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The current text has " throat-singing or overtone-singing, is a method in which the singer simultaneously produces a low drone and a series of higher melodies over the drone note. This music is utterly unique ..." Actually, it is not entirely unique. Canadian Inuit (Eskimo) certainly have a well-developed tradition of throat singing and I think other arctic peoples do as well. There are differences, though; Tuvan throat singing is mainly done by men where the Inuit singing I have heard (all people from around Hudson Bay) has all been by pairs of women. Pashley (talk) 02:01, 4 April 2014 (UTC)Reply

Monks in Tibet do throat singing, too, but to my knowledge, the Tuvans have developed it to its greatest extent, with some florid melodies. If you haven't heard Tuvan throat singing, I encourage you to check it out. Ikan Kekek (talk) 02:06, 4 April 2014 (UTC)Reply
There is a rather fine movie w:Genghis Blues about a blind American singer visiting Tuva. It has a web site. Would a link be appropriate here? I'd say yes, but am not certain. Pashley (talk) 12:52, 13 February 2016 (UTC)Reply
What section would you include it in? Ikan Kekek (talk) 19:02, 13 February 2016 (UTC)Reply
In the discussion of throat singing. Pashley (talk) 03:06, 15 February 2016 (UTC)Reply
Yes Added at Tuva#Understand. Pashley (talk) 19:52, 3 March 2016 (UTC)Reply

Rail service update

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According to the article, a railway to Kyzyl was supposed to have been completed in 2012. Was it completed? Please update. Ikan Kekek (talk) 02:24, 29 February 2016 (UTC)Reply

Rail?

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Current text has:

The new railway is now under construction, which is scheduled to finish by 2012.

Is it now running? Is there passenger service? Pashley (talk) 10:57, 15 April 2016 (UTC)Reply

No, according to the infobox in w:Tuvan Railway it won't open before 2020. ϒpsilon (talk) 14:53, 15 April 2016 (UTC)Reply
w:Tuvan Railway now says 2023. I updated our text. Pashley (talk) 11:53, 14 June 2021 (UTC)Reply

Name change?

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This was recently moved from Tuva to Tyva by User:Agilight. I'm inclined to think that was an error since policy at Wikivoyage:Naming_conventions is to use the commonest English name, & Tuva is the only name I have seen. WP has w:Tuva & the Genghis Blues site uses Tuva.

It does not matter much since there is a redirect, but I think we should move it back. Pashley (talk) 20:54, 19 July 2016 (UTC)Reply

Thanks. But you should know that this issue is changes: Enciclopedia Britannica. Russian word "Tuvinskii" is not relies on native pronounce. We pronounce Kyzyl (Кызыл), than we should call Tyva (Тыва). --Agilight (talk) 00:37, 20 July 2016 (UTC)Reply
As Pashley said, Wikivoyage policy is to use the name that's most commonly used in English, regardless of anything else. I, too, had never seen any name but Tuva, so I would also suggest changing the article's name back until such time as the Tyva spelling is used more in English-language publications. Ikan Kekek (talk) 07:52, 20 July 2016 (UTC)Reply
Yes Moved back now by User:Crocusfleur. Pashley (talk) 11:27, 14 June 2021 (UTC)Reply
I fixed most of the few links that pointed to Tyva.
The exception is Tyvan phrasebook which I think needs both a name change & some text changes. Pashley (talk) 12:00, 14 June 2021 (UTC)Reply
Yes Phrasebook fixed. Pashley (talk) 14:47, 14 June 2021 (UTC)Reply