Talk:Austro-Hungarian Empire
Add topicLviv
[edit]Lviv is described as the "largest Ukrainian city", but Galicia had been part of Poland before Austria occupied it, and Lviv was awarded to the the Ukrainian SSR only after World War II. So I think this is a mistaken description but await your thoughts before editing it. Ikan Kekek (talk) 07:28, 2 September 2015 (UTC)
Clarification needed
[edit]This sentence, in Get around, needs rewriting:
- "[ÖBB] is slowly but surely acquiring an amount of international connections (some of them in cooperation with neighboring railways) befitting of a much larger railroad and largely focused on the k.u.k. lands, Germany and Switzerland."
What does "a larger railroad" mean in this context? What are "k.y.k." lands?
--LPfi (talk) 06:35, 3 October 2018 (UTC)
- "k.u.k." means "kaiserlich und königlich" and is a common shorthand for Austria Hungary. And ÖBB running trains from Hamburg to Italy despite Autria being a teeny tiny country makes it appear as if ÖBB were doing stuff more apt for a much bigger railroad. Hobbitschuster (talk) 15:31, 3 October 2018 (UTC)
- Could you perhaps change the wording in the article as to reflect this. I do not think we can suppose readers knowing or inferring it from the current wording. --LPfi (talk) 19:39, 3 October 2018 (UTC)
- Propose a wording, please. Hobbitschuster (talk) 19:43, 3 October 2018 (UTC)
- I made a try. What do you think? --LPfi (talk) 06:29, 4 October 2018 (UTC)
Another problem (in Understand): "The conflict evolved to the Thirty Years' War, in which the Holy Roman Emperor lost all significant power outside Austria." I suppose "Austria" here means the empire proper, i.e. except Spain & co, not today's Austria. I do not know how large the Austria that remained at that point was, so I am unable to rephrase sensibly, but I suppose the current wording is misleading. --LPfi (talk) 06:33, 4 October 2018 (UTC)
- So the Holy Roman Empire was a very complicated setup, but as a first approximation, imagine that the US President is elected for life and he is always one of the state governors. And let's say a tradition developed that the governor of Texas always gets the nod. Now for various reasons, the nominal "federal" power basically ceased to have any meaning after the Thirty Years War. So in our analogy, the President would still nominally head the entire United States, but their true power would be their position as governor of Texas and outside of Texas their word would not be worth much. At any rate "Austria" in this sense actually has "holes" compared to what we would consider "Austria" today, like this. On the other hand, Bohemia would have been considered if not a part of "Austria" certainly a part of the domains of the Habsburg within the HRE (As opposed to their possessions outside the HRE) Hobbitschuster (talk) 15:28, 4 October 2018 (UTC)
- I understand it is complicated, and that is one reason I do not want to reword "Austria" myself. The point is there are regions such as Bohemia (and Hungary?), which are not covered by the common understanding of "Austria". I think "Austria" in this context has to be explained, or replaced with some other characterization. We are not writing for those who know by themselves how to interpret names in the right way. --LPfi (talk) 15:40, 4 October 2018 (UTC)
- The Austro-Hungarian Ausgleich postdates the HRE by some 60 years. I'm not sure many contemporaries would've known where this "Hungary" thing was supposed to be... Hobbitschuster (talk) 15:50, 4 October 2018 (UTC)
"The house of Habsburg ascended the throne of Austria in 1526"
[edit]Huh? Who was that, then? Hobbitschuster (talk) 14:09, 26 October 2018 (UTC)
Former name for Tianjin
[edit]Or former Romanized spelling, anyway. In English, it was Tientsin. But I guess Tiencsin was the spelling in German and Hungarian, so should we go with that in this article? Ikan Kekek (talk) 16:26, 11 February 2022 (UTC)