Talk:Seafood

"Destinations and cuisine"

I didn't notice that subtitle way near the bottom, so I added a lot about destinations and cuisine in the "Understand" section. Please move it around at will and add anything you think will be interesting and useful to readers. Ikan Kekek (talk) 10:07, 4 December 2015 (UTC)

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In the U.S., "seafood" usually does not encompass fish, in my experience. I'd like to rename this article "Fish and seafood". Any objection? Ikan Kekek (talk) 12:37, 8 December 2015 (UTC)

I got no reaction to this. I am going to plunge forward with this very soon unless anyone speaks up. Does any dialect of English consider fish a form of seafood? Ikan Kekek (talk) 16:44, 4 April 2016 (UTC)

I started this page, but English is not my mother tongue. We could consider moving the page to Fish and seafood. /Yvwv (talk) 13:33, 5 April 2016 (UTC)

I just wanted to put my two cents in, since I'm actually from a region of the US that sometimes just calls everything water related seafood. In the Midwest (specifically Wisconsin, the UP, and the eastern half of Minnesota), I've noticed that they'll even, occasionally, categorize lake fish as seafood (They'll have lake fish listed beside sea fish in the seafood section of a menu)! It's by no means universal but common enough. Usually mom and pop places will list everything as seafood on the menu or be called [Name]'s Seafood Restaurant. I think it's mostly a rural and suburban thing, but I've definitely eaten at a place in Minneapolis where fish and seafood mingled on the menu but the place just called itself a seafood restaurant and had mostly fish in the seafood section of the menu. Having grown up in the area, I personally feel that "Fish and Seafood" is redundant. However, I don't think we Midwesterners should be in charge of anything word related since we call water fountains bubblers and use words like acrossed and unthaw. I agree that the article's name should be changed to better align with how the majority of English speakers would use the term. —The preceding comment was added by DethDestroyerOfWords (talk • contribs)

Thanks for your input. In the Eastern U.S., too, fish would normally be served in a seafood restaurant, but to my knowledge, we still wouldn't refer to fish as a kind of seafood. I wasn't aware that Midwestern usage was different. So now, the question is whether my usage is idiosyncratic to the Eastern Seaboard. I think we need more input from people who speak other dialects of English. Ikan Kekek (talk) 15:13, 5 April 2016 (UTC)

At Wikipedia they include everything living in the sea, even seaweed. To me, seafood is just crustaceans and molluscs but I'm also not a native English speaker :) . User:K7L, User:AlasdairW and User:ThunderingTyphoons! perhaps would like to give some non-American input. ϒpsilon (talk) 15:47, 5 April 2016 (UTC)

To me seafish are seafood, but seafood does not include freshwater fish. However to avoid confusion and assist searches I would include fish in the title. I don't often eat seaweed, but I have seen it in the vegetable section in UK supermarkets. AlasdairW (talk) 20:26, 5 April 2016 (UTC)

At this point, I'm unsure about the title. Maybe it's fine to keep the title as is but note that many English speakers consider "seafood" not to include fish, only aquatic crustaceans and mollusks. Ikan Kekek (talk) 08:39, 8 April 2016 (UTC)

See what you think of my edits. If everyone's basically OK with them, maybe we should put this discussion to bed (at least for now) and stay with the current title. What do you think? Ikan Kekek (talk) 08:48, 8 April 2016 (UTC)