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Welcome to my talk page! If you want to see older talk page discussions, go to my archive, which includes discussions from 2017 through 2019. Discussions from the beginning of 2019 to the present are shown below. If you're unsure about something I did or you have some other question related to something I've done, etc., feel free to click the "Add topic" button at the top of this page and add what you want to say. Thanks!

Thank you for being on vandal patrol today.[edit]

Butter tarts on cutting board(8293490785).jpg

Have a butter tart (or several). Ground Zero (talk) 03:27, 12 January 2020 (UTC)

Thanks, although I wish I had been on the website when the vandalism itself took place. --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 12:27, 12 January 2020 (UTC)

An award for you![edit]

Barncompass.png The Wikivoyage Barncompass
Impressive work on the New Smyrna Beach article! —Granger (talk · contribs) 20:18, 25 April 2020 (UTC)
@Mx. Granger: Thanks! By the way, if you see me undo your recent edit, I'm just adjusting the language to address the specifications you mentioned, not reverting your changes. --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 20:21, 25 April 2020 (UTC)
Actually, I like the flow of the current draft. I do think, however, that the summer temperatures are similar to those of a tropical rainforest climate, so that comparison will likely help tourists, but the others can go for sure. I'll add some more temperatures as you mentioned. --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 20:23, 25 April 2020 (UTC)
Okay, sounds good. —Granger (talk · contribs) 20:25, 25 April 2020 (UTC)
Award well-deserved. The most noticeable thing about the climate in a tropical rainforest is the extreme humidity - the air feels very thick and heavy. Is this the case in NSB? Coastal towns usually have a breeze running through them which freshens things up.--ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 20:49, 25 April 2020 (UTC)
Yes. On the immediate coast, there is a breeze, but once you leave the coast and go inland even a short distance, such as a mile or two, the humidity increases. --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 20:51, 25 April 2020 (UTC)
Ah. I've just noticed there's quite a lot of 'Do' listings inland.--ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 20:57, 25 April 2020 (UTC)
Yes, while the beach is a popular destination (and deservedly so), I've also tried to emphasize that there are destinations west of the Intracoastal Waterway that are worth visiting for more adventurous explorers. Also, the Mainland region east of I-95 itself extends quite a way inland, even though it may look like a short distance on the map. Distances are large in NSB. --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 20:58, 25 April 2020 (UTC)
@ThunderingTyphoons!, Mx. Granger: While I'd still consider it tropical rainforest, I've changed it to "wet tropical" because I think that is probably an even better suited term with which I think we'd all agree (the climate graph is helpful). --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 19:09, 26 April 2020 (UTC)
Okilly dokilly :P--ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 19:20, 26 April 2020 (UTC)
Unless there is a preferred alternative wording.
I think the city receives more rain than almost anywhere in England... --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 19:21, 26 April 2020 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── Yes, it does. Who'da thunk it?--ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 19:26, 26 April 2020 (UTC)

Exactly. It doesn't feel like it rains as much, though, because it's sunnier...though not at the moment, ironically as England has been sunny lately apparently. --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 19:28, 26 April 2020 (UTC)
Yes, and it happens more than you'd think :) --ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 20:10, 26 April 2020 (UTC)

Boating banner[edit]

Thanks for the banner for Boating in Finland! I don't know how you found that image, but I think it, in the banner version, is very typical for Finland. You even managed to get three different types of such small boats: a traditional wooden one, an inland plastic rowing boat and a typical somewhat more modern small outboard motor boat. --LPfi (talk) 17:24, 14 May 2020 (UTC)

Lady Franklin's husband's Expedition[edit]

Hi there. I'm not a native Anglophone and have no grasp about these minutiae on articles and such. I thought the article should refer to "THE expedition of her husband" and thus wrote it. Thanks for the corrections, the splitting of paragraphs, and for not editing anything out. Ibaman (talk) 17:31, 14 May 2020 (UTC)

I think the current text should be clear enough, but I'll take a look and make any adjustments necessary for clarity. Thanks for mentioning this. --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 17:43, 14 May 2020 (UTC)


You're a pleasant partner, dude, I admire your high-energy style; if we ever had quarrels, they were always most civil, and always for the ultimate benefit of Wikivoyage. This is most appreciated. In this spirit, I ask you to devise a banner for Yuquot, and make the final tweaks if needed, so we can have another Guide article. Ibaman (talk) 17:55, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

I’ll add a page banner shortly. Thanks for writing this article. --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 18:12, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
Yes Done Thanks for the kind words. --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 18:16, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

Innisfail (Queensland)[edit]

I see that you created a banner for Innisfail (Queensland), which was uploaded 12 minutes before mine. I added mine to the article, and only discovered yours when I went to Wikidata to add mine. I don't think that there is a clear winner between the two banners, so I will let you choose, and I am happy if you revert my edit. AlasdairW (talk) 21:18, 25 May 2020 (UTC)

Ironically, I noticed the same image when I was considering which one to use. I'm not concerned either way, so let's use the new page banner you uploaded. We could use the original picture, for the previous banner, in the article if you also like it, as it seems to be a high-quality image showing the city. --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 21:20, 25 May 2020 (UTC)

File:Small text.tiff[edit]

Hi! If you so firmly believe that this file is not in Commons’ project scope and thus should be kept here, please nominate it for deletion on Commons. If the result of the RfD there is deletion, you were right keeping it here; if the result is keep, it can safely be deleted here, as it’s quite unlikely to be deleted in a second RfD. The current situation, in which the file exists in both places, is definitely the worst possible. Regards, —Tacsipacsi (talk) 13:54, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

@Tacsipacsi: AndreCarrotflower had already taken the same action earlier, and I was simply (as far as I know) reverting to the revision he made. --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 14:53, 26 May 2020 (UTC)
But I suppose you reverted because you agree with him. Anyways, I left a message on his talk page as well; please either of you take steps in some direction. —Tacsipacsi (talk) 22:38, 3 June 2020 (UTC)
As he's a bureaucrat, I — perhaps wrongly — reinstated his reversion. He'll probably respond with a day or two at most, probably less. --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 22:41, 3 June 2020 (UTC)


Hi dude. I'm following the edits on Russian cities as of today; the insistent copyedit to enforce British spelling sounds oddly familiar here. Let's keep an eye open on this one. Just a heads-up. Ibaman (talk) 15:46, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

OK, thanks for letting me know. Sorry I forgot about that individual. --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 16:21, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

Biting newbies (unintentionally)?[edit]

Hi. I saw the article just like you. I think we should let the new editor edit for a bit before we put a welcome message on their page or various "this needs to be fixed" tags on the article. At least if we wish to test the theory that welcome messages actually make people less likely to stick around, not more... Hobbitschuster (talk) 15:20, 17 June 2020 (UTC)

True. I won't make any more changes to the article or the talk page for a while unless s/he responds. --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 15:21, 17 June 2020 (UTC)
But I do think it is worth noting that I only added one tag, and that at the talk page and the article I tried to be as polite about the matter as possible. Like you I want to encourage new editors to continue to contribute. --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 15:33, 17 June 2020 (UTC)
I think in this case it all worked out... Hobbitschuster (talk) 16:03, 17 June 2020 (UTC)


Swept in from the pub

In User:SelfieCity/Maps how can I prevent part of Okeechobee not showing as part of the mapshape due to overlap between the lake and the counties? --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 19:22, 15 June 2020 (UTC)

Telstra vandal[edit]

Hey there. Sorry but because I was not an admin yet when the Telstra vandal thing started, please let me know what I should look out for so I can block an revert when I encounter him/her. Thanks. The dog2 (talk) 18:08, 28 June 2020 (UTC)

I can send you an email, perhaps? --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 18:19, 28 June 2020 (UTC)

Sure, go ahead. I have activated the e-mail user option. The dog2 (talk) 18:34, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
Yes Done. I have sent the email. --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 18:57, 28 June 2020 (UTC)

Hot Weather (Water use restrictions?)[edit]

Thanks for the update.

Not sure if it belongs here, but Hot Weather also may lead to water restrictions in some regions. (Western Australia being one I can recall specifcally.) ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 10:11, 30 June 2020 (UTC)

I would have associated it with droughts (not every place with heat is dry), but as an article about droughts doesn’t exist, a mention of that concern is entirely appropriate. California is another good example of a place with water restrictions (back in the 2010s), along with Great Britain, to a lesser extent. --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 10:52, 30 June 2020 (UTC)

Regarding your edit summary here[edit]

I added the comment to something I wrote myself to justify the use of the term "Abrahamic religions" instead of singling out Islam or Judaism... Hobbitschuster (talk) 14:18, 31 July 2020 (UTC)

Maybe, but I don't see why it has to be in the "edit" section of an article so that anyone else who happens to be editing sees this somewhat insensitive comment on a controversial issue. I really don't see why you didn't just write <!--Mike Pence for example--> or something of that nature, rather than what you wrote. I'm sure people will know what a shorter edit summary indicates, and if they don't, they can always make a search on the internet.
I'm also a little confused by the edit comment itself, since if there are obvious contradictions to the statement, why would we write it in the first place?
In order for Wikivoyage to look like a professional website, we ought to use edit comments as though they are as publicly visible as everything else on the website, since they can be accessed simply by clicking the "edit" button. I'm not concerned with the political side of this, since I'd have the same concerns no matter what the beliefs of the particular individual happened to be.
Thanks for replying regarding this issue.--Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 14:27, 31 July 2020 (UTC)
I edited out the religion entirely from the passage. E.g. here, in a secular/Lutheran Nordic country few would say has a conservative religion, many women prefer men not to sit down next to them (most don't mind, of course, unless you smell or don't behave). Suggesting the woman to ask the man getting up so that she can stand instead or choose another seat is ... I don't know what to say. --LPfi (talk) 16:38, 31 July 2020 (UTC)

Queen Creek[edit]

Hey SelfieCity, thanks for redirecting Queen Creek to Greater Phoenix. I just wanted to let you know that I'm working on a userspace draft for a Queen Creek article, and once that is complete, I will remove the redirect and replace it with a full-fledged article. Please let me know if you have any questions, comments, and/or concerns. Thanks! --Prahlad balaji (talk) 23:12, 13 August 2020 (UTC)

OK! Thanks for letting me know. --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 10:38, 14 August 2020 (UTC)

Welcome back[edit]

It's been a while since we last saw you, so welcome back to Wikivoyage. The dog2 (talk) 17:23, 8 November 2020 (UTC)

@The dog2: Thanks! Good to be back here again. --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 17:25, 8 November 2020 (UTC)
Yeah, I second that, good to see you around dude. Ibaman (talk) 17:53, 8 November 2020 (UTC)
Yes indeed. Glad to see you here.--ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 19:06, 8 November 2020 (UTC)

New Smyrna Beach banners[edit]

Hey SelfieCity! I notice you've been less active on Wikivoyage lately, but I want to draw your attention to Wikivoyage:Destination of the month candidates/Banners#New Smyrna Beach in case you have any input. —Granger (talk · contribs) 11:11, 21 November 2020 (UTC)

Happy New Year[edit]

Hi there dude! Good to see your name on the Recent Changes list. Hope you're doing fine and ready for another year of travel guide adminship. Best vibes from South America! --Ibaman (talk) 14:13, 1 January 2021 (UTC)

Thanks, and I'm definitely ready for another year of adminship and contributing! Last year was quite something but hopefully I'll be able to contribute more regularly again this year. Good to see that everyone is still here! --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 14:16, 1 January 2021 (UTC)
as of last week, we've started historical pieces on Medieval Europe and Byzantine Empire, and I've been busy tweaking Brazilian cuisine, you might want to check these out, your tweaks are welcome as always. --Ibaman (talk) 14:32, 1 January 2021 (UTC)
Great! I'll certainly enjoy reading those. --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 14:32, 1 January 2021 (UTC)


Hi, can you have a look at this person contributions as they seem to be mass-creating/editing pages with the same content. Thanks Nintendofan885 (talk) 17:26, 2 January 2021 (UTC)

@Nintendofan885: Thanks for letting me know, and sorry I didn't see this before. Most of the edits have been reverted and a few more will be removed in due course. --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 17:46, 2 January 2021 (UTC)
No problem, thanks --Nintendofan885 (talk) 17:48, 2 January 2021 (UTC)


Thanks for the new banner for Western Ethiopia. Excellent work. Nurg (talk) 08:26, 11 January 2021 (UTC)

Sure thing! I enjoyed finding pagebanners for Ethiopia articles, though some were easier than others. I've started on Egypt now. --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 22:35, 11 January 2021 (UTC)

Delete speedy deletion candidates[edit]

Hi, can you delete the pages in Category:Speedy deletion candidates thank you --Nintendofan885 (talk) 16:35, 24 January 2021 (UTC)

Yes Done --ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 16:58, 24 January 2021 (UTC)

Partial bans?[edit]

Hi SelfieCity, I saw your comments on Talk:Brussels/International_District#Should we include screaming warning boxes about racism? where you said that the problem could be solved "if it's just for the attention of getting these Brussels districts done". Just wanted to tell you that some time ago I had a discussion with an admin on another wiki who suggested (I think, not sure) that users can be partially blocked only from certain pages. I am not an admin so might have misunderstood, but if I did understand correctly, would banning AC from Brussels/International_District be a solution? Hope I am not wasting your time, Ottawahitech (talk) 18:08, 27 March 2021 (UTC)

It would not be a solution, as the same type of content could be inserted anywhere. The question is whether we trust the user at all, whether we can ignore him evading blocks and thus showing disrespect for community decissions, and whether we want him here at all after what he did (see the quotes I pointed out as answer to your question at the pub). –LPfi (talk) 06:52, 28 March 2021 (UTC)
Ottawahitech, sorry for the late response. The user in question is already banned, but it’s correct that partial blocks are possible (and have been used). However they’re rarely the best option as most malicious users are best not using the website. --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 12:59, 11 June 2021 (UTC)

Welcome back![edit]

It's good to see you again. Hope you had a refreshing break. Gizza (roam) 23:15, 31 May 2021 (UTC)

I'm glad to see you back, too. It's good to have you around. Ground Zero (talk) 23:32, 31 May 2021 (UTC)
Thanks, I had a busy time of year. I should be around more again now. --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 19:04, 1 June 2021 (UTC)


Ikotun is a metropolitan City in alimosho Local government Area(LGA) Of Lagos State.

OK! Maybe a good idea to keep it as a city article then. --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 21:26, 2 June 2021 (UTC)
@Favourdare123:, also don't forget to sign your comments like this (~~~~). SHB2000 (talk | contribs | en.wikipedia) 03:26, 11 June 2021 (UTC)

Nale Mathatho[edit]

Just so you know, SHB2000 did some investigation and found that this user account was created for the purpose of block evasion. Accordingly, I have extended the block to indefinite. The dog2 (talk) 22:06, 10 June 2021 (UTC)

Have a look at c:Commons:Administrators' noticeboard/User problems#Naledi Mathatho, THE GIRL MOLLY, and Mollytheone for some history on commons and I'm sure you've seen User talk:Ikan Kekek#I had my suspicions... by now. This user has vandalised my talk page as well on commons [1]. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | en.wikipedia) 22:09, 10 June 2021 (UTC)
I’m sure we’ve had him under a very similar name recently, but anyway his way of writing looked familiar. I will review the links. --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 02:01, 11 June 2021 (UTC)
Thanks for keeping up to date on this situation. --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 02:04, 11 June 2021 (UTC)
I'm not keeping up with this user on MediaWiki, but I trust an admin on MW has got that handled. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | en.wikipedia) 03:21, 11 June 2021 (UTC)
And vandalism on my commons talk page ... again. [2] SHB2000 (talk | contribs | en.wikipedia) 12:51, 11 June 2021 (UTC)
Wow. Is this the same as the one who sends out emails? I got two a couple months ago but never bothered to open them. --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 12:56, 11 June 2021 (UTC)
No, that's GRP/Ljupco, a vandal and globally banned user who has been stalking, intimidating and harassing user:Antandrus since 2005 (16 years now). He attacks specifically him on dozens of WMF projects, but not on the English Wikipedia, since he's an admin there, and ever since I nominated him for admin here, he's sort of ceased harassing most editors here (except me, as I nominated him for adminship). You could have a little look at the history for my talk page, userpage, slang archive pages, hence, it's been protected for about two months now, and every now and then, he still attacks some editors here. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | en.wikipedia) 13:08, 11 June 2021 (UTC)
Also, I've been emailed by Ljupco/GRP about 45 times now, on an email that I no longer use. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | en.wikipedia) 13:09, 11 June 2021 (UTC)
Yeah, I’ve kept up to date with admin nominations and I’ve had to deal with the user before on another wiki, so he’s familiar. --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 13:42, 11 June 2021 (UTC)
Yeah, he attacks me cross wiki as well. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | en.wikipedia) 13:44, 11 June 2021 (UTC)
Also, all five of Naledi Mathatho's accounts have been locked now. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | en.wikipedia) 01:18, 12 June 2021 (UTC)

Hi there, could you block the User: IP range? These are the IP range used by this user. (see the info on commons). SHB2000 (talk | contribs | en.wikipedia) 00:14, 14 June 2021 (UTC)

Like this? I've never blocked an IP range before, so I'm assuming it's the same as how an IP address or account is normally blocked. --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 00:21, 14 June 2021 (UTC)
I think so. I've never blocked an IP range before, but I think that's how you block the IP range. There's also a request on meta to globally block this range, so hopefully she keeps out. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | en.wikipedia) 00:56, 14 June 2021 (UTC)
Yes, thanks for letting me know about this, and hopefully it works. --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 00:57, 14 June 2021 (UTC)
A /17 range is 32,000 IPv4 addresses. One should be in real trouble to block such a range even for a short while. –LPfi (talk) 06:48, 15 June 2021 (UTC)
This was the range blocked on commons, and is what's proposed for a global block. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | en.wikipedia) 08:19, 15 June 2021 (UTC)
And the fact that she's been using these IP adresses for about a year now. Also, do we have any editors that are from Johannesberg that would need an IP block exempt? SHB2000 (talk | contribs | en.wikipedia) 08:24, 15 June 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for the update[edit]

A thank to you and SHB2000 for the updates on Wikivoyage:Nordic countries Expedition! They got me to fix some low hanging fruits, including a few that just needed checking and promoting. There are still a few I'd want to promote, but with info on the net scarce and perhaps outdated. –LPfi (talk) 18:29, 20 June 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for appreciating the updates! Articles about the Nordic countries are definitely making a lot of progress. --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 18:30, 20 June 2021 (UTC)
:) SHB2000 (talk | contribs | en.wikipedia) 23:00, 20 June 2021 (UTC)

An award for you![edit]

Murtala Muhammed International Airport, Lagos, Nigeria - 2019-11-07 - IMG 9490.jpg Nigerian café Barncompass
For helping set up the café, and assisting users about how Wikivoyage works. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | en.wikipedia) 01:34, 29 June 2021 (UTC)
Thanks. It was a pleasure to help out! --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 01:54, 29 June 2021 (UTC)
:) SHB2000 (talk | contribs | en.wikipedia) 01:58, 29 June 2021 (UTC)

Edit conflicts[edit]

Sorry, just helping out. Highjumpermsu (talk) 18:49, 8 July 2021 (UTC)

@Highjumpermsu: Yeah, don't worry about it! It's a common occurrence on wiki. I like what you're doing, but if adding listings for a park (as there aren't many things to do in this town), probably go with the larger ones, as this one appears to be a city park. In this case it's okay because there aren't many things to do in Zephyrhills, but in articles about places where there are many things to do, we don't include city parks. (Ones with major features such as a sports facility would be an exception.) --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 18:53, 8 July 2021 (UTC)
Okay, Thank you for understanding. Highjumpermsu (talk) 18:58, 8 July 2021 (UTC)
@Highjumpermsu: I would recommend enabling the edit conflict beta feature which can be found in Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-betafeatures. It's the very bottom one, and it doesn't require much to install it. Just a click SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 09:04, 9 July 2021 (UTC)
✔ done. Highjumpermsu (talk) 15:11, 9 July 2021 (UTC)

Jabolero as an autopatroller[edit]

I'm a little doubtful about making him an autopatroller. Do you see any replies from him on his user talk page? I think he's User:Josh Rayver with at least his third username after User:Mayon V, unless I'm forgetting a fourth username. Sure, this user's edits have improved quite a bit since those days, but I'm not prepared to trust him at this point. I could be wrong. Ikan Kekek (talk) 20:14, 12 July 2021 (UTC)

Okay, I was not aware of this history. I can remove autopatroller status. Talk page discussion seemed okay. --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 21:21, 12 July 2021 (UTC)
Done --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 21:25, 12 July 2021 (UTC)
Thanks. Ikan Kekek (talk) 22:43, 12 July 2021 (UTC)

Passing through[edit]

Could you please clarify your sentence "Highways that pass near or directly through (such as most U.S. routes) offer more opportunity to avoid too much time behind the wheel." Through the rest stops? I suppose you mean through something else. –LPfi (talk) 07:52, 15 July 2021 (UTC)

I think it means just passing through marked US routes. (so not county routes or just rural roads). SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 07:55, 15 July 2021 (UTC)
No, LPfi Is right. I missed a couple crucial words there. I have updated it to make more sense now. --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 10:46, 15 July 2021 (UTC)
Thanks mate :) SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 10:55, 15 July 2021 (UTC)
Thanks. –LPfi (talk) 18:39, 15 July 2021 (UTC)
I still wonder. Passing through a city is usually slower than using a bypass, which means more time behind the wheel, but also opportunities to do more interesting things than having a coffee at a truck stop. Sometimes it makes sense to take the fastest route, sometimes spending more time to avoid feeling the time before reaching a destination is wasted makes more sense. Cf the boaters: with a speedboat you will soon be at your destination, with a sailboat you are there as soon as you have left the mooring. There are better places for this discussion, so it should be kept short in this article, but a few sentences and a link may be warranted. –LPfi (talk) 18:50, 15 July 2021 (UTC)
I think it could do with some more explanation and sections though, because these are the subtleties that most likely need to be explained. For a start not all towns here have a bypass, particularly in the rural West. And in some places the U.S. routes are slow and the scenery ugly, cheap 1950s motels along former major routes, etc. Maybe within the article types would be a place to start, so stay healthy sections in Trains, Driving, Cycling, etc. --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 19:18, 15 July 2021 (UTC)
I know there is some discussion on slow travel somewhere, but I didn't find it. There should be some in Tips for road trips, although I don't find any section on route planning there. There could be some more discussion in Travel basics and Transportation. I tried to expand the Physical fitness#On the road passage on driving a little. –LPfi (talk) 19:44, 15 July 2021 (UTC)
One problem is the current skew toward traveling by car, while the topic is far broader than that. It feels that this should be a general article with summaries and links to more specific travel information. Some information about fitness once you reach the destination would be helpful as well. --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 20:08, 15 July 2021 (UTC)
Yes. I suppose all discussion on what spots are suitable for rest, and how to find them, should be moved to Tips for road trips. –LPfi (talk) 06:19, 16 July 2021 (UTC)
@LPfi:, I also thought the same until 2 weeks back where a bypass only lets you go like 80km/h (despite being a 100km/h road) but going through the town lets you go 100 or 110km/h. So while going through a town is almost always slower, sometimes, bypasses are slower as well. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 21:56, 15 July 2021 (UTC)
I don't think that happens in European cities. Getting through the centre is usually difficult and time consuming. For smaller towns going through the centre may be nice and not taking significant time, but congested bypasses is a problem only by the big cities. –LPfi (talk) 06:23, 16 July 2021 (UTC)
This really isn't the case anywhere, except if the road quality of the bypass is very poor, and poorly maintained and the road quality of the route going through the town is good. It's particularly prominent in alpine areas on non-highways but just small rural roads. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 06:32, 16 July 2021 (UTC)

Fax numbers[edit]

Are fax machines really popular in Ogun State? And do a lot of travellers use fax machines? It doesn't seem to me to be worth adding in blank fax number spaces into listings that don't have fax numbers. It is extremely unlikely that anyone will ever add these numbers -- if these places even have fax machines -- and they add clutter to the edit screen. Ground Zero (talk) 19:50, 20 July 2021 (UTC)

I'm using (and testing) AutoWikiBrowser. Thanks for bringing up this issue as while I had been reviewing the changes it made, I didn't realize it was causing this to happen. --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 19:51, 20 July 2021 (UTC)

30000th edit![edit]

A few edits early... but happy 30000th edit :) SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 11:51, 26 July 2021 (UTC)

Thanks! I knew I was getting there. --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 11:59, 26 July 2021 (UTC)
I like it when I literally can see how much edits each person has with this tool: Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-gadgets (the Navigation popups tool). possibly the second best gadget I could've asked for. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 12:02, 26 July 2021 (UTC)
Indeed. I just added it in preferences as I didn't know it did those things as well. Normally I use XTools but this is faster. --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 12:03, 26 July 2021 (UTC)
It's particularly useful for vandal patrol but has a lot of other purpose as well (like a quick link to block an editor). SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 12:07, 26 July 2021 (UTC)
Yeah, and I also like that it gives byte count and last edit, which is useful for finding out an article's length and whether it has been edited recently, respectively. --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 12:14, 26 July 2021 (UTC)