- The link is no longer valid. (WT-en) Jamboo 09:08, 22 March 2008 (EDT)
Watching the South Island New Zealand discussion on regions, it is obvious if I am possibly the only contributer on this issue here it would be best to leave explanations of why and how the various articles and regions link. I have made a few mistakes already, but hope the final result is better than what I found. Almost all the Tasmanian articles are outlines, and of fairly sketchy quality. Once I have checked a few things I will put up my suggestion for ammendment of the current Tasmania/regions/cities/etc structure... it may take a few days or more to come up with the proposal. sats (talk) 04:25, 24 January 2013 (UTC)
- The regions as listed are the standard regions and correspond to how Tasmanians divide up the state (with one exception, there is is no "North", there is only "North-east" and "North-west" - I'll be altering this shortly). You'd need a pretty good reason to change from that, particularly as it would no longer correspond to how the tourism services in the state approach things. Manning Bartlett (talk) 23:19, 24 January 2013 (UTC)
- which is exactly why i did the above message 0 just in case there was another editor interested - I am not sure your assertions are based in fact having been a tasmanian and also having done the regions article on wp en - feel free to change stuff, but as I had said I am in no rush to change anything, as it is, the lack of anything of substance about the southwest is a major issue, and the southeast and hobart things are a mess sats (talk) 23:59, 24 January 2013 (UTC)
- OK so in one sense there is according to some versions no 'northern tasmania' (it is used widely in a range of tourism and other publications) - a good guide is the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Local_government_areas_of_Tasmania - and their groupings. Conflating the regions into 5 seems a bit much, perhaps a conversation raher than assertions and change could help negotiate a better outcome sats (talk) 00:26, 25 January 2013 (UTC)
- http://www.discovertasmania.com/launceston_tamar_and_north for something current, and also my copy of treasure islander for june 1989 also has it - so I really think it is a point of conversation or discussion, rather than a single editors assertion sats (talk) 02:55, 25 January 2013 (UTC)
- No probs. I've been a Tasmanian all my life and seriously, I have yet to hear anyone ever refer to "the North", only the North-west, North-east and Tamar Valley. Even that link you gave has a map which only shows the North-east region (despite calling it "The North"). The body text also only ever refers to the "North-east'. If any tourist starts asking locals about "The North" they'll get a strange look as well. Still I'm not bothered by it - I just find it pretty odd.
- as far as how many groups there should be, five seems like a decent number, and corresponds to how Tasmanians generally view the state (it's also how the Discover Tasmania site approaches it). Whether the Central Highlands gets grouped on its own, under Northwest coast or under the West Coast is all a bit arbitrary. The argument for listing along with the NW Coast is that Devonport is the primary access point to the Cradle area. The argument for the West Coast is it ties in with the "Wilderness heritage" aspect (which is what the Discover Tasmania site does). Grouping on its own seems a little pointless IMO. Manning Bartlett (talk) 05:25, 25 January 2013 (UTC)
- The problem with this strange thing called wikivoyage - its not our personal experience (I was a west coaster, and regular commuter throuh the central highlands to hobart - which in itself was looked upon by the locals as odd as the west coast orientation was always to the north west or even melbourne rather than hobart) - but the requirements of wikivoyage format -you might think grouping is pointless - after having changed it to your preferred clumping, ther preferred format is for the visitor traveller (aka mainlander) - where if you see the requirements as espoused by this project is quite different from wp en or other sites.So arbitrary or pointless is not what I am seeking - more - if the traveller goes to tassie fromthe mainland - how do they organise their visit - with most ofthe articles for tasmania to date being atrocious quality - it is embarassing to say the least to even be editing the mess that is there, so just to get articles to tie into the 5 regions (as long as no one else comes in and insists on another variation)- it is a case of a consensus of the 5 main regions and then cleaning up the mess... like trying to get some reasonable quality information into the outline articles once they in the correct region... sats (talk) 05:49, 25 January 2013 (UTC)
- So the problem of claims for areas regions and their priority within a heirarchy for tassie regions is that it depends who you are and where you are looking from - west coasters - as I have mentioned are oriented to the north west coast historically it was their 'way out' by emu bay, ship or otherwise - the road to hobrt came quite late in time and was a killer until our lifetimes (relatively speaking)... so your comments about the 'the north' means either youve been istanbul too long :), or somehow you are related literally or metaphorically to the pollies who wanted to move parliament house to lonnie :) , in general the regional rivalries and the ramifications in politics go back to my old home town of queenie was in a region that was politcally and demographically equal to lonnie and hobart and was trying to flex its muscle - just before the zeehan silver mines failed or about that time - pre first world war. (all this could go into an understand section about tasmania - this is not wp en and the regional rivalries thing is quite unique compared to bloated over sized states on the mainland. )
so I do hope you get my drift - there aspects of this that could go into 'understand' about tassie - and the need for groupings and explaining the connections is an important part of editing and improving the article - is very very 'un' wp en - but a vital part of wikivoyaga imho. sats (talk) 09:25, 25 January 2013 (UTC)
I've worked extensively updating the Tasmania article on WT. I've been having issues with them and only just found out what when on with IB. So I've only just discovered WV and will be migrating some of my articles over. So a heads-up that I'm not just cutting and paste work that isn't mine. Dukenemesis (talk) 10:34, 31 December 2013 (UTC)
- Completely understood, and welcome! However, there is another consideration: Search engines tend to penalize pages on different sites that are substantially similar to preexisting pages. So you might consider doing some paraphrasing, if possible, although you do have the right under the Creative Commons license to use your work in any way you like, as I understand. Ikan Kekek (talk) 11:11, 31 December 2013 (UTC)
Regions and map
|Southeast Tasmania |
The most populous region of Tasmania. Hobart is Tasmania's capital and largest city. Hobart is also the second oldest city in Australia.
|Northeast Tasmania (Launceston, Ben Lomond, Bridport, Campbell Town, George Town) |
This area encompasses the city of Launceston and the Tamar Valley, the mountainous region of Ben Lomond, the Midlands, and the North East.
|North West Coast (Stanley, Wynyard, Somerset, Burnie, Devonport, Cradle Mountain, Latrobe) |
Small coastal townships and cities following the coast. And some very scenic inland areas.
|East Coast (St Helens, Bicheno, Scamander, Swansea, Freycinet Peninsula, Maria Island) |
Stunning beaches including the Bay Of Fires and Wine Glass Bay, voted some of the most beautiful beaches in the world.
|West Coast (Queenstown, Strahan) |
The West Coast has long been the centre of mining in Tasmania. This region has the smallest population of any region in Tasmania.
|South West National Park |
This whole region is protected inside the Southwest National Park.
|Bass Strait Islands (King Island, Flinders Island) |
The two secluded but very scenic islands in the Bass Strait between Tasmania and mainland Australia.
The Central Highlands seem to be missing in regions. It is a off the beaten path area with a few small fishing towns but it is getting attention of travellers with its lakes and scenic beauty. Gizza (roam) 23:05, 8 October 2017 (UTC)
- I think the Tasmania regions needs some attention overall. Probably the least well defined in our Australia articles. Just go forth and fix :) Andrewssi2 (talk) 23:15, 8 October 2017 (UTC)