Wikivoyage talk:Cooperating with OpenStreetMap
WikiVoyage map correction[edit]
- Swept in from the pub
The "go" template below shows the correct position of the new Union Station Bus Terminal on the WikiVoyage map. However, just north of the railway tracks, the WikiVoyage map shows the now closed "GO Union Bus Terminal" and the old and also now closed Union Station Bus Terminal, which both closed in December 2020. (Both were one and the same terminal.) Is there a way to erase these two old terminals from the map, and better still, label only the new location of the Union Station Bus Terminal? Thanks. TheTrolleyPole (talk) 00:43, 4 July 2021 (UTC)
- 1 Union Station Bus Terminal (GO bus terminal), 81 Bay St (interior pedestrian connection to Union Station rail & subway services). Union Station Bus Terminal serves GO Transit, Megabus, and TOK Coach buses. Like an airport, there are no predetermined bus platform assignments. Check display monitors for the bus departure zone; 10 minutes before departure, monitors will display the bus departure gate. The bus terminal moved to its new location on December 5, 2020; Maps might still indicate the older, now closed bus location; the new location is south of the railway corridor.
- @TheTrolleyPole: If this is an issue with the map itself, it's an issue with OpenStreetMap, the software Wikivoyage uses for its dynamic maps. You can create an account on OpenStreetMap (I have one) and edit similar to wiki-editing here. Once you make a change, wait a few days and you'll see our dynamic maps update automatically. --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 00:51, 4 July 2021 (UTC)
- It sounds like our marker is in the wrong spot. Slightly adjusting the lat/long numbers in the listing template should fix it (to move a marker southwards, you need a slightly smaller latitude number). WhatamIdoing (talk) 15:15, 4 July 2021 (UTC)
- @WhatamIdoing: The GO Union Bus Terminal, when I last checked, was still present on OSM, so I think s/he's referring to the dynamic map. --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 15:20, 4 July 2021 (UTC)
- (Union Station Bus Terminal — the road is labeled GO Union Bus Terminal — but according to TheTrolleyPole the two are the same.) --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 15:21, 4 July 2021 (UTC)
- If you click the red [1] button here, you'll see the map in a pop-up. The marker is north of the railroad tracks on the map, which sounds like it's the wrong spot. WhatamIdoing (talk) 16:07, 4 July 2021 (UTC)
- The red [1] button in the go-template points to south of the railway tracks. TheTrolleyPole (talk) 18:24, 4 July 2021 (UTC)
- I'm confused. Is the terminal closed entirely, or is only the northern station closed? The station, according to the marker included within this discussion, is south of the railroad tracks. The station shown to the north of the tracks is a point on the OSM. --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 16:19, 4 July 2021 (UTC)
- If you click the red [1] button here, you'll see the map in a pop-up. The marker is north of the railroad tracks on the map, which sounds like it's the wrong spot. WhatamIdoing (talk) 16:07, 4 July 2021 (UTC)
- (Union Station Bus Terminal — the road is labeled GO Union Bus Terminal — but according to TheTrolleyPole the two are the same.) --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 15:21, 4 July 2021 (UTC)
- @WhatamIdoing: The GO Union Bus Terminal, when I last checked, was still present on OSM, so I think s/he's referring to the dynamic map. --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 15:20, 4 July 2021 (UTC)
- It sounds like our marker is in the wrong spot. Slightly adjusting the lat/long numbers in the listing template should fix it (to move a marker southwards, you need a slightly smaller latitude number). WhatamIdoing (talk) 15:15, 4 July 2021 (UTC)
- @SelfieCity, WhatamIdoing:On December 5, 2020, the Union Station Bus Terminal moved from the north side of the railway tracks to its south side. (See: w:Union Station Bus Terminal) Both Google Maps and NSM still show the old bus terminal (which they shouldn't). Google Maps does show the new bus terminal. I have modified OSM to erase the name of the old bus terminal, and to fix the name of the new terminal. Before I did this, I noticed that the OSM copy of the map was different from the WikiVoyage version. Maybe someone else was trying to update OSM?TheTrolleyPole (talk) 18:20, 4 July 2021 (UTC)
- I noticed a few hours ago that it was fixed. Thanks! The Wikivoyage map might take a couple days to update. As many sites use OSM you’ll probably see other map based websites update as well. --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 19:14, 4 July 2021 (UTC)
For North American Wikivoyagers: possible WikiConference NA collaboration with OpenStreetMap US[edit]
- Swept in from the pub
A couple of weeks ago Peter Meyer from Wikimedia DC, Richard Kinipel from Wikimedia NYC, & myself (from Cascadia Wikimedians) met with Maggie Cawley, Executive Director with OpenStreetMap US. We discussed the possibility of doing WikiConference North America/2022 on the days after FedGeoDay on Thursday, November 3, 2022. Please note this is very preliminary & that WikiConference NA 2022 may occur on different dates altogether.
Wikivoyage & Openstreetmap seem to be a natural fit. Indeed, there are pages on how to cooperate between the two projects at Wikivoyage:Cooperating with OpenStreetMap & openstreetmap:Collaboration with Wikivoyage. Minh Nguyễn (Mxn) is president of OpenStreetMap US & has edited both on English & Vietnamese Wikivoyage as well has extensively editing in other Wikimedia projects.
In Italy, the Wikimedia & OpenStreetMap chapter is the one & same organization: wmit:Coordinatori.
I wanted to let folks here know about the possibility. I will add a link to the next WikiConference NA planning meeting when we know, for any here who might be interested. Peaceray (talk) 19:22, 4 June 2022 (UTC)