User talk:Tinari.totoro

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Copying from Wikitravel to here

I noticed that you were adding content to both WT and WV recently. In future, please add content only to one of these websites, since WT and WV are different in copyright. Wikitravel’s copyright reserves all rights to their content, so by copying the same info here you caused a copyright violation. So make sure in future that you add different information to each site about a place. Thanks! --Comment by Selfie City (talk about my contributions) 00:51, 15 September 2018 (UTC)

To elaborate: Here is the language in Wikivoyage and Wikitravel:

While content can be legally copied from Wikitravel to Wikivoyage if attribution is provided in accordance with the CC-BY-SA license, such copying is generally discouraged due to the history of litigation between the two sites and due to the fact that having the same content on both sites can penalize Wikivoyage in search rankings (see search engine optimization for more information). Instead of copying text, consider contributing original content written in your own words.

Legally, content from Wikitravel can be used on Wikivoyage as long as the conditions of relevant copyright licenses are complied with. Internet Brands has confirmed that the content of Wikitravel is under a CC BY-SA license. However, as Internet Brands and the WMF have engaged in litigation, please discuss before moving content from Wikitravel to Wikivoyage. If you do move anything, be very careful to comply fully with the license terms regarding attribution.

Moving content from Wikivoyage to Wikitravel is not currently possible as any mention of Wikivoyage is banned on that site, precluding correct attribution.

But the short version is, use different language here than you use there, even if it's your own language. Ikan Kekek (talk) 04:44, 15 September 2018 (UTC)

But nowadays on the WT website it says “all rights reserved”. Have they perhaps changed their copyright license since Wikivoyage:Wikivoyage and Wikitravel was written? --Comment by Selfie City (talk about my contributions) 04:48, 15 September 2018 (UTC)

They're contradicting themselves. See the bottom of this random page: https://wikitravel.org/en/Ankawa Ikan Kekek (talk) 05:45, 15 September 2018 (UTC)

Yep, compare to [1]. So I think, to be on the side of caution, we shouldn't copy anything from WT in future, and perhaps we should change our Wikitravel article text.

When I contribute to Wikitravel, I typically write about different places than I do on Wikivoyage or add very different content or different amounts of it. That way there isn't even a chance of anything going wrong. And most of my edits there are related to the DOTMs and OTBPs anyway. --Comment by Selfie City (talk about my contributions) 19:26, 15 September 2018 (UTC)