User talk:Rappey

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Hi! Please don't copy articles from Wikipedia or other sources to Wikivoyage. That's first a copyright violation and secondly we are a travel guide and not a encyclopediac. jan (talk) 15:32, 18 January 2013 (UTC)

Hi! I deleted the Maledive island again because it is a copyright violation. Please use our template and feel free to start the article. jan (talk) 15:41, 18 January 2013 (UTC)

Copy pasting from Wikipedia is not allowed

Hi!

Your contributions to Ukulhas looks to me as copy pasted content from Wikipedia. From the earlier messages on this talk page I can see that you've done it before several times. It's not allowed, so please let this be the last time. Even if copy pasting was "legal" this is a travel guide, read and used by travelers, who need other kind of information presented in another way than that which is convenient for an encyclopedia. So — unfortunately I will now have to remove the content that you've added and replace it with a standard template, which you (and anyone else) can start working with to make an Ukulhas travel guide. Thank you and have a nice day. ϒpsilon (talk) 18:14, 3 February 2014 (UTC)

I think we both may realise that neither jan nor ϒpsilon were entirely accurate nor appropriate in what they wrote above.

Since you may have been the author of some (if not most) of the text in the Wikipedia article (and I certainly admire your lively images), it is entirely permissible for you to copy paste your own words to the new Ukulhas article. If those words are too dry or encyclopaedic, then of course it would be better to change their tone.

Where other people's words on WP are concerned, it is technically possible to give adequate attribution by citing the WP revision you are copying from in your edit summary - but, again it's better if our article does not appear the same word for word.

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It's good to know that you were responsible for the content of the Wikipedia article, but you also should account for differences in style and goals between the two sites. Don't expect to be able to just copy and paste articles which, while Wikipedians might find them insufficiently encyclopedic, look overly detailed to Wikivoyagers. Also, please be mindful of redundancies, which wouldn't be part of the style of either wiki. Ikan Kekek (talk) 05:24, 18 September 2014 (UTC)

Please reply to this page

I see no evidence that you've read any of the previous messages on this page, so I will only say that if you continue to ignore them and engage in wholesale copy-pasting from Wikipedia - with footnotes and refs, even - it may be necessary to briefly block your account to try to get your attention. w:Ukulhas is already linked from Ukulhas, so why would you want to duplicate all that encyclopedic content here? Ikan Kekek (talk) 07:12, 5 July 2014 (UTC)

I'm really sorry (talk), well in Wikipedia all the articles about Ukulhas are written by me. By the way Wikipedia has suggested me to change those articles to encyclopedic descriptions and suggested to move all the relevant articles to Wiki voyage. So I suggested to delete all the travel articles and move it to Wikivoyage. So I think now what i did was correct. I would humbly request you to leave my articles to Wikivoyage. Thanking you! Ramiz Rappey (talk) 18:53, 17 September 2014 (UTC)

No-one has proposed deleting the articles; we just have been editing them to remove encyclopedic content, redundancies, and other deviations from this site's manual of style, which you should have a look at. Ikan Kekek (talk) 06:12, 18 September 2014 (UTC)

Please read don't tout. Any edit you make that includes a touty listing of a hotel or any other business will be reverted, especially as you have started to edit war with me on Ukulhas Inn. Edit warring, especially to tout, will not be tolerated, so please stop. If you read the don't tout page, you'll understand that listings about a hotel have to actually be about the hotel, not the island it's on, and cannot be promotional but have to be merely descriptive. Ikan Kekek (talk) 09:49, 23 September 2014 (UTC)