so all business is for takeout, and they do not have napkins or utensils to give you. (updated Mar 2019)

Ikan Kekek (talk) 14:28, 15 December 2019 (UTC)

I need to add Mala Project, if no-one beats me to it. Their dry pots are very good. Casa Adela also needs to be listed. I'd list Jules Bistro and Lavagna, too, if I had eaten at either recently enough. Ikan Kekek (talk) 10:43, 20 December 2019 (UTC)