Talk:Overland travel between Melbourne and Adelaide
- Could you possibly let us see what these will look like as banners? At least on my screen, they're not showing in the right dimensions when I click on them twice. (Also, small thing: We haven't been using the "Draft" heading on articles here; the usual procedure is either to start drafts in your Sandbox and then move them to articlespace or just start the article and develop it under the same name.) Ikan Kekek (talk) 10:05, 20 March 2021 (UTC)
- I'm inclined to support the current banner. With regards to draftspace vs userspace vs mainspace, I'll defer to "Wikivoyage doesn't do draftspace", but will note it's a bit awkward to decide whose userspace a collaborative article goes into. I also might want to rename the article at some point, as I'm envisioning this as potentially a general overland-travel article including non-car overland routes. Vaticidalprophet (talk) 10:44, 20 March 2021 (UTC)
- It's not a problem to rename articles. It might reassure you to consider all articles on this site works in progress, which is true. No article is likely to ever be complete for all time. That said, it's not a problem, either, for someone to start a draft in their sandbox and invite others to also help edit there. SHB2000 and Vaticidalprophet: About pagebanners, please read Wikivoyage:Banner Expedition#Image size and following, if you have not already done so. Ikan Kekek (talk) 10:49, 20 March 2021 (UTC)
- It has Western Hwy on it, not Western Fwy. SHB2000 (talk) 22:04, 20 March 2021 (UTC)
- I was thinking if we could make a banner of a scenic location along the coastal route. Sure, you can go the most direct route that takes 8 hours, but going along the coast is way more scenic and more attractive to travellers. I have personally done two route; the Princes Highway, and the coastal route via the Coorong, the Limestone Coast and the Great Ocean Road. Perhaps a banner of some of the coastal cliffs along the Limestone Coast would be nice for this itinerary. The dog2 (talk) 21:43, 28 March 2021 (UTC)
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@Ground Zero: The reason the article doesn't yet mention a driving time is that it's significantly different for each route. (And while "8 hours" is often quoted in Wikivoyage for the Dukes/Western route, my experience is that 10 is a more realistic minimum.) Vaticidalprophet (talk) 13:56, 20 March 2021 (UTC)
- So what would be useful is to give approximate driving times for each of the routes. Driving times on Google maps are expressed as driving time-only, so that's why I specified for the Dukes/Western route "over 8 hours without stops". As the local expert, it would great if you could elaborate on that.
- I want to drive that route some day. When I see Google maps say "8 hours", I then factor in stops for photos, walks, lunch, and know that I won't drive that in a day, but that we vary depending on how the reader likes to travel. We can't factor in those differences, but we can help by providing an estimate of the driving time on the road.
- The map only shows the Dukes/Western route so far, so I figured that that would be a good place to start. As the article is developed, I really think that minimum driving times for other routes are important to include. Ground Zero (talk) 14:20, 20 March 2021 (UTC)
Isn't the distance around 680km?
- Google maps says 726 km, which I assume is CBD to CBD. Maybe 680 km is city border to city border? But if you think it is more accurate, change it. Ground Zero (talk) 04:23, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
- The sign pictured is in Hopetoun Park, which is about 50km out of Melbourne (and I think this may also explain your Highway vs Freeway nitpick). Vaticidalprophet (talk) 05:42, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
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Here's a map of the scenic route.