Talk:Military and police ceremonies

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Let's discuss what this should because these can be performed by the police too, and in many countries, the regular police are not part of the military. I know countries like France and China have army units that perform policing duties in parallel with the civilian police, but in Singapore, the military police does not have jurisdiction outside military bases except when it comes to military personnel. But nevertheless, the civilian police still perform military-style drill and mounts a contingent alongside the military whenever there is a guard of honour.

And I believe that Canada's RCMP is not part of the military either. I believe that most Commonwealth countries consider the regular police to be civilians and not part of the military. Sure, sometimes their duties overlap; in Singapore, both the army and the police have special counter-terrorism units, but they are still considered separate. The dog2 (talk) 16:10, 24 September 2022 (UTC)

Not being a native English speaker, I understood the term "armed forces" to include the police and military. With further research, it does not seem to be the case. Hopefully we can find an inclusive term. /Yvwv (talk) 01:46, 25 September 2022 (UTC)

Which is why I called it "Military and police ceremonies". Because the police are usually not part of the military. "Armed forces" means the military. The dog2 (talk) 13:00, 25 September 2022 (UTC)

I thought the same too; I've never heard the term "armed forces" to include the police. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta) 13:10, 25 September 2022 (UTC)

I stand corrected. /Yvwv (talk) 13:13, 25 September 2022 (UTC)

I'll move it back then. The confusion may have arisen from the fact that the French National Gendarmerie and the Chinese People's Armed Police are military units that do policing too. But both France and China have a separate civilian police that does day to day policing, and the Gendarmerie are mainly there to supplement the civilian police when required. In most Commonwealth countries, the military police have no jurisdiction beyond military matters. The dog2 (talk) 13:27, 25 September 2022 (UTC)

Nevermind. I see it has been moved back. The dog2 (talk) 13:28, 25 September 2022 (UTC)