Talk:Greater Hobart
Add topicLatest comment: 2 years ago by SHB2000 in topic Providore?
I will expand this article further, but for now it is 1am here and I need to sleep. Let me know if you have any feedback, or well, feel free to add to it yourself of course. :) JTdale (talk) 13:55, 23 March 2022 (UTC)
Providore?
[edit]This word is used in the article. What is it supposed to mean? Merriam-Webster gives its definition as " variant spelling of provedore." Looking up "provedore" produces: "Definition of provedore: purveyor, proveditor." By the way, proveditor is:
- 1 : a functionary in the Venetian republic having oversight of public services and government of provinces or acting as military adviser
- 2 : one employed to procure supplies (as for an army, company, ship) : purveyor
None of this seems to make sense in the context of this article:
"The cellar door is open, along with a providore, tasting tours, and daily history tours of the historic house."
So what is the intended word or meaning? Ikan Kekek (talk) 20:48, 28 March 2022 (UTC)
- Providore / Provedore (both spellings seem interchangeable) in Australia means a high end shop (sometimes with attached delicatessen) selling condiments, pickles, jams, honey, preserved or cold meats, candles, wine, and spices and herbs. I don't have a subscription to Macquarie Dictionary (The Australian official dictionary) to see if they provide a specific definition beyond that, but that is how its used generally and how Old Kempton use it on their website, as well as a lot of other Australian companies. JTdale (talk) 20:30, 29 March 2022 (UTC)
- Yeah I think provedore is British and American spelling while providore is Australian (as I get a wavy red line under provedore but not if I change my computer language settings to en-US/en-GB) while I have no idea what NZ uses, but what JTdale mentioned was similar to what I thought it meant too. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 21:23, 29 March 2022 (UTC)
- Until yesterday, I had never seen the word in either spelling, let alone heard the word. I think in the U.S., we'd call that a high-end specialty store. Is the meaning of this word explained in Australia#Eat or Australia#Buy? Ikan Kekek (talk) 02:03, 30 March 2022 (UTC)
- alternatively, without having to edit the country article, we could use <abbr title="a high end shop (sometimes with attached delicatessen) selling condiments, pickles, jams, honey, preserved or cold meats, candles, wine, and spices and herbs.">providore</abbr> which produces providore. Only mentioning here because I kinda want to test that feature out somewhere. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 02:11, 30 March 2022 (UTC)
- Dunno, is it Wikivoyage-like to do that kind of thing? I kind of feel like it isn't, and it would be something to discuss. But where? In Wikivoyage:External links or Wikivoyage:Listings, or somewhere else? Ikan Kekek (talk) 02:30, 30 March 2022 (UTC)
- The same coding mechanism is used in {{time}} (which
{{time|10AM|4PM}}gives you 10AM–4PM) which is used on about 85 pages, so using <abbr title="a high end shop (sometimes with attached delicatessen) selling condiments, pickles, jams, honey, preserved or cold meats, candles, wine, and spices and herbs.">providore</abbr> won't be a Wikivoyage first. Also, Wikivoyage en français does this to nearly every page. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 02:40, 30 March 2022 (UTC)- They also put inline Wikipedia links everywhere, don't they? (I haven't checked lately.) Time and measurements are special cases, or at least could be. Ikan Kekek (talk) 02:42, 30 March 2022 (UTC)
- And links to Wikispecies too. tbh they do use a lot of templates, but it does provide a nice output and layout that I quite like. The only templates of theirs I don't like is their hours template which its only two jobs are to standardize formatting (which can be done without a template like what we do), and when you hover on h (as in 9 h 40), it gives you h – pretty pointless. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 03:31, 30 March 2022 (UTC)
- They also put inline Wikipedia links everywhere, don't they? (I haven't checked lately.) Time and measurements are special cases, or at least could be. Ikan Kekek (talk) 02:42, 30 March 2022 (UTC)
- The same coding mechanism is used in {{time}} (which
- Dunno, is it Wikivoyage-like to do that kind of thing? I kind of feel like it isn't, and it would be something to discuss. But where? In Wikivoyage:External links or Wikivoyage:Listings, or somewhere else? Ikan Kekek (talk) 02:30, 30 March 2022 (UTC)
- alternatively, without having to edit the country article, we could use <abbr title="a high end shop (sometimes with attached delicatessen) selling condiments, pickles, jams, honey, preserved or cold meats, candles, wine, and spices and herbs.">providore</abbr> which produces providore. Only mentioning here because I kinda want to test that feature out somewhere. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 02:11, 30 March 2022 (UTC)
- Until yesterday, I had never seen the word in either spelling, let alone heard the word. I think in the U.S., we'd call that a high-end specialty store. Is the meaning of this word explained in Australia#Eat or Australia#Buy? Ikan Kekek (talk) 02:03, 30 March 2022 (UTC)
- Yeah I think provedore is British and American spelling while providore is Australian (as I get a wavy red line under provedore but not if I change my computer language settings to en-US/en-GB) while I have no idea what NZ uses, but what JTdale mentioned was similar to what I thought it meant too. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 21:23, 29 March 2022 (UTC)