Talk:Victoria

Obviously, Victoria (state) should really be named as Victoria. It's the primary topic. You don't get something like Quebec (province). Can't the current page be renamed? TravelAroundOz (talk) 12:01, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

Probably, but you'd have to establish that the name is used so much more for the state than it is for any of the other places with the same name. I think you're right, but it's not such a slam dunk. And by the way, there are Georgia (country) and Georgia (state) articles. Ikan Kekek (talk) 17:33, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

Well Ikan, Georgia the country and Georgia the state is both equally used, unlike Victoria. By looking at all of the articles, none are significant as Victoria (state). I'm not too sure about anything here on en wikivoyage but isn't it like WP:PRIMARYTOPIC on en wiki? TravelAroundOz (talk) 02:55, 14 February 2021 (UTC)

Like I said, I tend to agree with you, but Victoria (British Columbia) is the capital of the Canadian province of British Columbia and the Victoria Falls are a huge tourist attraction. And two people agreeing don't constitute a consensus as of yet. Ikan Kekek (talk) 04:37, 14 February 2021 (UTC)

Well, one's a city and the other one is a waterfall. Internationally, Victoria alone means Victoria (state). Victoria's significance to the country is similar to California or New York's significance to the US. Only thing, you don't have California (state) etc.

P.s. Also where the Australian Open happens. (it's happening, go Ash Barty and Nick Kyrgios)

TravelAroundOz (talk) 06:00, 14 February 2021 (UTC)

You still haven't realized that you're not arguing with me? Reread my last reply. Ikan Kekek (talk) 06:13, 14 February 2021 (UTC)

I did read it. p.s. I'm actually convincing, not arguing. (or at least, that's the fate I'm sending this in) TravelAroundOz (talk) 06:35, 14 February 2021 (UTC)

(Edit Conflict) On Wikivoyage it seems that the most popular Victoria destination is Victoria (British Columbia), the capital of a major Canadian province, followed by the state of Victoria and then Victoria (Seychelles), a capital of a nation, albeit a small one. If you include Victoria Falls then that's most popular. On Wikipedia, the state is slightly more popular but there are non travel destination Victorias, most notably the British queen after which all of these places are named, and she's the most popular article overall.

In terms of population, the Australian state is bigger than the Canadian city but Canadian Victoria is the second biggest city in British Columbia after Vancouver and also hosted the Commonwealth Games, so it's not insignificant by any means. Normally when one article is not clearly more important or popular than another we leave it as a disambiguation page. Gizza ^(roam) 09:33, 14 February 2021 (UTC)

That's pretty convincing. Let's leave things as they are, then. Ikan Kekek (talk) 16:34, 14 February 2021 (UTC)

Finally convinced. Considering that Tourist Drive 33 seems to have more views. TravelAroundOz (talk) 07:23, 15 February 2021 (UTC)