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Hello,! Welcome to Wikivoyage.

To help get you started contributing, we've created a tips for new contributors page, full of helpful links about policies and guidelines and style, as well as some important information on copyleft and basic stuff like how to edit a page. If you need help, check out Help, or post a message in the travellers' pub. If you are familiar with Wikipedia, take a look over some of the differences here.--ϒpsilon (talk) 20:21, 15 October 2016 (UTC)

Sync with Wikitravel?[edit]

Thanks a lot for being active and adding content! But please read Wikivoyage and Wikitravel. Syncing with Wikitravel is questionable, and adding stub articles about little villages is not a good idea, if there's nothing more to add. Unless you believe there is enough potential content to fill out a Wikivoyage:Small city template, please don't start a stub about a village. Ikan Kekek (talk) 07:37, 16 October 2016 (UTC)

Hi, Ok, sorry 'bout the stubs. The sync is not questionable, since it's the content I put there yesterday, and then I found out about wikivoyage (which I will probably user more in the future :) )... (talk) 07:50, 16 October 2016 (UTC)

OK, that's cool. Still good for you to know about the background between the two sites, though. And welcome! Ikan Kekek (talk) 08:00, 16 October 2016 (UTC)

Copyleft policy[edit]

Hi, I regret that I have to delete the Malá Fatra article because no-one gave credit to w:Malá Fatra when copying lines of text from that article verbatim. It's usually a bad idea to do that, anyway, because it's generally more appropriate to summarize and/or paraphrase, but in any case, it's a violation of Wikipedia's Creative Commons license and Wikivoyage's Copyleft policy to copy content verbatim from any source, even a sister site, without crediting the source.

I'm copying the entries you created that don't seem to be copied directly from anywhere and posting them below, to make it easier to recreate an article about this mountain range:


  • 1 Terchová. A tourist center of Malá Fatra, birth place of "Juraj Jánošík" - a famous Slovak highwayman. Terchová on Wikipedia


  • 1 Veľký Rozsutec (Most common access is from village Štefanová or Terchová, following a ravine, continuing around Malý Rozsutec and up. Usually approx. 2.5-3h hike up.). One of the most picturesque Slovak mountains, with great views. Veľký Rozsutec on Wikipedia
  • 2 Vrátna dolina (Follow the road from Terchová). A valley, which is one of the most visited tourist and ski destinations in Slovakia. Vrátna dolina on Wikipedia

Please let me know if you have any questions, and thanks again for being so helpful. Please have patience; it's totally understandable for any new Wikivoyage user to trip on some policies now and then. I did, too.

All the best,

Ikan Kekek (talk) 05:21, 19 October 2016 (UTC)

hi! please copy here the whole article, I'll rewrite whatever is needed, but I sure ain't gonna write it again from scratch, I value my time more than that. (talk) 06:03, 19 October 2016 (UTC)

The rest of it was all copyvio from the Wikipedia article, so you can find it there once more. By the way, your participation has also been requested at Talk:Slovakia on choosing the most user-friendly way to divide the country into regions on this site. Ikan Kekek (talk) 06:29, 19 October 2016 (UTC)
I hope you're not losing patience with me or other longer-time users who are cramping your style. The entire lifeblood of this site is users like you who add content! But copyvio policies aren't a place where corners can be cut; they're subject to potential lawsuits. And changes to the regional structure of countries are the kinds of edits that need discussion. Of course I realize that you were merely providing a table of traditional regional divisions of Slovakia, but having that plus the current regional divisions seems confusing to me. But I really don't want you to decide we're wasting your time and stop editing here. I can back off a little for a while, if you like, though not on basic things like copyvio policy, but I can't say what others will choose to do. Ikan Kekek (talk) 06:38, 19 October 2016 (UTC)
A bit - it's quite a cold shower to find reverts (instead of "Thanks") in the morning,after 4 hour wikiediting :)) I mean, I posted to multiple projects (but software ones mostly), so I know a review process is useful and needed often. But are you sure it was all copy? Perhaps I copied the one introductory sentence (which cannot be rewritten too much), I don't recall unfortunately, I did quite some work yesterday. Please do copy it here, if even possible. I'll add references to wikipedia or whatever, but I don't want to refigure it all out - really, I've got better things to do (and I'm sure you too). TIA, (talk) 06:41, 19 October 2016 (UTC)
I understand. And yeah, I sure do have other things to do. Well, here's the Wikipedia article. As I recall, the parts you copied were:
Malá Fatra (Slovak pronunciation: [ˈmalaː ˈfatra]; also Little Fatra or Lesser Fatra, Polish: Mała Fatra) is a mountain range in the Western Carpathians in the north-west of Central Slovakia.
It is situated approximately between the cities of Nitrianske Pravno, Strečno, Martin and Zázrivá. Turčianska kotlina (Turiec Basin) and the Oravská vrchovina Mts. are situated to the west of the range, and Žilinská kotlina (Žilina Basin) and the Kysucká vrchovina Mts. is located to the east.
You might have copied more; I don't recall. I would suggest making this less encyclopedic and mentioning in your edit summary that you used content from w:Malá Fatra, which suffices for credit. I'd probably include something like this:
Malá Fatra is a karst mountain range in the Western Carpathians in the north-west of Central Slovakia. It lies between Nitrianske Pravno, Strečno, Martin and Zázrivá.
You could continue by mentioning that its tallest peak is Malý Kriváň, at 1,671 m, and so forth. It's OK to copy from Wikipedia as necessary; just mention the articles you got content from in your edit summary. Ikan Kekek (talk) 06:58, 19 October 2016 (UTC)
okay, I'll try that, thanks also for the summary suggestion! (talk) 07:34, 19 October 2016 (UTC)
You bet! Ikan Kekek (talk) 08:46, 19 October 2016 (UTC)

Western Tatras[edit]


Just as a heads up, if the area you are describing crosses the borders of two countries (Slovakia and Poland) then it needs to be an extra-region, and at a higher level in the hierarchy (Central Europe).

If you want to create a national park just on the Slovakia side, then that can be a separate park article under Slovakia.

Hope that helps. --Andrewssi2 (talk) 21:38, 2 November 2016 (UTC)

Hey! Oh, sorry 'bout that... I may have overwritten some of your changes - categorize it as needed. Intention was to only cover the Slovak part, but I guess there's no harm in doing both in one article. (talk) 21:41, 2 November 2016 (UTC)
No worries, and thanks for the article!
Darien_Gap is another example of an article that covers two countries (Panama and Colombia). --Andrewssi2 (talk) 21:44, 2 November 2016 (UTC)

Links to Wikipedia[edit]

Thanks, as always, for adding so much great content!

The policy on links to Wikipedia is laid out at WV:Links to Wikipedia. What it amounts to is that inline links to Wikipedia are not allowed. There is a specific Wikipedia field that can be used in any listing, but nowhere else in a listing can such links be used. That might or might not make sense, and I doubt the current policy will last forever (I'm not sure it should, either), but right now, it holds. Ikan Kekek (talk) 06:43, 3 November 2016 (UTC)

Zilina Region[edit]

Hello, and thanks as always for your valuable edits! Just to clarify: Would you like this article to be redirected somewhere? If so, where? Ikan Kekek (talk) 06:59, 7 November 2016 (UTC)

Hopefully it will help someone... :) I'd just remove the mentioned article, I tried to drop all references to it already... While you are here - also Nízke Tatry should be renamed to Low Tatras to match other articles - but I don't have rights for that. (talk) 07:37, 7 November 2016 (UTC)
OK, I'll do both these things. Ikan Kekek (talk) 11:36, 7 November 2016 (UTC)
Done. Ikan Kekek (talk) 11:39, 7 November 2016 (UTC)

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Hi, it wasn't. I only wanted fix the typo and wording of the content in the listing but it seems that the image placement has moved when I used the listing editor. Gizza (roam) 20:57, 27 November 2017 (UTC)

User:AndreeBot - improve listings/regionlists[edit]

Sample size is large enough for people to comment. Otherwise too many corrections to be made. --Traveler100 (talk) 13:10, 3 March 2018 (UTC)

Brussels public transport[edit]

Hi, I saw your experiments on the public transport template for Brussels, and think you raised a valid issue on which a consensus is needed. Would you please share your thoughts in the corresponding section of the Brussels talk page? Thanks! ArticCynda (talk) 21:45, 6 June 2018 (UTC)


Active template is using sandbox source. Not sure that is a good idea with such an important building block of listings. --Traveler100 (talk) 08:57, 9 June 2018 (UTC)

Yup, I know, but thanks for keeping eye on me :) I'm just working on the fix of the module:map (so that other templates using that module don't break :) )... (talk) 08:59, 9 June 2018 (UTC)
@Traveler100: ... so how should I now improve the marker thing, when you locked it? (talk) 09:07, 9 June 2018 (UTC)
So I have unlocked it again but we need to set it back and consider giving you admin rights. --Traveler100 (talk) 09:09, 9 June 2018 (UTC)
Please also unlock Module:map, @Traveler100:... Thanks! (talk) 07:34, 10 June 2018 (UTC) done, but let me know when finished. I think we need to tighten access here. --Traveler100 (talk) 08:02, 10 June 2018 (UTC)
@Traveler100:, could you unlock it again, please? There's at least one small bug inside (probably only AndreeBot, though :) )... Do 'we' have to do this thing now, when there was no vandalism happening AFAI can see? Perhaps let's first agree on the new rules, then tighten the access? (talk) 19:42, 18 June 2018 (UTC) done
@Traveler100:: Also Module:Map.... TIA! (talk) 19:53, 18 June 2018 (UTC)

See listing with no coordinates[edit]

I just added this to the See listing to create a list of article with missing coordinates. Mainly to check guide articles without coordinates, see links at Category:See listing with no coordinates. However I now realise this will not work if coordinates are added from wikidata, using the updates you added to the map module. I am not familiar with Lua script so could you move this feature to the deeper code? Maybe also do for Eat and Sleep too. --Traveler100 (talk) 13:31, 9 June 2018 (UTC)

Hi! I can tell you straight away, this will match 95% of articles :-)) But anyway, no problem I'll add it into the module... (talk) 19:08, 9 June 2018 (UTC)
thanks for adding. Also considering allowing NA as lat and long input for Not Applicable and not add to category. See sandbox. But this would now need to be added to the map module.
Also done for eat, buy, drink, sleep . See Wikivoyage:Dynamic maps Expedition/ListingCoordStats. --Traveler100 (talk) 20:40, 19 June 2018 (UTC)
Done, and done... .-) (talk) 20:58, 19 June 2018 (UTC)
Great, thanks. --Traveler100 (talk) 20:05, 20 June 2018 (UTC)

Technical question[edit]

Hi Andree. I was wondering if you might be able to help me do another technical fix over at the Hebrew Wikivoyage... I have been trying myself to add the GPX feature to the Hebrew Wikivoyage without much success (the little black "GPX" icon that appears on every page, at the top right side, at the English Wikivoyage). As you can see on this page, when it is added, it pushes the geo coordinates icon down and the banner becomes smaller as a result. What should I change in order to fix that and what code should I add so that the GPX icon appears on all pages? (I am an admin at the Hebrew Wikivoyage). ויקיג'אנקי (talk) 08:30, 20 June 2018 (UTC)

Hey ויקיג'אנקי! Unfortunately, I never did such stuff with mediawiki, so I have no idea... I'll have a look once I have some spare time, but don't cross your fingers... I think asking some admin, or on pub, or e.g. someone from these guys could maybe lead somewhere...? (talk) 19:39, 20 June 2018 (UTC)
Will do. Thanks. ויקיג'אנקי (talk) 20:13, 27 June 2018 (UTC)

Your bot[edit]

Could you please verify the edits of your bot. Adding wikidata to a marker does not display the wikidata link. You need to use listing instead. Also, why not also add the wikipedia link? Would be helpful. (It can easily be derived from the wikidata source.) Cheers, Ceever (talk) 21:34, 25 June 2018 (UTC)

hi @Ceever:! actually that's intentional behavior, check the "script nominations" page for the discussion. My primary intention is to auto-add coords+images and maps to the (relatively empty) region articles. I guess only advanced users will edit those anyway, so there's really no huge gain clobbering those pages with those icons... (talk) 21:42, 25 June 2018 (UTC)
Aaahhh, I did not know. Well, the region levels for Altiplano need to be cut down anyhow, too much duplicate information. I now added all the information, but will update the region probably soon. Ceever (talk) 22:25, 25 June 2018 (UTC)

It looks like your bot may have a bug - it deleted the region descriptions from Central Coast (California) in this edit: Special:Diff/3500219/3550460. -- Ryan • (talk) • 16:03, 8 July 2018 (UTC)

thanks for pointing it out, Ryan! I'll fix it, and check other similar changes also... (talk) 16:17, 8 July 2018 (UTC)

Are you an admin?[edit]

If so, I need your help. It seems that AndreCarrotflower accidentally blocked Ibaman. Can you switch the buttons? ---Selfie City (talk | contributions) 18:48, 24 August 2018 (UTC)

Never mind, I just checked, and you're not an admin. ---Selfie City (talk | contributions) 18:49, 24 August 2018 (UTC)

An award for you![edit]

Barncompass.png The Wikivoyage Barncompass
For your fantastic work on the new climate chart template, which looks smashing and is so much better. Well done :-) -- ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 20:46, 27 August 2018 (UTC)

join us in Wikivoyage talk:Geographical hierarchy[edit]

I've recently started a thread on properly splitting content (and resolving some redundancies) between several articles in/near Low Tatras. Per User:Ypsilon's suggestion, please join us there as very likely you can help. --DenisYurkin (talk) 12:08, 21 January 2019 (UTC)

Unilateral renaming[edit]

Hi. I appreciate your impulse to do what you think is right, but please in the future do not unilaterally move and rename articles. The governing standard on Wikivoyage is not whatever some government does but Wikivoyage:Naming conventions, and there is a preexisting thread at Talk:Astana. In order to try to form a consensus behind a move, you will need to show evidence not that the Kazakh government announced something but that the new name is already the most used name for the city in English. Thanks. Ikan Kekek (talk) 09:13, 9 April 2019 (UTC)

Help with Bass Strait Islands[edit]

I tried to change the banner on the BSI page, but it didn't work, and now I can't change it back. Can you help me out please? IonisXR (talk) 21:05, 30 May 2019 (UTC)

@IonisXR: I fixed it. --Traveler100 (talk) 21:14, 30 May 2019 (UTC)

Wikidata for Interstate 25[edit]

Dear, Thanks for inserting the mapshape wikidata on I-25. It is definitely desirable for travelers to clearly see which route is the one they wish to travel on I do have a tech question though: On a console or desktop, the entire route is covered while on mobile only the Colorado portion of it is. Is there any way to correct this? Zanygenius2 (WV-en) (talk) 01:35, 31 May 2019 (UTC)

Hi, Zanygenius2 (WV-en)! looks like it got fixed by itself? At least I don't see any issues on my phone... -- 15:11, 6 June 2019 (UTC) Strange, indeed. Thanks, Zanygenius2 (WV-en) (talk) 19:20, 7 June 2019 (UTC)

Community Insights Survey[edit]

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