Talk:Diving in South Africa

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Was this deliberate? Pinging @LPfi, Pbsouthwood, Nelson Ricardo 2500:. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 10:58, 17 August 2021 (UTC)

Seems so. See Talk:Diving the Cape Peninsula and False Bay#Table of contents. –LPfi (talk) 11:30, 17 August 2021 (UTC)

I was participating in that discussion, but there's a good reason for that, but couldn't find any for this one. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 11:33, 17 August 2021 (UTC)

@Pbsouthwood: I'd like a link to the discussion that established consensus. With that link, one could see what the arguments were, and see whether they apply more broadly. I don't even know whether or not the discussion was about diving articles in general. –LPfi (talk) 12:22, 17 August 2021 (UTC)

Without saving, I restored the standard page banner TOC to see what it looks like. It looked fine and normal to me. I prefer to restore our usual Wikivoyage-style TOC. If I see the original consensus discussion, I am willing to change my mind if the circumstances remain the same. Nelson Ricardo 2500 (talk) 16:53, 17 August 2021 (UTC)

LPfi I looked for the discussion but haven't found it yet. From memory, it was not specifically about diving articles, but it may have been relevant to travel topics in general, as sometimes they do not fit well into the standard destination article structure. As I mentioned, the article Diving the Cape Peninsula and False Bay passed Star assessment, which requires compliance with accepted article formatting, therefore the formatting was accepted at the time as necessary and appropriate when the usual TOC makes section navigation excessively cumbersome. If you can find a way to make it work that allows the user to navigate no less conveniently than the current TOC I will be happy to use it. I will not be happy to have the articles forced into unusability just to conform with a style preference.

Nelson Ricardo 2500 The situation was and probably remains quite simple. There are some travel topic pages that need more sections and subsections in the TOC to be conveniently navigable than the banner TOC can provide. We tried, and did not get it to work. We looked into the possibility of coding drop down menus into the banner, but that did not get far. Feel free to experiment by changing the TOC and trying to find your way to what you need. It is easy to revert if it does not work as well as the current TOC, all I ask is that you give it a proper test of user friendliness, in desktop and mobile view, as if you were using it to learn about diving in the region. Let me know how it goes. Cheers, • • • Peter (Southwood) ^(talk): 17:53, 17 August 2021 (UTC)

This is great. It appears that the drop downs now work. Thanks, I will revisit Diving the Cape Peninsula and False Bay and see if it works there too. Cheers, • • • Peter (Southwood) ^(talk): 05:43, 18 August 2021 (UTC)

@Pbsouthwood: tested it out on that article, and it works there too. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 05:54, 18 August 2021 (UTC)