Talk:Brewarrina
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This article has Star potential. It's well written with great information. However, for Star status it needs both to be entirely complete and to exactly match the manual of style. If you see how it can be improved, please plunge forward or point it out on the talk page. |
Star nom discussion
[edit]In my opinion, this article is looking better than Menzies and Innamincka, with all three being limited in sees and dos. It's probably one of our best Aussie outback articles, and I ain't seeing anything missing, although I often miss things quite easily. Any feedback would be greatly appreciated! SHB2000 (talk | contribs | en.wikipedia) 06:51, 24 June 2021 (UTC)
- My feedback would be to slow down on these nominations. Traditionally, we've only had maybe four or five in a whole year. It would be fine if they were all getting consistent levels of interest, but with Sydney Harbour and now Norfolk Island you've started to see "Star nomination fatigue" set in with fewer participants commenting less frequently. I think this drop-off in interest that you can see is inevitable with any process that is time- and energy-consuming; people need time to recharge, and space to pursue their other projects on Wikivoyage.
- Personally, the last thing I want to do right now after the successful nomination for Stratford and the slushed one for Eastleigh (which in particular took a large amount of time and attention of many users, only for the main author to inexplicably walk away when the finish line was in sight), and before that Caldas da Rainha, is wade in to another two nominations. Others may feel differently, of course, but I don't want to participate on this page at all for at least the next three months.--ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 09:04, 24 June 2021 (UTC)
- I'll preface this by saying that I have no idea about how things are in the Australian outback, nor do I have any experience with star nominations at WV. So please excuse me if my comments are off the mark. But since you asked for it, here's my somewhat naive feedback:
- The very long introductory sentence could be split up into an introductory paragraph.
- The history section briefly mentions the "long Indigenous Australian history" and then moves on to give a detailed account of what happened after the western settlers planted themselves in the area — that feels a bit unbalanced to me. Maybe it's not a good idea to claim that Brewarrina has an indigenous history when the town itself didn't exist before the westerners arrived? Maybe better write something about the area having a long indigenous history?
- The history section feels overly detailed with lots of dates and numbers that do not seem to be relevant nor particularly interesting to the average traveller. An then the records abruptly stop in the late 1980s, as if nothing worth noting had happened since then.
- Maybe add one or two more images that capture the general feeling of being in Brewarrina?
- Hope that helps, --El Grafo (talk) 09:14, 24 June 2021 (UTC)
- @El Grafo: Thanks for the feedback. For your second point, while we know that it's rich in culture and there was significant Aboriginal history, we don't know much about it, and having studied about Aboriginal history before, there's been a lot of things damaged by European settlement (such as getting arrested for speaking your own native language which is damaging the culture, or doing traditional meetups), so we don't know too much of what's happened in this area. Also, the town didn't exist before westerners arrived, but it was a meetup spot for the Kamilaroi people. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | en.wikipedia) 13:03, 24 June 2021 (UTC)
- On a quick read this looks like a good usable article, that is maybe approaching guide status. Few of the listings have much of a description, and the two photos don't give any feel for the place. What do you see at the fish traps - are they regularly used by locals?, can visitors use them to catch dinner? The comparison with Stonehenge for the museum is ridiculous. Come back in 2023 when others might be able to visit, and to give the article time to mature with other's edits. AlasdairW (talk) 23:41, 24 June 2021 (UTC)
Outcome: slushed. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 08:38, 5 November 2021 (UTC)