Talk:Aral Sea

What does "Making food is from the side of travelers" (in the "Get In" section) refer to? Thanks, (WT-en) JYolkowski 22:04, 7 July 2008 (EDT)

Hmm, that is a very interesting sentence construction ;) I'm pretty sure that means travelers cook there own food, although drivers provide the pots. --(WT-en) Peter ^Talk 00:10, 8 July 2008 (EDT)

Makes sense to me, I'll update that sentence. (WT-en) JYolkowski 21:01, 10 July 2008 (EDT)

Oh, oops, I was in a hurry so accidentally made a direct translation from Lithuanian :) thanks for editing

Merge?

According to our "what is an article?" policy, we don't do bodies of water. I propose we merge this article into the nearby city of Aral. Selfie City (talk) 01:56, 18 August 2018 (UTC)

This isn't mainly a body water but an attraction for people who want to see an environmental disaster, and you can't see all of it right near the city of Aral, so I'm a bit skeptical on a merge, but I'm willing to hear out an argument. What would the listing look like in Aral, if it's moved there? Ikan Kekek (talk) 04:02, 18 August 2018 (UTC)

I would assume something like this:

• Aral Sea (south of Aral). Once one of the largest lakes in the world, the lake has retreated over the years and now much of its former lake bed is desert. The remnants of the Aral Sea are now two separate lakes, with the one near Aral surviving better than the once much larger one to the south in Uzbekistan.

Also, we could make this a listing in Central Asia or something of that nature. Selfie City (talk) 15:16, 18 August 2018 (UTC)

Like Ikan just said, the region that used to be a lake is not just next to Aral, but covers a much larger area. I'd either move the information to Central Asia or to both Northern Uzbekistan and Kazakh Desert. --ϒpsilon (talk) 15:33, 18 August 2018 (UTC)

Agreed. Selfie City (talk) 15:40, 18 August 2018 (UTC)

By the way, another similar article is Pyramid Lake, which really is just a lake. In my opinion, definitely should be deleted, with some merging. Selfie City (talk) 15:49, 18 August 2018 (UTC)

Before taking a final decision on this, Ikan Kekek, what's your point of view with the current state of this article and this discussion? Selfie City (talk) 22:10, 19 August 2018 (UTC)

First, on Pyramid Lake, the "See" section demonstrates that the article isn't only about water. I would suggest not deleting that article. Second, on this article: Since it's divided between two republics, it does make sense to breadcrumb it to Central Asia, but I wouldn't support deletion and made the point about why above. Ikan Kekek (talk) 06:40, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘What if we made these articles extraregion articles? Selfie City (talk) 14:16, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

This one could be, sure. I guess I don't agree with the notion that a body of water can't have its own article, and I don't think WV:Bodies of water clearly states that, either. Ikan Kekek (talk) 18:40, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

I think, however, we should clearly state in one of our policy pages that articles such as this one are permitted. --- Selfie City (talk | contributions) 18:42, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

Also, just for the record, I have made the change to extraregion by changing the template at the bottom of the article. --- Selfie City (talk | contributions) 18:44, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

As I see it, the lake (or rather what's left of it) is the destinations here, for which the travellers hit the road, through miles and miles of desert. All of the proposals seem problematic in some way:

• Merge with Aral — Aral is only one of the main approaches to the lake, and probably the less popular one.
• Convert to a listing at Central Asia, Northern Uzbekistan and Kazakh Desert — Central Asia is a huge region, and only a fraction of travellers to it would be interested in the Aral Sea. Northern Uzbekistan and Kazakh Desert may be more relevant, but why divide or duplicate the information in two seperate articles? Besides, we generally don't do listings in region articles.
• Convert to an extra region — well, the Aral Sea is not a region overlapping with hierarchical regions and there are no communities or regions that could be listed under it.

So, my take on this would be, "if it ain't broke, don't fix it." Being a destination in itself as it is, the Aral Sea could be an exception to our bodies of water guideline. Vidimian (talk) 19:39, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

I already turned this into an extraregion article, and while that might not be the perfect solution, it makes more sense than calling the area a park. And is the Aral Sea really a destination in itself? Do many tourists actually visit it? I doubt whether all the sections of this article will ever have content. I know that normally we don't delete real places, but maybe in this situation something along those lines is the best thing to do. --- Selfie City (talk | contributions) 21:50, 20 August 2018 (UTC)