User talk:Jay mitchell

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Provo Canyon

Nice work with Provo Canyon. However, I'm somewhat concerned that it doesn't meet our criteria for What is an article?. The most basic criteria is "Can you sleep there?". I spent 6 weeks in Provo in 2011 and had the opportunity to go up the canyon and take the Alpine (twice...absolutely beautiful when coming from flat, featureless Florida!!) and Sundance isn't really in the canyon, while Deer Creek State Park is just outside (??).

In my opinion, it seems like the bigger issue is that Wasatch Front needs to be divided into regions. This may sound intimidating to a new user, but is probably the best way to tackle all the destinations within the mountains. From my (basic) understanding, the region can be divided into the 4 populated basins of the Utah Valley (Provo/Orem), Salt Lake city-area, Brigham City/Ogden area, & Logan area (Cache Valley?); the Wasatch mountains; & the places east of the Wasatch (Wasatch Back?...Park City, Heber, & places along WY border). You can see how big a region Wasatch Front covers in the Utah regions map (right). If this were done, then the Wasatch Mountains would cover all the various canyons, ski resorts, & state/national parks/forests. Since the ski resorts offer accommodation and camping is an option, this would make for a great guide. Even if the region doesn't get divided (or you don't feel like getting involved in such a discussion), it would make for a better guide to write a guide for the whole mountain region...Provo Canyon, American Fork Canyon, Spanish Fork Canyon, Cottonwood Canyons, & others together with info about the parks/forests & ski resorts.

Again, sorry if this sounds a little intimidating to a new user, but you've done a good job with Provo Canyon & given the large number of things to do in the mountains, it just seemed like a good idea to ask about writing a guide to the whole mountain area. If you have any questions, just write a response here or on my talk page. I wouldn't mind helping with such a page, but as one of the dozen or two really active users on WV, I'm preoccupied with the launch and cleaning up all the new edits we've been getting. AHeneen (talk) 07:05, 17 January 2013 (UTC)

I think that's a great idea, and I can get that started. Splitting the area into the different valleys and their associated mountains would probably be the most natural way somebody in this region would view it - Cache Valley, Odgen Valley, Salt Lake Valley, Utah Valley and Heber Valley (backside of Salt Lake and Utah Valleys).

The canyons between Salt Lake/Utah Valleys and Heber Valley - mainly Parley's Canyon and Provo Canyon - might be a little ambiguous, but for most travelers they'd probably associate them more with the Salt Lake/Utah Valleys than Heber Valley since most are coming from those population centers.

The most intimidating part of this is updating the region map. Is this something I would have to do to start this split, or can we live with an outdated map for a bit?

--Jay Mitchell (talk) 21:41, 17 January 2013 (UTC)

No, you wouldn't need to worry about the map (there are a number of users with good map skills). AHeneen (talk) 23:08, 17 January 2013 (UTC)