User talk:SelfieCity

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Welcome to my talk page! If you want to see older talk page discussions, go to my archive, which includes discussions from December 2017 through July 2018 (with the exception of one comment, which you can see below). Discussions from July 2018 to the present are shown below. If you're unsure about something I did or you have some other question related to something I've done, etc., feel free to click the "Add topic" button at the top of this page and add what you want to say. Thanks!


I apologize if what I said came across as rude. Libertarianmoderate (talk) 23:27, 31 July 2018 (UTC)

Don't worry, Libertarianmoderate, you said nothing to me that was rude (you weren't even addressing me in the first place). The real reason I responded to your comment, which I (to some extent) said in the first place, was that I was bored, looking for things to do while I was on the website, and discovered your comment and responded. Now I've gone back to to Talk:Baqubah, though, I'd say that Ground Zero is correct — there are many, many articles on Wikivoyage with formatting errors, so don't go by other articles to tell what's correct formatting. Thanks anyway! Selfie City (talk) 13:47, 1 August 2018 (UTC)

Argentina to London

I was wondering if you could help me out with my new Argentina to London itinerary. Libertarianmoderate (talk) 00:22, 3 August 2018 (UTC)

Sure, sounds interesting — Argentina to London! Selfie City (talk) 02:45, 3 August 2018 (UTC)

If you want your page to be protected, just ask

Given the frequency of vandalism to your userspace, you may wish to get it protected so that only auto-confirmed users (i.e. accounts which have been registered for 4 days) can edit. It's entirely up to you, but if you do want it, you can ask me or any other admin at any time. Best wishes, --ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 09:14, 10 August 2018 (UTC)

Yes, I saw that the same thing happened to OhanaUnited. And protecting in that way sounds like a good idea. ThunderingTyphoons!, could you do that please? Normally I'm not worried about vandals to my userpages but 1) vandals use some pretty terrible language, and 2) if you don't add the protection, you guys end up spending time restoring my own user/user talk pages. Selfie City (talk) 15:00, 10 August 2018 (UTC)
Yes Done - Anytime you want it undone, just let one of us know. --ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 15:26, 10 August 2018 (UTC)
Thanks. Selfie City (talk) 16:14, 10 August 2018 (UTC)


As a thank you for sending a thank you notice, I've added you to my page under the "Users I've been thanked by" list. Libertarianmoderate (talk) 20:43, 19 August 2018 (UTC)

Well, thanks! ;) Selfie City (talk) 20:45, 19 August 2018 (UTC)


Done. Now each of the cantons has 3-4 cities, in some cases even more. Libertarianmoderate (talk) 14:51, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

Thanks. Selfie City (talk) 14:57, 20 August 2018 (UTC)


When I made the articles for Rojava and the cantons, I guess it never occurred to me what would happen if it collapses entirely. It's likely that Rojava will try to save itself by making some kind of deal where they trade land for autonomy. If one city is turned over to Assad, we can move its article back to where it was before. But if the whole system collapses, what happens to the Rojava article and the canton articles? Do we keep it as a region, like in the case of Iranian Azerbaijan? Or do we move it back to the Syrian Desert? Libertarianmoderate (talk) 15:20, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

IMO this is one reason to avoid creating new articles and region structures for places that are unvisitable and unstable—if the situation changes, the articles may have to be rewritten completely before they're ever useful to anyone. —Granger (talk · contribs) 15:36, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
Yes, I'm not too keen on writing about war zones but User:Libertarianmoderate created these new region articles, so I tried to make the situation better by asking him to create at least 3-4 lower-level city articles for each new region he had created. I personally think with the war zone articles that they need not be edited until the wars end. Selfie City (talk) 16:12, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
Nvrm, if Rojava collapses, I'll fix it myself and revert everything back to what it was before. Al-Qamishli would be part of the SE Desert, and Tel Abyad would be in NW Syria. Libertarianmoderate (talk) 16:53, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
Thanks and yes, that is probably the best solution considering the state of things. By the way, I have done some more work on the Midlothian article if you want to check it out. --- Selfie City (talk | contributions) 17:09, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

A goat for you!

Boer Goat (8742860752).jpg

This is what the heart button does :D You can also send a barnstar, or make your own reward.

ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 17:25, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

Oh, I see. --- Selfie City (talk | contributions) 17:26, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
Is there any way I can find out when I pressed the button and to whom? --- Selfie City (talk | contributions) 17:27, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

:::I don't think so. These are all your logs, everything from the thanks you have sent, to the pages you've created, even all the abuse filters you've triggered (just kidding) but there doesn't seem to be a Wikilove log. Pressing the button just opens a window where you can choose between a barnstar, a goat, or make your own custom template, so if you haven't done that before then chances are you haven't sent any Wikilove messages using that button. --ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 17:36, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

Scratch that, look at my contributions (A goat for you!: new WikiLove message); if you have anything like that, then that's your answer. --ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 17:39, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
I went through all my contributions and searched for "goat", and the only things I found were in this discussion thread. --- Selfie City (talk | contributions) 17:44, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
It's probably just as well goats haven't come up much in your Wikivoyage career. --ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 18:58, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────Yes, definitely. I was actually just going to an article where they talk about bighorn sheep. Also to clarify: when I say I went through all my contributions, I mean that I went through all my Special:contributions pages, not that I went through every single one of the 5,000 contributions I ever made! Thanks for the information though. --- Selfie City (talk | contributions) 19:09, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

== A goat for you! ==

Boer Goat (8742860752).jpg

Testing the button next to the watchlist icon

DethDestroyerOfWords (talk) 20:42, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
I see someone already tested this for you, haha!DethDestroyerOfWords (talk) 20:43, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

Now why did we both go for the same goat? :) (Yes, there's a choice of goats) --ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 22:02, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
I mean, let's be serious. This was the superior goat. The other goats were not nearly as adorable and therefore worthy of a test of the goat sending system. DethDestroyerOfWords (talk) 14:22, 21 August 2018 (UTC)
And that goat doesn't even know that his picture's on countless user talk pages. --- Selfie City (talk | contributions) 15:38, 21 August 2018 (UTC)
@ThunderingTyphoons!: Did you notice how I kept editing your user talk page? Yes, I was actually sending my first barncompass ever... ---Selfie City (talk | contributions) 00:32, 23 August 2018 (UTC)
Thank you :-) It is much appreciated. --ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 00:35, 23 August 2018 (UTC)
Goat at Rational Wiki. Pashley (talk) 02:28, 26 August 2018 (UTC)
Honestly, I prefer WV to "Rational" Wiki. ---Selfie City (talk | contributions) 03:04, 26 August 2018 (UTC)

Reporting vandalism

Thanks for your recent report on my talk page; that vandal has been dealt with. Not by me; someone blocked him globally (all WMF sites) before I went to see if I should block him. I'm a WV admin so I could have blocked him here, but not globally.

The best place to report such things is Wikivoyage:Vandalism in progress. More-or-less all admins have that on their watchlist, so everyone will see it. Pashley (talk) 02:24, 26 August 2018 (UTC)

Oh, okay. I'm sorry about that. ---Selfie City (talk | contributions) 03:01, 26 August 2018 (UTC)

6000 edits: 🎉

Thank you for your hard work! Ground Zero (talk) 00:00, 1 September 2018 (UTC)

Indeed. There might be another goat coming at you soon. Also, GZ, look at that timestamp; magic.--ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 00:25, 1 September 2018 (UTC)
Very cool! I'm in the wrong time zone to have been aware of what I was doing there, but I'm glad you noticed. Ground Zero (talk) 01:01, 1 September 2018 (UTC)
Oh yeah, someone else also had a 00:00 timestamp "today" in one of their comments. Also, if someone sends a goat in my direction, could it please not be the Boer Goat (8742860752).jpg goat? Just kidding. --Comment by Selfie City (talk about my contributions) 03:53, 1 September 2018 (UTC)
And thank you for your work archiving the pub and other pages. These would be thankless tasks but for the fact I just thanked you. Best regards, Ground Zero (talk) 21:16, 4 September 2018 (UTC)
Yes, sure, thanks for noticing. --Comment by Selfie City (talk about my contributions) 21:40, 4 September 2018 (UTC)
I once got an unironic "thank you for the thank you letter" letter, and in the spirit of that, thanks to both of you for being so thankful. --ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 22:35, 4 September 2018 (UTC)
Thanks for your thank for thankfulness. --Comment by Selfie City (talk about my contributions) 23:55, 4 September 2018 (UTC)
Thanks. --ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 00:30, 5 September 2018 (UTC)


Hi, and thanks for all you do!

I just wanted to let you know, in case you didn't, that I'm a professional flutist and composer with a Doctorate in music who taught college music courses for 15 years. That doesn't mean I can't be wrong or have incomplete knowledge about certain things musical, but it could be something to keep in mind for the sake of context. And if you'd like to see a system of musical instrument classification that's still in common use among ethnomusicologists (and therefore works to classify instruments worldwide), have a look at w:Hornbostel–Sachs. Just as we don't use IPA symbols despite their use among linguists, I don't propose for us to use Hornbostel–Sachs, either, but we can move just a tad toward that, IMO, and that's what I'm trying to do.

All the best,

Ikan Kekek (talk) 21:34, 5 September 2018 (UTC)

Yes, you clearly have a lot of musical experience and you mentioned to me that you're a musician before. Perhaps a good solution for the naming of instrument groups would be just to list the most common musical instruments to start with (without trying to classify them in sections like percussion, etc.) and then we can add more instrument sections as the article progresses and, if the article gets too long or has too many sections, we split it out. --Comment by Selfie City (talk about my contributions) 21:41, 5 September 2018 (UTC)
I'm OK with that. We can just see how things go. Ikan Kekek (talk) 21:43, 5 September 2018 (UTC)

Make sure to fix breadcrumbs when moving a page

Hi SelfieCity. I see you moved Food to Food and drink a few days ago, but you didn't fix the breadcrumbs in all the subtopics. For all the articles in Category:Food, the "PartOfTopic" template needs to be fixed to link to Food and drink instead of Food. I don't have time to fix them all now, so I hope you can. If not, I can fix them when I have the time. In the future please make sure to do this when you move a page. —Granger (talk · contribs) 00:54, 19 September 2018 (UTC)

Oh, really sorry about that. Actually, Telstra tried to do that, and I reverted it! So sorry, I did not realize this had to be done. --Comment by Selfie City (talk about my contributions) 01:01, 19 September 2018 (UTC)
So I made a start and I’ve done quite a few now. --Comment by Selfie City (talk about my contributions) 01:09, 19 September 2018 (UTC)
No worries, you didn't know. Thanks for doing most of them! Just so you know for the future, it's also necessary to create a new category and adjust the subcategories as I've done here: [1] [2]. (To be clear, all this stuff is only necessary when moving an article that has other articles breadcrumbed under it—for bottom-level articles you don't need to worry about it.) —Granger (talk · contribs) 03:39, 19 September 2018 (UTC)
Is that why that weird blue triangle thing came up when I first changed the categories? --Comment by Selfie City (talk about my contributions) 01:04, 20 September 2018 (UTC)
Yes. —Granger (talk · contribs) 02:06, 20 September 2018 (UTC)
I see. --Comment by Selfie City (talk about my contributions) 04:01, 20 September 2018 (UTC)