Talk:Zilina Region

Comments on above

This is not a standard format for a non-bottom-level region, either. It's too long and complicated. The whole point of having articles for each of these subregions is to put this content on those articles, not here. Ikan Kekek (talk) 15:51, 2 November 2016 (UTC)

Okay, I just created this, because you suggested it on Talk:Slovakia - "however, you can use subregions as subtitles if that makes for ease in organizing the "Cities" list", so I wanted to be clear, what you meant. Maybe you meant something else then? (if you could clarify on one example, that'd be good also for the future of my editing :-) ). Anyhow, I'll stick to the current format then. Andree.sk (talk) 17:02, 2 November 2016 (UTC)

The current format is not correct either. Please look at Wikivoyage:Region article template. I'd like to reiterate that the whole point of non-bottom-level region articles is to have a listing of all the subregions, whose articles are linked, and to list no more than 9 "Cities" and "Other destinations" for the entire region (not the subregions). It doesn't make sense to have a linked list of every city in every subregion listing. The complete lists of cities for each bottom-level subregion should be in each bottom-level subregion's article. Please let me know which points can be further clarified, because I'd like for you to understand the way region articles are intended to work on this site. Ikan Kekek (talk) 17:42, 2 November 2016 (UTC)

I went through the template... Too bad it doesn't fit my "idea" of the structure - I thought I will put only stuff belonging (geographically and logically) to the city to the city article (like Ružomberok), and more remote things into region Liptov. But it appears the right way is putting everything into the cities. Me no likey - but consistency is an useful thing, thus I'll try to do it wikivoyage way. Regarding the regions vs. cities, I got you - I definitely won't name all the cities. I'll try to prepare some stuff and get back here for a "review", before I continue with other regions, ok? Andree.sk (talk) 19:06, 2 November 2016 (UTC)

Remember, it is possible to create articles with a WV:Small city article template that are actually of well-defined rural areas. See Rural Montgomery County for an example. However, they can't be treated as region articles, even though they are in fact articles about regions (sorry if that's confusing). If you have other ideas about ways to improve the Wikivoyage:Region article template, please lay them out at Wikivoyage talk:Region article template. There have been some recent changes to how we think about regions, so it's quite possible your ideas might be adopted. Ikan Kekek (talk) 20:59, 2 November 2016 (UTC)

Yup, I think I'll use it for some countryside parts of Liptov eventually. I though I will be able to use it to cover areas surrounding some cities, but as you said(?), it's not how it should be used (it should be a bottom-level thing). Anyhow, I don't really want to go convincing people to change this "root" stuff - I'm here only 2 weeks, and I know I don't have enough overview... Perhaps once I write down more stuff, I might have a more strong opinion :) Andree.sk (talk) 22:04, 2 November 2016 (UTC)

I'm not convinced a single city template couldn't be used for areas surrounding some cities, in some circumstances. If the points of interest are too few to sustain more than one article, that could be a way to go. Ikan Kekek (talk) 03:52, 3 November 2016 (UTC)