Talk:Linnanmäki

Merits an article?

Linnanmäki doesn't pass the sleep test (visitors don't sleep there). Thus, a priori, it shouldn't have an article. The guideline mentions "big free-standing theme parks like Disneyland or Cedar Point" as an exception, But Linnanmäki isn't Disneyland. It also explicitly says "but not amusement parks in or next to a city, such as Coney Island or Tivoli".

The article is now classified as a city, which it clearly is not, even according to our practice, which includes towns and villages (see also Wikivoyage:Geographical hierarchy). It is now PartOf Helsinki/Inner East, a city district. Districts don't have subarticles. If it were huge, it might be classified as a city district, in parallel with the Inner East, but it isn't huge. One could also make it a park, but again, it's not large enough for that.

Exceptions can be discussed, but exceptions make the geographic hierarchy less clear and thereby make navigating the site harder. So exceptions should be reserved for oddities like Los Angeles (and Disneyland). In my understanding Linnanmäki is just an ordinary amusement park in a city, like hundreds of others. Yes, it's well-known in Finland, but I don't think that's enough.

So, is there something that makes this article especially valuable to our readers? Are there things you need to know before you come, that cannot be told in Amusement parks, in an ordinary listing or in a subsection of the city article Do? Is Linnanmäki hard to navigate, so that you'd like to have the article open on your smartphone screen when there? I suppose you can find the restaurants and see what the rides are like when you are there. For the rest of the article content, I think it could be included in a one-paragraph listing with no major problems.

–LPfi (talk) 08:46, 30 December 2024 (UTC)

I don't know how to feel – it's a decent article, but it's also not exactly in scope for an article either. I don't know if this should be made an exception, or only be made one if it is decently expanded. I'll defer to you since you know this place far far better than me haha. SHB2000 (t | c | m) 09:23, 30 December 2024 (UTC)

I haven't been there in many years, and only a few times in all, so I might have missed things. I am surprised that it is described as "one of the most-visited in Europe". It's the most well-known in Finland, and a "must" for any excursion to Helsinki for some age segments. As it draws from all of the "densely" populated Finland, I can imagine it has a larger base than e.g. most German cities. The question is whether we want to have articles for such one-company entities. I don't see why this would be special, but I am also not sure whether such articles would be a problem, given that they are linked only through listings in regular destination articles – allowing hem would require a guideline change, however. –LPfi (talk) 09:48, 30 December 2024 (UTC)