User talk:Antanana
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Welcome to Wikivoyage
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Hello Antanana! Welcome to Wikivoyage.
To help get you started contributing, we've created a tips for new contributors page, full of helpful links about policies and guidelines and style, as well as some important information on copyleft and basic stuff like how to edit a page.
If you are a Wikipedian then you may notice some differences in policies and the style of our articles. These include:
- NPOV → be fair (not quite the same thing!)
- be bold → plunge forward
- Village pump → travellers' pub
- External links → We do not use a separate external links section, but incorporate primary links only into the text itself.
- sandbox → graffiti wall
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Judging from your edit and your page, you are familiar with at least one other project in the Wikimedia family. Please note that there is a general consensus to try and keep pages usable for offline use, be it printed out or pre-downloaded on some sort of mobile device. Being as this wiki focuses on travel. I still hope you stick around. Hobbitschuster (talk) 22:46, 26 September 2015 (UTC)
- hello :) @Hobbitschuster: I am indeed a newbie in wikivoyage. could you please enlighten me a bit? so how many pictures are okay to use? just to understand. for a slow connection even one can be a problem (I think). so how to decide if the picture of how terminal 2 looks inside is better (or even more relevant) than a picture of how the airport looks from above or terminal 1? --アンタナナ 22:59, 26 September 2015 (UTC)
- Okay, this is not really easy to explain, and maybe I was a bit rash with undoing your edits. We have a policy that is pretty much the opposite of "wikipedia is not paper". Originally one of our goals was to produce a printable guide. Now this has focused a lot more on any other type of offline version, though the policy appears to be in a state of flux. Still one goal is to make guides accessible even if Kilobytes become critical or expensive which is often the case if one is abroad from ones cell phone contract. That being said, I did not really see all that much value added in your pictures. On a topic like food some pictures may provide context as to how some food looks like. But as most airports look alike, more then one or two pictures should only be put there if it is something unique or special. But that is just my opinion with regards to policy. Maybe some more experienced users like User:Ikan Kekek or User:Ypsilon can further shed light on the issue, and/or give you more concrete advice (or indeed point out where I went too far if I did). Best wishes Hobbitschuster (talk) 23:28, 26 September 2015 (UTC)
- oh, I see. it is always a matter of what you happen to come across at first :) and the first wikivoyage article I have ever come across was Munich Airport and it has more pictures than Benito Juárez International Airport, so it does not really feel that the policy is very consistent --アンタナナ 03:21, 27 September 2015 (UTC)
- Okay, this is not really easy to explain, and maybe I was a bit rash with undoing your edits. We have a policy that is pretty much the opposite of "wikipedia is not paper". Originally one of our goals was to produce a printable guide. Now this has focused a lot more on any other type of offline version, though the policy appears to be in a state of flux. Still one goal is to make guides accessible even if Kilobytes become critical or expensive which is often the case if one is abroad from ones cell phone contract. That being said, I did not really see all that much value added in your pictures. On a topic like food some pictures may provide context as to how some food looks like. But as most airports look alike, more then one or two pictures should only be put there if it is something unique or special. But that is just my opinion with regards to policy. Maybe some more experienced users like User:Ikan Kekek or User:Ypsilon can further shed light on the issue, and/or give you more concrete advice (or indeed point out where I went too far if I did). Best wishes Hobbitschuster (talk) 23:28, 26 September 2015 (UTC)
- I actually don't think the number of photos you inserted into that article was excessive, though I'm not sure we need two photos of planes on the ground (the one with the Avianca plane and the picture of Terminal 1). I find the picture with the Avianca plane a bit nicer than the picture of Terminal 1, so I'd consider it fine to restore the first 2 thumbnails you inserted, if no-one objects. Ikan Kekek (talk) 05:13, 27 September 2015 (UTC)
- thank you, is it okay to create a short article about en:w:Cancún International Airport? even if you do not understand the language, you can still see that it is a stub-like entry uk:Канкун (аеропорт) --アンタナナ 05:25, 27 September 2015 (UTC)
- We don't want stub airport articles. I think you should ask about Cancun Airport in Wikivoyage talk:Airport Expedition. Ikan Kekek (talk) 05:58, 27 September 2015 (UTC)
- I haven't looked at the photos you've added, but for photos in the articles in general check out Wikivoyage:Image_policy#Minimal_use_of_images. That said, I personally add photos so that you always see at least a part of a photo when you're reading an article, otherwise articles start looking as black and white and boring as a letter from the Tax Bureau or whatever. I don't think MUC has too many photos, but when done writing this comment I'm going to move one of them to the latter half of the article which is completely void of photos.
- Concerning airport articles, we try to create as many as we must, not as many we can — if the content fits in the Get in section of the main city it serves it should usually not get its own article. If there are just a couple of sentences written in the destination article about the airport, if the creator simply moves that to the article, the article should perhaps not be created. Wikivoyage:Airport_Expedition#Article_criteria outlines two things, the airport should be large and have a lot of services and more importantly, a large part of the passengers should be connecting through the airport. For Cancun, I believe, practically everyone flies in, visits Cancun (and surroundings) itself and flies home.
- Hope that helps, and welcome to WV from me too! ϒpsilon (talk) 07:37, 27 September 2015 (UTC)
- Yes our policy on airport articles evolved from "none whatsoever" to "only when really needed" and the state of some of the borderline cases that currently have an article suggests that this policy was a wise decision. Other language versions however are not bound by our policy and indeed the German WV has an article on pretty much any dirt runway in Germany and many outside of it. Personally I don't really know if that serves the voyager. Hobbitschuster (talk) 14:04, 27 September 2015 (UTC)
- We don't want stub airport articles. I think you should ask about Cancun Airport in Wikivoyage talk:Airport Expedition. Ikan Kekek (talk) 05:58, 27 September 2015 (UTC)
- thank you, is it okay to create a short article about en:w:Cancún International Airport? even if you do not understand the language, you can still see that it is a stub-like entry uk:Канкун (аеропорт) --アンタナナ 05:25, 27 September 2015 (UTC)
- I actually don't think the number of photos you inserted into that article was excessive, though I'm not sure we need two photos of planes on the ground (the one with the Avianca plane and the picture of Terminal 1). I find the picture with the Avianca plane a bit nicer than the picture of Terminal 1, so I'd consider it fine to restore the first 2 thumbnails you inserted, if no-one objects. Ikan Kekek (talk) 05:13, 27 September 2015 (UTC)
[unindent] Just a followup on the Benito Juárez International Airport article: I restored the first 2 thumbnails you added, as no-one seemed to object to that. Ikan Kekek (talk) 22:14, 27 September 2015 (UTC)