Talk:Montana

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I'm really new here -- just editing what I know and what I can at a time, adding links, etc. as I go. If i'm doing anything wrong or you have suggestions, please let me know... (WT-en) lyssstwrt 10:12, 23 August 2006 (EDT)

I've been watching this article, and you're doing great so far. Nice work! -- (WT-en) Ryan 14:34, 23 August 2006 (EDT)

Regions

Should we create the regions that are currently still red links? They are based on the state website... are those super common names for those divisions, or should we do a simpler northwest, southcentral, etc? Those 6 divisions do look reasonable, but what should we name them? – (WT-en) cacahuate ^talk 14:46, 7 May 2008 (EDT)

The names are hardly super common, at least compared to the typical two-part division of Western and Eastern (and it's weird to consider Bozeman as "Yellowstone") - but the actual geography seems like a reasonable starting point. I'd say use them with directional names, possibly lumping the two eastern regions into a single "Eastern Montana" article, and mention the flowery names in the article intros so the search engines can still get at it. – (WT-en) Dguillaime 17:22, 5 February 2009 (EST)

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That is one very fun banner ;) --Peter ^Talk 19:08, 9 May 2013 (UTC)

Names of the Montana regions

In the official State touristic website, the regions inside Montana are called in this way in the second page of the Italian, German and French guides:

• Glacier region
• Central Montana
• Missouri river region
• Southwest Montana
• Yellostone region
• Southeast Montana

while in at page 23 of this English guide:

• Glacier Country
• Central Montana
• Missouri river Country
• Southwest Montana
• Yellostone Country
• Southeast Montana

So why in this article are called in a different way? Respectively:

• Glacier Country
• Russell Country
• Missouri River Country
• Gold West Country
• Yellowstone Country
• Custer Country

--Andyrom75 (talk) 17:30, 13 July 2015 (UTC)

There is no need for WV to follow any body else's subdivisions or the names thereof. Sometimes we don't subdivide at all were administrative subdivisions exist, as those are of no concern to visitors... In fact some of the subdivisions may be pushing it already, as they don't seem to contain all that much of interest, which should be the main focus --Hobbitschuster (talk) 18:40, 13 July 2015 (UTC)

Well, I don't know if you have got the time to open the above mentioned pdf, but the areas are IDENTICAL to the one in Wikivoyge, but in Wikivoyage has been changed their names. Furthermore those divisions are not the administrative ones, but the official touristic ones. --Andyrom75 (talk) 20:10, 13 July 2015 (UTC)

Even if that is the case, we are still not bound by it. It may have been done for SEO reasons for all I know. WV can and in fact does call regions by any word it wants on a quite regular basis. In fact often when it doesn't we get stuff like Eastern County X Hobbitschuster (talk) 23:54, 13 July 2015 (UTC)

Please be serious... There's no SEO nor logic reason to change the official name of a territory; on Wikivoyage we create a new name only when doesn't exist an official one, linked to the defined area. If in a guide I would find that they have changed the name of "Chianti" with "Wine region" I wouldn't think that they are "creative" but just ignorant. --Andyrom75 (talk) 05:38, 14 July 2015 (UTC)

Tourism board names aren't official - they change frequently - so based on the #Regions discussion above my guess is that the existing regions were probably created with names that were in use in by the State of Montana Tourism Department in 2008. The second group of names above seem clearer to me than what we're currently using in the Montana article, so I wouldn't oppose a change if there is a desire to make one. -- Ryan • (talk) • 05:45, 14 July 2015 (UTC)

Ryan, let me better define what I meant with "official". I'm not saying that they are static forever, also a country can change the name (e.g. Belgian Congo->Democratic Republic of the Congo, Siam->Thailand, etc.). What I said is that if there's an office, entitled to name a touristic division of a territory, that office is the official tourism association of that territory; not a fan club, not a magazine, not a travel guide. On the other hand, each one of them can divide the territory in many different ways chosing the names that they want. What is wrong for me in this article is picking the "official" division changing their names.

Your guess about name change form 2008 makes sense (although I have no evidence, but it's not so important right now). I would suggest to redirect the current name into the "official" ones, correcting also all the affected breadcrumbs. --Andyrom75 (talk) 13:15, 14 July 2015 (UTC)

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Region names - revisit

The region names for Montana have officially been changed for many years now. There are guidebooks and websites using these names directly from the state government. You will find nothing searching for the names previously used. I know it's a pain to change the existing categories and page names, but I also think it is worthwhile and adds accuracy to this page and the categories. The current names are found at visitmt.com, the Montana Office of Tourism official site. There is also a map at brand.mt.gov.

The current regions are:

• Central Montana (previously Russell Country)
• Glacier Country
• Missouri River Country
• Southeast Montana (previously Custer Country)
• Southwest Montana (previously Gold West Country)
• Yellowstone Country

Please consider changing these 3 regions. Thanks Tbennert (talk) 21:59, 21 March 2023 (UTC)