Talk:Greater Hobart

I will expand this article further, but for now it is 1am here and I need to sleep. Let me know if you have any feedback, or well, feel free to add to it yourself of course. :) JTdale (talk) 13:55, 23 March 2022 (UTC)

Providore?

This word is used in the article. What is it supposed to mean? Merriam-Webster gives its definition as " variant spelling of provedore." Looking up "provedore" produces: "Definition of provedore: purveyor, proveditor." By the way, proveditor is:

• 1 : a functionary in the Venetian republic having oversight of public services and government of provinces or acting as military adviser
• 2 : one employed to procure supplies (as for an army, company, ship) : purveyor

None of this seems to make sense in the context of this article:

"The cellar door is open, along with a providore, tasting tours, and daily history tours of the historic house."

So what is the intended word or meaning? Ikan Kekek (talk) 20:48, 28 March 2022 (UTC)

Providore / Provedore (both spellings seem interchangeable) in Australia means a high end shop (sometimes with attached delicatessen) selling condiments, pickles, jams, honey, preserved or cold meats, candles, wine, and spices and herbs. I don't have a subscription to Macquarie Dictionary (The Australian official dictionary) to see if they provide a specific definition beyond that, but that is how its used generally and how Old Kempton use it on their website, as well as a lot of other Australian companies. JTdale (talk) 20:30, 29 March 2022 (UTC)

Yeah I think provedore is British and American spelling while providore is Australian (as I get a wavy red line under provedore but not if I change my computer language settings to en-US/en-GB) while I have no idea what NZ uses, but what JTdale mentioned was similar to what I thought it meant too. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 21:23, 29 March 2022 (UTC)

Until yesterday, I had never seen the word in either spelling, let alone heard the word. I think in the U.S., we'd call that a high-end specialty store. Is the meaning of this word explained in Australia#Eat or Australia#Buy? Ikan Kekek (talk) 02:03, 30 March 2022 (UTC)

alternatively, without having to edit the country article, we could use <abbr title="a high end shop (sometimes with attached delicatessen) selling condiments, pickles, jams, honey, preserved or cold meats, candles, wine, and spices and herbs.">providore</abbr> which produces providore. Only mentioning here because I kinda want to test that feature out somewhere. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 02:11, 30 March 2022 (UTC)

Dunno, is it Wikivoyage-like to do that kind of thing? I kind of feel like it isn't, and it would be something to discuss. But where? In Wikivoyage:External links or Wikivoyage:Listings, or somewhere else? Ikan Kekek (talk) 02:30, 30 March 2022 (UTC)

The same coding mechanism is used in {{time}} (which {{time|10AM|4PM}} gives you 10AM–4PM) which is used on about 85 pages, so using <abbr title="a high end shop (sometimes with attached delicatessen) selling condiments, pickles, jams, honey, preserved or cold meats, candles, wine, and spices and herbs.">providore</abbr> won't be a Wikivoyage first. Also, Wikivoyage en français does this to nearly every page. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 02:40, 30 March 2022 (UTC)

They also put inline Wikipedia links everywhere, don't they? (I haven't checked lately.) Time and measurements are special cases, or at least could be. Ikan Kekek (talk) 02:42, 30 March 2022 (UTC)

And links to Wikispecies too. tbh they do use a lot of templates, but it does provide a nice output and layout that I quite like. The only templates of theirs I don't like is their hours template which its only two jobs are to standardize formatting (which can be done without a template like what we do), and when you hover on h (as in 9 h 40), it gives you h – pretty pointless. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 03:31, 30 March 2022 (UTC)