File talk:DutchFood Witbier.JPG

VFD Discussion

Commons image of a similar bottle

Commons image of a similar glass

This file does not "illustrate an important work of art or architecture". Also, it's not used on any article. Globe-trotter (talk) 16:36, 9 August 2013 (UTC)

Could be added to Holland's drink section. --Saqib (talk) 16:49, 9 August 2013 (UTC)

No, it couldn't. What's really at issue here is the fact that the image's fair use rationale is invalid. -- AndreCarrotflower (talk) 20:38, 9 August 2013 (UTC)

• Speedy delete per Globe-trotter. -- AndreCarrotflower (talk) 20:38, 9 August 2013 (UTC)
• Delete. Commons has 62 files in Category:Beers of the Netherlands including a glass of the same beer and loads of different bottles, so there is no shortage of similar images. AlasdairW (talk) 22:24, 9 August 2013 (UTC)
• Transwiki to Commons; the logo is both de minimis and probably not copyrightable. LtPowers (talk) 23:34, 9 August 2013 (UTC)
• Just delete. Copyright status is not entirely clear and it is not a particularly good photo, so it is not worth moving to Commons. Pashley (talk) 00:35, 10 August 2013 (UTC)

  The depth of field isn't ideal, but other than that it looks like a very good photo to me. And what's unclear about the copyright status? LtPowers (talk) 17:11, 10 August 2013 (UTC)

  To me, the badly located elbow ruins it. As others have correctly said above, the fair use rationale is invalid. Even you only claimed it was "probably not copyrightable". Also, that rationale cites US law for an image shot in Europe & used worldwide. Pashley (talk) 23:16, 10 August 2013 (UTC)

  I only said "probably" because I'm not a lawyer. Admittedly I didn't notice the elbow. Still, unless there's a substantially similar image on Commons, I think this would be valuable there. LtPowers (talk) 14:50, 11 August 2013 (UTC)

  I have added the existing commons images of the same bottle and glass. To me they are fairly similar (or better), but obviously they are separate images. AlasdairW (talk) 18:01, 11 August 2013 (UTC)

  Better for encylopedic purposes, but I think Jani's image is more interesting. The logo is already on commons in other images, so lets just move this one there. --Inas (talk) 23:03, 11 August 2013 (UTC)

There is no harm in moving it to Commons, so that's what I've done. If they don't want it, they can still delete it. Globe-trotter (talk) 23:36, 11 August 2013 (UTC)

Result: Moved to Commons. Globe-trotter (talk) 17:21, 12 August 2013 (UTC)