Talk:Whiskey
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[edit]As a whiskey-drinker, I’m glad this article was started. Is rye whiskey (rye for short) also native to North America? We should cover it. There are also very good Japanese whiskeys, nowadays, and Canada also deserves coverage. Ikan Kekek (talk) 21:58, 23 August 2019 (UTC)
- I only just came across this article recently, unfortunately. I added what I know, but unfortunately, I'm not that familiar with Canadian whiskies. I can try to scour the web for notable listings, but I wouldn't know what brands merit listings here. My understanding about Canadian whiskies is that they are corn-based, but with just a little bit of rye added to enhance the flavour. The dog2 (talk) 06:58, 25 January 2021 (UTC)
- Crown Royal is a solidly good whiskey. Otherwise, I don't know much about Canadian whiskey. Ikan Kekek (talk) 07:04, 25 January 2021 (UTC)
- And I guess ThunderingTyphoons! and AlasdairW could probably add some listings for English whisky, particularly those that have won awards.
- Only by looking them up :-/ I don't really drink whisky, and the only reason I know about Penderyn is because my dad is a collector so I've bought a fair few bottles of the stuff over the years.--ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 16:35, 25 January 2021 (UTC)
- And I guess ThunderingTyphoons! and AlasdairW could probably add some listings for English whisky, particularly those that have won awards.
- Crown Royal is a solidly good whiskey. Otherwise, I don't know much about Canadian whiskey. Ikan Kekek (talk) 07:04, 25 January 2021 (UTC)
Tennessee whiskey
[edit]Just wondering how should we cover it. Apparently, it has the same legal requirements are bourbon whiskey, with the additional requirement that it be made in Tennessee. So if that is true, it is essentially just a type of bourbon whiskey. But from the looks of it, the makers of Tennessee whiskey don't call their products "bourbon". The dog2 (talk) 17:16, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
- Isn't that how it's already covered? Ikan Kekek (talk) 17:53, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
- I was the one who wrote it, but I wanted to get more opinions to see if we can improve on the wording. Since you're a whiskey drinker, do you have any suggestions? The dog2 (talk) 18:01, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
- It seems OK to me. I think that there should be more information about scotch, though. See Alcoholic beverages#Distilled beverages. Peatiness is a special characteristic of scotch and some related styles (e.g., at least some Japanese whiskies). Ikan Kekek (talk) 19:37, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
- I was the one who wrote it, but I wanted to get more opinions to see if we can improve on the wording. Since you're a whiskey drinker, do you have any suggestions? The dog2 (talk) 18:01, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
- I wonder where they get peat from in Japan? --ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 20:04, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
- Dunno. I've read that Japanese whiskies tend to be scotch-style, but the ones I tried didn't taste that much like scotch to me. I haven't tried many but did like what I tried, and I don't like a high degree of peatiness. Ikan Kekek (talk) 20:10, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
- I'm not a big whisky guy myself, but I know that one of the inventors of Japanese whisky had his apprenticeship in Scotland. So Japanese whiskies are based on Scotch, but there's also probably some degree of innovation since the 19th century that would have taken Japanese whisky in a different direction from Scotch. Likewise Taiwanese whisky is based on Scotch (because Scotch was very popular in Taiwan before they invented their own whisky), but because Taiwanese whisky is largely a 21st-century invention, it doesn't have the same kind of tradition that Scotch, Irish or bourbon whiskies are constrained by, so that has allowed the Taiwanese distilleries to innovate in a way that the Scottish, Irish and American distilleries can't. The dog2 (talk) 21:24, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
- I wouldn't say that all Scotch whiskies are peaty. I mainly a characteristic of Islay and some Highland malts and is not noticeable in many Speyside ones. AlasdairW (talk) 00:03, 25 January 2021 (UTC)
- You wouldn't say that most are at least mildly peaty? What do you think of Glenmorangie and Oban, for example, which I've enjoyed and found somewhat but by no means extremely peaty. Ikan Kekek (talk) 00:36, 25 January 2021 (UTC)
- Hmm...maybe those are both Highland malts. I'll have to look at a list of Speyside ones to see if I've tried them. Ikan Kekek (talk) 01:40, 25 January 2021 (UTC)
- You wouldn't say that most are at least mildly peaty? What do you think of Glenmorangie and Oban, for example, which I've enjoyed and found somewhat but by no means extremely peaty. Ikan Kekek (talk) 00:36, 25 January 2021 (UTC)
- I wouldn't say that all Scotch whiskies are peaty. I mainly a characteristic of Islay and some Highland malts and is not noticeable in many Speyside ones. AlasdairW (talk) 00:03, 25 January 2021 (UTC)
- I'm not a big whisky guy myself, but I know that one of the inventors of Japanese whisky had his apprenticeship in Scotland. So Japanese whiskies are based on Scotch, but there's also probably some degree of innovation since the 19th century that would have taken Japanese whisky in a different direction from Scotch. Likewise Taiwanese whisky is based on Scotch (because Scotch was very popular in Taiwan before they invented their own whisky), but because Taiwanese whisky is largely a 21st-century invention, it doesn't have the same kind of tradition that Scotch, Irish or bourbon whiskies are constrained by, so that has allowed the Taiwanese distilleries to innovate in a way that the Scottish, Irish and American distilleries can't. The dog2 (talk) 21:24, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
- Dunno. I've read that Japanese whiskies tend to be scotch-style, but the ones I tried didn't taste that much like scotch to me. I haven't tried many but did like what I tried, and I don't like a high degree of peatiness. Ikan Kekek (talk) 20:10, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
- I wonder where they get peat from in Japan? --ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 20:04, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
Both Johnnie Walker and Chivas Regal use Speyside malts in their blends. The dog2 (talk) 01:57, 25 January 2021 (UTC)
- I like Chivas Regal. I would call it just very slightly peaty. Am I imagining that? Johnnie Walker is not peaty but I find it really harsh and can't drink it. Ikan Kekek (talk) 02:18, 25 January 2021 (UTC)
Japanese whisky
[edit]Have a look at this article. It looks like the Japanese industry body has enacted a new set of guidelines, but unlike in the terms "Sotch", "Irish" or "Bourbon", these rules do not have the force of law. The dog2 (talk) 17:45, 22 February 2021 (UTC)