User talk:Robkelk

Hello, Robkelk! Welcome to Wikivoyage.

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Using a consistent formatting style for dates and times makes it easier for readers to find the information, and makes Wikivoyage look better organized. Using different formats within a a an article looks particularly messy. For 12-hour clock, Wikivoyage's policy on time and date formatting tells us to use this format: M Tu 9AM-5PM; W 10AM-5PM; Th F 9AM-7PM; Sa Sun noon-5PM. Ground Zero (talk) 14:58, 30 July 2017 (UTC)

The local format in Gatineau is a 24-hour clock, and local signs are posted with that format. I'll do a sweep through the page once I've finished getting all of the data into it, and make the times consistent. --Robkelk (talk) 15:22, 30 July 2017 (UTC)

Okay. WV:TDF also offers a 24-hour format with the times above replaced by 09:00-17:00, etc. Ground Zero (talk) 17:52, 30 July 2017 (UTC)

For days of the week, per WV:TDF, we

"Abbreviate to the minimum number of letters – M Tu W Th F Sa Su – in lists and where space is short."

Ground Zero (talk) 19:19, 30 July 2017 (UTC)

Rob, I appreciate your contributions, but I must ask you to please respect the fact that the Wikivoyage community has chosen time and date formats and use them. They aren't the formats that I would choose, but I accept that it is easier for travellers to find information if we use consistent formats as much as possible. Please don't make work for other editors, when it is just as easy for you to use the correct formats in the first place. Thank you. Ground Zero (talk) 01:31, 11 August 2017 (UTC)

I thought I was using the Wikivoyage time format. --Robkelk (talk) 18:01, 12 August 2017 (UTC)

Here are some key points from WV:TDF:

• Use one of these formats: 09:30–17:00 or 9:30AM–5PM. Do not use both 24- and 12-hour formats within one article. Choose between formats by following predominant local usage. Ask yourself which format visitors will see in timetables, on shop doors and in newspapers.

24-hour format:

• Use 00:00 for midnight and 12:00 for noon.

12-hour format:

• Use upper case "AM" and "PM".
• Use noon and midnight, not 12PM and 12AM.

Days of the week:

• Abbreviate to the minimum number of letters – M Tu W Th F Sa Su – in lists and where space is short.
• When combining days with time, put the days first: M–F 10AM–2PM, not 10AM–2PM M–F.

I hope this clarifies things for you. Regards, Ground Zero (talk) 18:30, 12 August 2017 (UTC)

So we have two time formats, mutually exclusive. (sigh). When I do documentation for pay, I charge extra for that... --Robkelk (talk) 19:15, 12 August 2017 (UTC)

Yeah, I don't particularly like that policy either. It would be better to have one format, but I doubt that people would be willing to change it. You can always propose a change and see what people say. While two formats within the guide don't look great, using a variety of formats within an article really looks bad. That's what I'm trying to avoid. Ground Zero (talk) 22:48, 12 August 2017 (UTC)

What would be great would be to have a time conversion template like the distance conversion template - if someone who knows about templates would like to create one. Ikan Kekek (talk) 01:26, 16 January 2018 (UTC)

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	Thanks for your great contribution in Wikivoyage edit-a-thon 2018!

ויקיג'אנקי (talk) 18:40, 2 March 2018 (UTC)

Bagotville

I question this edit as the former "ville de La Baie" in Saguenay is not the same animal as La Malbaie. One's on the Saguenay river, the other's on the lower St. Lawrence river. Is there some other tie linking the CFB Bagotville air base in Saguenay to the G7? K7L (talk) 22:53, 31 May 2018 (UTC)

As mentioned in the pages that I linked to in the notice, some of the G7 summit members will be coming into the country through CFB Bagotville. There will be air traffic restrictions in the area throughout the weekend. --Robkelk (talk) 22:55, 31 May 2018 (UTC)

So the disruptions in Saguenay are confined to the base itself and the associated air traffic? That should probably be clarified. K7L (talk) 22:59, 31 May 2018 (UTC)

True. Done. --Robkelk (talk) 23:00, 31 May 2018 (UTC)

Thanks. K7L (talk) 23:01, 31 May 2018 (UTC)

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Dennis

Nice work on updating Dennis! Ground Zero (talk) 15:41, 30 October 2020 (UTC)

Thanks! I think it's at the point where somebody needs to actually go look at the place... --Robkelk (talk) 18:52, 30 October 2020 (UTC)

Standard section headers

Thanks for your help, as always!

Please have a look at Wikivoyage:Big city article template, though. Chicoutimi is a small city, but when we divide "Get in" by method, we use the format and expressions (such as "By plane") shown in the big city article template.

All the best,

Ikan Kekek (talk) 19:00, 11 July 2021 (UTC)

I didn't add any headers to that section of page - all I did was add a map marker. --Robkelk (talk) 19:10, 11 July 2021 (UTC)

Oh, I missed that I was looking at more than one person's edits. Sorry. Ikan Kekek (talk) 21:57, 11 July 2021 (UTC)

What to do with listings of closed establishments

Hi again, Robkelk, and thanks for updating the Iqaluit article! A quick word, though: If you know or discover that any establishment is permanently closed, please delete the listing. Listings of closed establishments are useless, so labeling a listing as "closed in 2017" just means someone else has to delete the listing.

All the best,

Ikan Kekek (talk) 00:50, 12 November 2021 (UTC)