Talk:Rail travel in the Czech Republic

Copyedits by a native speaker

Thanks for starting this article first of all! I think it would be great to get an English native speaker to do some copy-edits. Any takers? Hobbitschuster (talk) 21:22, 19 September 2018 (UTC)

Would be happy to have a look at it tomorrow. --ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 20:41, 20 September 2018 (UTC)

What does this mean?

"from A to B (via C, maybe D) or from X to Y, that does not matter"

I understand up until the point where X and Y are introduced. What do they represent? --ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 10:54, 21 September 2018 (UTC)

Points X and Y represent the possibility of the All-day Ticket. It is similar, for example, to London Day Travelcard. The variety of points (A, B, C, D, X, Y) should represent that you do not buy this ticket for a specific route and it does not really matter how many journeys you make in that day and where you will travel. I will, for example, change the points with cities: "from Prague to Brno (via Pardubice, maybe Kutná Hora) or from Pilsen to Ostrava, that does not matter" Séba PRG (talk) 12:36, 21 September 2018 (UTC)

I think it would be easier to say "unlimited travel during the entire day". Hobbitschuster (talk) 16:33, 21 September 2018 (UTC)

I agree with Hobbitschuster that it is clearer just to say what you mean. For the journeys which require a certain route "Going to A to B, via C" makes sense to me, and doesn't need a real example, but it wouldn't hurt to include one.--ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 16:42, 21 September 2018 (UTC)

Yeah, I agree, that would be better. So I changed it to the "unlimited travel during the entire day" version. Séba PRG (talk) 16:54, 21 September 2018 (UTC)

Students 18-26 years

Does this discount apply specifically to students (in which case, how do foreigners prove they are a student?) or do they apply to anyone aged 18-26? --ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 10:56, 21 September 2018 (UTC)

Yes, this discount applies specifically to students. Both local and foreigners prove it with ISIC - International Student Identification Card. - Séba PRG (talk) 12:25, 21 September 2018 (UTC)

Thanks! That needs to be stated in the article, if you please. --ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 12:26, 21 September 2018 (UTC)

Train types

I found some inaccuracies in the new version of "Train types" section. Firstly, we cannot separate "ČD services" and "private operators" because not all Os, Sp, R and Ex trains are operated by ČD. Better would be to rename the "ČD services" to something like "General services" (if that does make sense in English) and "private operators" can stay "private operators" or rename it to something like "private services" or "other services"... Secondly, we cannot mix IC, SC, EC and rj trains together. They may look almost the same but in fact, they are not. They are very similar, that is right, but there are certain differences. For example, EC, rj and some IC trains do not require mandatory reservation. So if you will not mind, I will fix it.

Séba PRG (talk) 15:50, 21 September 2018 (UTC)

I don't mind at all! I know nothing about the subject matter, whereas you do. What struck me was there seemed to be a lot of repetition and, as a casual reader, this didn't help me much in distinguishing between the different trains. Could you highlight the differences rather than repeating the stuff (i.e. serves main cities, has high standard, modern carriages etc) that they have in common? --ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 15:57, 21 September 2018 (UTC)

In Germany we have a distinction between "Regionalverkehr" (RB, RE, S, IRE) and "Fernverkehr" (IC, ICE, EC, ECE, Flix). I think the two categories in the Czech Republic are broadly similar albeit distinct in details. Would you agree? Hobbitschuster (talk) 16:35, 21 September 2018 (UTC)

Yes, Czech trains can be separated into two categories like in Germany - regional services (Os, Sp, TL, TLX) and long-distance services (R, Rx, Ex, IC, EC, SC, rj, EN, LE, RJ, AEx). Séba PRG (talk) 16:46, 21 September 2018 (UTC)

My gut would tell me "R" stands for regional. Is there an official Czech Railway subdivision or a legal one? Hobbitschuster (talk) 17:28, 21 September 2018 (UTC)

It is misleading, but, in fact, in the Czech Republic "R" stands for "Rychlík". That literally means "Fast train" and it is traditional (and official) category of long-distance trains. Séba PRG (talk) 18:20, 21 September 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for the info. I added a section for international offers but thus far they only include German and Austrian offers, as I am sure there are Slovak and Polish offers, I'd be much obligated for anybody who adds them. Hobbitschuster (talk) 19:02, 21 September 2018 (UTC)

Yeah, I will add offers of the ČD and other operators a little bit later, probably tomorrow. Séba PRG (talk) 19:27, 21 September 2018 (UTC)

┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘ Thank you! Hobbitschuster (talk) 19:44, 21 September 2018 (UTC)

InKarta

The discount card InKarta https://www.cd.cz/en/jizdne/in-karta/default.htm seems to be missing from the article. Given that there are some options that are of interest even to foreign visitors, I think it should be added! Hobbitschuster (talk) 10:35, 3 September 2023 (UTC)