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I just removed blatant pimping under the Cappadocia section. It seemed like a pretty clear violation of the Project:Don't tout guideline. (WT-en) Eric 18:33, 2 November 2008 (EST)

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Niğde

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This substantial city has no page; Kemerhisar village 22 km south has a stub outline for its Roman waterworks but that's all. I therefore propose re-naming and expanding that page as Niğde. Grahamsands (talk) 08:51, 27 December 2022 (UTC)Reply

Sounds sensible. Vidimian (talk) 10:11, 27 December 2022 (UTC)Reply

Split into a couple of regions?

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Our Central Anatolia article covers a large part of Turkey, and there are also quite many cities listed. Is there any smart way to to split the region into maybe 2-3 regions? Ypsilon (talk) 14:56, 19 September 2023 (UTC)Reply

I was thinking about this for a long time; thanks for bringing it up.
I propose to subdivide the area into three subregions, internally grouped due to their shared geographical, historical, tourism, and transportation features:
  • Western Anatolia: Eskişehir, Kütahya, and Afyonkarahisar provinces; 4 cities plus one potential article due to a recent UNESCO World Heritage inscription, 2 ODs but only one of them is linked. This is the western reaches of the region; practically the core of ancient w:Phrygia, so there is a lot of Phrygian ruins. The area has a relatively wider tree cover (but given this is the Anatolian plateau, that's not saying much). All articles describe places with old towns of sorts.
A larger version of this region was agreed to be made a top-level region of Turkey in a discussion back in 2013, but it hasn't been implemented so far. If we ever decide to reincarnate that consensus one day, this proposed article may work as a base.
  • North Central Anatolia: Ankara, Çankırı, Kırıkkale, Yozgat, and Sivas provinces; 5 cities plus another potential article for a recently inscribed World Heritage site, 2 ODs but one of them redirects to one of the city articles. Rolling steppes in the northern third of the region. Includes three capitals (two ancient, one modern) and a bit of medieval Seljuk heritage and early republican history.
  • South Central Anatolia: Konya, Karaman, Aksaray, Niğde, Kırşehir, Nevşehir, and Kayseri provinces; 8 cities (one of them unlinked), 2 ODs (one of them is sort of a subregion with towns under it). Basically "Greater Konya" + "Greater Cappadocia", so this is the best-travelled part of the region. The southern third is an even drier area verging on desert in places but this affords it a variety of interesting landscapes such as Salt Lake, Lake Meke, and Cappadocia. Most of the area has medieval heritage, Byzantine and Seljuk.
Any ideas? Vidimian (talk) 22:56, 20 September 2023 (UTC)Reply
Yes, it was actually when I looked for which articles this year's new world heritage sites that UNESCO is deciding on this week belong in (there may be still some more to come, after that I'll start adding info systematically to articles), that got looking at the Central Anatolia article. I think there will be three new articles for Central Anatolia needed (see User:Ypsilon/Laboratory). --Ypsilon (talk) 04:59, 21 September 2023 (UTC)Reply
Yes, we will need three new articles overall for the new World Heritage sites in Turkey, unless other new sites are forthcoming these days.
  • Polatlı for Gordion, which would be breadcrumbed to the proposed North Central Anatolia subregion above. I'd prefer this article named Polatlı rather than Yassıhüyük. I passed through Yassıhüyük about a month ago (although unfortunately I was in a rush so didn't stop to look around), and it seemed like a small village with few points of interest to mention (a single restaurant and a liquor store) obviously other than the archaeological site, a related museum, and numerous ancient burial mounds in the outskirts. Naming the article after Polatlı, the district capital, would widen its scope to also encompass the war memorials in and around Polatlı. Additionally, Polatlı has a significant agricultural industry, so that way the article may also be useful for business travellers. Yassıhüyük/Yassihuyuk and Gordion could redirect to it.
  • Sivrihisar for the Sivrihisar Grand Mosque, which would be breadcrumbed to Western Anatolia as proposed above.
  • Beyşehir for Eşrefoğlu Mosque, but this should be breadcrumbed to the Lakes District rather than Central Anatolia or any potential subregions beneath it.
The other sites are already mentioned in the articles linked at your laboratory. Vidimian (talk) 23:42, 21 September 2023 (UTC)Reply
Subregions Yes Done. As I mentioned earlier, I'd like to move Gordion to Polatlı in the near future; Gordion isn't a huge site and it may not be viable as a stand-alone article. Vidimian (talk) 17:00, 24 September 2023 (UTC)Reply