Talk:Magic Mountain

VFD discussion

Six Flags Magic Mountain

Per Project:What is an article?. Unlike Disneyland and some other parks, Six Flags Parks are not full resorts, offering no on-site accommodation.

• Delete - (WT-en) Texugo 01:15, 29 November 2007 (EST)
• Is it well enough known that we should have a redirect from this title, or from Magic Mountain, to Valencia? We do this for things like Taj Mahal for people who might know the attraction name but not know where it is. (WT-en) Pashley 06:24, 29 November 2007 (EST)
• It's fairly well-known in the Cali-Nevada-Arizona area I suppose, but certainly not on world-fame par with Disneyland. A redirect wouldn't bother me. My point is that Six Flags has literally dozens of amusement parks all over North America and we don't have (or need) articles for any of the others, not even the flagship Texas location. Plus the article has a lot of pretty useless information. What use to the traveller is it to have a list of every t-shirt and stuffed animal shop and every vendor in the amusement park? (WT-en) Texugo 22:12, 29 November 2007 (EST)
• Delete. There are too many Six Flags parks across the US to tie this redirect to one area. (WT-en) Gorilla Jones 00:12, 30 November 2007 (EST)
• Redirect to Valencia (California). Each "Six Flags _______" can be redirected to its own locale. - (WT-en) Todd VerBeek 14:52, 11 December 2007 (EST)
• Redirect to Valencia (California) ~ 203.144.143.4 17:37, 18 December 2007 (EST)
• Delete. A redirect from Magic Mountain, the common English name, would be OK, though perhaps unnecessary. However, we do not need one from the longer formal name. (WT-en) Pashley 18:58, 18 December 2007 (EST)
• Looks like a redirect to me, unless someone tips the consensus in the next few minutes... -- (WT-en) Bill-on-the-Hill 23:59, 22 December 2007 (EST)

Recreating this article

NOTE: The above VFD discussion is from 2007. Since that time Wikivoyage:What is an article#Exceptions has been updated to include: "Big free-standing theme parks like Disneyland or Cedar Point...but not amusement parks in or next to a city, such as Coney Island or Tivoli." I would argue that an article about Magic Mountain is acceptable, but if there are concerns let's discuss. -- Ryan • (talk) • 16:46, 13 October 2013 (UTC)

I think this belongs at Magic Mountain. The longer name may be OK as a redirect. Pashley (talk) 17:01, 13 October 2013 (UTC)

Ryan, your quoted line was present in the policy page even during the above deletion discussion. I wonder what was updated? No on-site accommodation was the main reason of its previous deletion and even now, I don't see if accommodation available on-site. --Saqib (talk) 17:15, 13 October 2013 (UTC)

I've started a discussion at Wikivoyage talk:What is an article?#Theme parks (again). -- Ryan • (talk) • 17:55, 13 October 2013 (UTC)

@Pashley - moving this to Magic Mountain (and leaving a redirect) seems like it would make sense. -- Ryan • (talk) • 18:07, 13 October 2013 (UTC)

I've renamed the article to "Magic Mountain" per the "most common name" guidance at Wikivoyage:Article naming conventions. As to the original concern about whether this is article-worthy, based on the "huge and complex" guidance and the "content would overload the parent article" guidance at Wikivoyage:What is an article#Exceptions, my reading is that keeping this article as a standalone article is supported by existing policy. -- Ryan • (talk) • 04:04, 16 October 2013 (UTC)