Talk:Music in Britain and Ireland

The name of this article

There are two things 'wrong' with the name, that I can see. Firstly, "on" seems a strange choice of preposition, where "in" would be more appropriate. Secondly, Wikivoyage tends to prefer the use of the politically-neutral "Britain and Ireland" than "British Isles". I personally don't care about this dispute, as in my view "British Isles" is a geographic term with no political implications, but for the sake of consistency with the rest of the project, shouldn't this page be moved to Music in Britain and Ireland? --ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 17:33, 30 November 2016 (UTC)

I don't care greatly, either, but sure. Ikan Kekek (talk) 21:32, 30 November 2016 (UTC)

I have no objection. /Yvwv (talk) 22:29, 30 November 2016 (UTC)

"Music in Britain and Ireland" sounds better and will help anybody searching for Music in Ireland, so moving it from "Music on the British Isles" is good. AlasdairW (talk) 23:59, 30 November 2016 (UTC)

Or split it into 2 separate articles. Why lump 2 different countries together? Ireland has a distinct culture, with its own music traditions. Seems like a token mention of the Dublin Concert Hall (and Westlife are from Sligo anyway). And it is a rather politically biased page banner. --Fuaran buidhe (talk) 01:02, 10 December 2016 (UTC)

You are 100% right about the banner, I hadn't even noticed that. It should be changed to something less in-your-face British, and we should really steer away from overt nationalism of any sort on a site like Wikivoyage, in my view. Other than that, I have no strong opinion either way about splitting or keeping as one article.

Remember, you are entirely free to add content if you feel Ireland is underrepresented here or anywhere else. Best, ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 02:33, 10 December 2016 (UTC)

Alternate banner

Current banner

Suggested banner

As the current banner can be perceived as too pro-UK, here is an alternative. Could also be used for Glastonbury, which has no banner today. /Yvwv (talk) 10:28, 21 July 2017 (UTC)

English choral tradition

@Ikan Kekek: Do you by any chance know any details on what makes it unique? How does it differ from the choral traditions of continental Europe? As you know, Bach's passions are also known for their chorales, and most Catholic Mass settings by the likes of Mozart and Haydn feature choral singing too. And likewise, Russian composers like Tchaikovsky and Rachmaninoff feature choral singing in their sacred music. But I've read something vaguely about how Handel's English oratorios bring out the best in the English choral tradition. One thing I've certainly noticed is that Italian oratorios, including Handel's La resurrezione usually do not feature choruses and only feature ensembles by the soloists at the end much like a Baroque opera. But Vivaldi's Juditha Triumphans, which is in Latin, does feature choruses. The dog2 (talk) 03:49, 29 April 2023 (UTC)